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  1. #1 Telekinesis, power armor, and foresight? 
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    Hello. New here but there are some things i want in life. First, telekinesis, the ability to move objects with your mind. Now, whether this is possible or not is not the question. The question is, if it is, how do i achieve it? If its not, how do i create a device that can move objects without physically contacting them?

    Second, power armor. not a new idea but typically expensive. I want something basic. not iron man level sophisticated but i would like something that is stab and bullet proof. I think this can be achieved by thick carbon steel and some electronics that helps move it. Unfortunately, steel armor went out of style before the achievement of advanced electronics and possibly before advanced metals. Again, question, how do i achieve?

    Third is a little more tough to swallow. I do believe telekinesis is possible and other psychic abilities. One of these, i seem to have noticed, is intuition. just knowing what to do and how to do it to get the outcome you want, at all times. Some people would go further than my belief and call it the ability to see the future. I'm open minded but thats not what I'm talking about. Is there any scientific research on how to better utilize intuition/foresight?

    I'm no scientist but i can learn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    Hello. New here but there are some things i want in life. First, telekinesis, the ability to move objects with your mind. Now, whether this is possible or not is not the question.
    It's not.

    If its not, how do i create a device that can move objects without physically contacting them?
    You could try blowing on them. Very hard.

    Second, power armor. not a new idea but typically expensive. I want something basic. not iron man level sophisticated but i would like something that is stab and bullet proof. I think this can be achieved by thick carbon steel and some electronics that helps move it. Unfortunately, steel armor went out of style before the achievement of advanced electronics and possibly before advanced metals. Again, question, how do i achieve?
    Unless you have:
    A) a very large budget,
    B) an excellent materials lab,
    C) a damned good machine shop and,
    D) access to advanced electronics and, possibly, hydraulics
    you can't.
    Try googling to see just how far the US has got with regard to this, and then compare your resources against, say, DARPA's.

    Steel armour went out of style because it became less effective against newer weapons.
    For example you say "bullet proof". What level of protection are you looking at? What calibre bullet at what velocity? To defeat ball rounds or AP rounds 1?
    The better the protection the heavier the suit will be, requiring more power, requiring a larger power pack, which in turn will increase the weight which will require more power...

    I do believe telekinesis is possible and other psychic abilities.
    Why?
    There has, to date, been NO credible evidence for the existence of these presented at all.

    One of these, i seem to have noticed, is intuition.
    What makes you think intuition is a psychic ability?

    just knowing what to do and how to do it to get the outcome you want, at all times.
    While we all have intuition to varying degrees no one has it to the extent of getting a desired outcome at all times.


    1 For example (and going from memory - but if you really need a more accurate figure I could calculate one) the SS109 AP round, 5.56mm, fired from a typical NATO standard assault weapon (SA80/ M16/ Steyr AUG...) will go through at least 15mm of armour at ~50 metres. How much power will be required to move a suit that's 15mm or more thick?


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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    Hello. New here but there are some things i want in life. First, telekinesis, the ability to move objects with your mind. Now, whether this is possible or not is not the question. The question is, if it is, how do i achieve it? I
    Of course the question of whether it is possible is relevant. What is the point of trying to do something impossible. (Hint: it's impossible.)

    f its not, how do i create a device that can move objects without physically contacting them?
    If the objects are sufficiently small: Optical tweezers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Otherwise... really big magnets?

    I do believe telekinesis is possible and other psychic abilities.
    I can't imagine why.

    One of these, i seem to have noticed, is intuition. just knowing what to do and how to do it to get the outcome you want, at all times. Some people would go further than my belief and call it the ability to see the future. I'm open minded but thats not what I'm talking about. Is there any scientific research on how to better utilize intuition/foresight?
    There are probably lots of crap self-help books on exploiting intuition. I'm sure there is some psychological research on it, as well. It is the sort of thing Daniel Kahneman has looked at. It isn't infallible; in fact it can often positively mislead. And it isn't "psychic" (nothing is). And it certainly isn't telling the future.

    I'm no scientist but i can learn.
    Let's hope so. For a start, stop relying on wishful thinking and look at the evidence.
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    I don't want to sound stupid, but I still wish for a device that can move objects without physical contact. I really would like to know theories or how to make one of these. It might not be easy but i still believe it can be done.

    Armor- I know it'll sound ridicoulous or like I'm ripping iron man off, but I've always thought an advanced suit of armor in the form of protection. I'm trying to find the right grade of metal that is bullet proof and with some things i honestly have no idea about it, i believe it is possible. caliber of bullet and velocity, the max a pistol can do. just something a regular everyday person can get at any time and usually has. Power- exactly, but I'm not too extremely worried about the powering right now. if all else fails, solar powered.

    Telekinesis- No one believes me but I've been able to accidentally move certain things over the years. Freaked me out when my entire ramen bowl suddenly starts scratching across the counter. Trust me, i looked for a possiblity. magnets, waves, anything. Can't find one. Either way, not important. It gave me the goal and want to move objects with my mind. if that requires a few peices of metal, rare material and electronics, so be it.

    Intuition- I know this one is far fetched, hard to believe and thats okay. I'm just asking for research or actual science on it. And again, i have a not so great answer. I seem to know when some things will happen. or what i should do, to get what i want, even if there is no info provided. I'm not claiming magic or that I'm psychic, just that from personal experience and having an open mind, it has led me to believe its more than guessing or random chance. So, i want to do more research into it.

    Also, i use the term psychic loosely.
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    I don't want to sound stupid, but I still wish for a device that can move objects without physical contact
    What you want is at odds with what is.

    Wish away.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
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    Well alex, nothing is totally impossible. Sure, we can't just jump and suddenly were flying but we invented airplanes, hang gliders, jetpacks (they were very shortlived. and provided very little lift) and other things of the sort. I probably can't just say "move" and things move, but i might be able to invent a device that in some way causes the effect i want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    Armor- I know it'll sound ridicoulous or like I'm ripping iron man off, but I've always thought an advanced suit of armor in the form of protection. I'm trying to find the right grade of metal that is bullet proof and with some things i honestly have no idea about it, i believe it is possible. caliber of bullet and velocity, the max a pistol can do. just something a regular everyday person can get at any time and usually has. Power- exactly, but I'm not too extremely worried about the powering right now. if all else fails, solar powered.
    You do realise that people like DARPA put billions of dollars into researching this sort of thing? If this is really what you want to do, go to university, get a good degree in engineering or physics, and get a job at a defence contractor working on such things. You are not really going to compete in your garage.

    Telekinesis- No one believes me but I've been able to accidentally move certain things over the years. Freaked me out when my entire ramen bowl suddenly starts scratching across the counter.
    If you can do this, then a million dollar prize awaits....

    Trust me, i looked for a possiblity. magnets, waves, anything.
    Given your lack of critical thinking skills ... I don't think I can trust your judgement.

    Intuition- I know this one is far fetched, hard to believe and thats okay. I'm just asking for research or actual science on it.
    Read the book I linked to. (There may be others, but I found that interesting)

    I seem to know when some things will happen.
    Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Basically, you remember the times you were right and forget the times you were wrong. The scientific method is designed to remove this sort of bias.

    just that from personal experience and having an open mind
    Having an open mind is close to being gullible. If you are interested in science you need to develop some scepticism and critical thinking skills.

    it has led me to believe its more than guessing or random chance. So, i want to do more research into it.
    You could start here: Bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    Armor- I know it'll sound ridicoulous or like I'm ripping iron man off, but I've always thought an advanced suit of armor in the form of protection. I'm trying to find the right grade of metal that is bullet proof and with some things i honestly have no idea about it, i believe it is possible.
    As a suit it's not possible.
    Since you admit it involves things you "have no idea about" what makes you think it's possible?

    caliber of bullet and velocity, the max a pistol can do.
    Again, when you say "the max a pistol can do" you're still leaving it very open.
    Take a look at the thickness & weight of Kevlar required for varying standards of protection. Then extrapolate that to an entire suit.

    Power- exactly, but I'm not too extremely worried about the powering right now. if all else fails, solar powered.
    Solar powered?
    You're planning on carrying a square km or so of solar panels?

    Telekinesis- No one believes me but I've been able to accidentally move certain things over the years. Freaked me out when my entire ramen bowl suddenly starts scratching across the counter.
    You're right: we don't believe you.
    Alternatively it may be possible that some entirely explicable phenomenon caused the movement that coincidentally occurred while you thought it was you doing it.

    It gave me the goal and want to move objects with my mind.
    If the mind were capable of generating enough power to move objects at a distance without physical contact it would boil your brain from the heat generated in so doing.

    if that requires a few peices of metal, rare material and electronics, so be it.
    Your best option is to get Harry Potter's magic wand, have a word with your fairy godmother or Glenda the Good Witch next time she's in town.

    I seem to know when some things will happen. or what i should do, to get what i want, even if there is no info provided. I'm not claiming magic or that I'm psychic, just that from personal experience and having an open mind, it has led me to believe its more than guessing or random chance. So, i want to do more research into it.
    Ah okay.
    Research topic: list EVERY time you want something/ get a feeling that something will happen and also list every time you're right.
    Currently you seem to be extremely selective - counting only the occasions when you're correct and ignoring the times you're wrong.

    Also, i use the term psychic loosely.
    Don't worry about it.
    There's nothing wrong in using an entirely meaningless term "loosely".
    Bullshit remains bullshit, regardless of how much or how little rigour is applied to discussing it.
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    strange- You guys seem a bit harsh, to be honest. But, I won't deny possibilities. I don't know where my critical thinking got called into question simply because i believed something i had never researched and asked for more research on, was potentially possible. But, yes, darpa does research this sort of thing and put lots of money, etc. I still believe that i could at the very least get ahold of metal that can be pierced by bullets. and thats a start. Skepticism is good by the way, I never asked to be believed, just for help and research which you have provided a bit of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    Well alex, nothing is totally impossible.
    That would be incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    strange- You guys seem a bit harsh, to be honest.
    Sorry, but this is a science forum. Not science fiction.
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    I don't know where my critical thinking got called into question simply because i believed something i had never researched
    Believing in something you know nothing about demonstrates a total lack of critical thinking.
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    donald duck- Because of the basic principle that electronics or even hydraulics or pnematics is cabable of moving heavy things. i believe the key problem with a suit of armor is weight at a certain point. sure, you can just thicken anything till its bullet proof but finding a grade of metal thats strong, preferably thin but the main problem is weight, all you'd have to do is use a system of lifting that armor. which i know electronics can do. hell, i'm not asking for the most sophisticated peice of machinery. Also, yes, i will have to research more with kevlar compared to this. the telekinesis thing, that'd be great. honestly, that would be hreat. because that would mean i could find out what it was and cause it to occur again and possibly figure out a real way to do what i want. Solar power is just a funny idea. I might be able to concentrate it or something ridicoulous but it probably wouldn't move much. "with my mind" also means, figure out a way to cause said interaction. also with the intuition thing, hell, i won't lie that it could be bias. Also, you also seem to be a bit harsh.

    and yes strange but to deny completly the possibilty of moving an object without physical interaction and calling my guesses, not even theories, bullshit, is a little harsh. But oh well, as long as you guys are helping me achieve my wants and goals, thats all that matters. I will figure out a way to do this. Thats certain.

    alex, if you read all of that message i specifically say "potentially possible" not "100% yes" I'm not even saying 1%. I'm saying i don't know and i want to know. I want to use science to achieve my goals in some form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    dand yes strange but to deny completly the possibilty of moving an object without physical interaction and calling my guesses, not even theories, bullshit, is a little harsh.
    I gave you two suggestions and never called your ideas bullshit. Naive, maybe. But if you are willing to get an education, then that can be addresses. I assume you are, what, 14 or 16? If so, start planning your course of university study to achieve what you want.
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    alex, if you read all of that message i specifically say "potentially possible" not "100% yes"
    No critical thinking, no education, and I'd guess you're a teenager, early high school..
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    dand yes strange but to deny completly the possibilty of moving an object without physical interaction and calling my guesses, not even theories, bullshit, is a little harsh.
    I gave you two suggestions and never called your ideas bullshit. Naive, maybe. But if you are willing to get an education, then that can be addresses. I assume you are, what, 14 or 16? If so, start planning your course of university study to achieve what you want.
    i was referring to all of you guys. not just you. also, to alex down there, how is saying "its possible" the same as having no critical thinking? I was never proven wrong or told it wasn't possible. until now. I'm trying to learn.
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    Any more advice on how to achieve the movement of objects without physical contact, armor that can block bullets or more research on intuition would be greatly appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    donald duck
    That would actually be Daffy.

    Because of the basic principle that electronics or even hydraulics or pnematics is cabable of moving heavy things.
    Whatever you do, don't stop learning: electronics don't move anything. Electronics is a form of control.

    i believe the key problem with a suit of armor is weight at a certain point. sure, you can just thicken anything till its bullet proof but finding a grade of metal thats strong, preferably thin but the main problem is weight
    Agreed.
    And the weight required to stop a bullet is easily calculable.
    Making a suit that is overall bullet proof means that it's too heavy to move in.

    which i know electronics can do.
    Electronics does not move anything.

    hell, i'm not asking for the most sophisticated peice of machinery.
    Er, actually you really are.
    You need feedback sensors to detect when the occupant is trying to move that will then initiate movement in the suit (via the hydraulics or pneumatics) without then moving so much that it's "pulling" the occupant.
    I.e. a VERY sophisticated piece of machinery.

    the telekinesis thing, that'd be great. honestly, that would be hreat. because that would mean i could find out what it was and cause it to occur again and possibly figure out a real way to do what i want.
    Right... and if it turned out to be a heavy truck in the road outside causing vibrations that would help you... how?

    Solar power is just a funny idea.
    In other words you haven't actually given it any thought beyond "wouldn't it be neat if...?".

    Also, you also seem to be a bit harsh.
    That could be because I've spent so much of life genuinely working to turn ideas into reality and I know that it takes more than ignorance and wishful thinking. Which is all you have so far.

    and yes strange but to deny completly the possibilty of moving an object without physical interaction and calling my guesses, not even theories, bullshit, is a little harsh.
    You're using the wrong word. Instead of "harsh" you should have written "factual" or "realistic".

    I will figure out a way to do this. Thats certain.
    Aaaand back to wishful thinking and ignorance again.

    I want to use science to achieve my goals in some form.
    Then I suggest that you learn science, instead of simply insisting that you're "sure you can do it".
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    daffy, man, i know theres easier ways to say that. I never denied i was ignorant. i just denied i was stupid. I fully admit i am unknowledgeable. Maybe i do have too little science and too much wishful thinking, but hell, its better than having only science and no wishful thinking. Whats the point of knowing so much if you don't want something from it? I want 2 things. I will learn what is neccesary to achieve them in some form. I am asking for help. If it requires me to spend billions of dollars, okay. But at least i am learning. learned that electronics isn't movement apparently and that what i am asking for isn't as simple as electronics that move metal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    but hell, its better than having only science and no wishful thinking.
    I agree.
    But then again I don't know anyone like that.

    Whats the point of knowing so much if you don't want something from it?
    Huh?

    I want 2 things. I will learn what is neccesary to achieve them in some form.
    Okay here's a question.
    What use is a suit that will weigh god-knows-how-much (but maybe around a quarter tonne) and is proof against only pistols?
    (And only certain pistols at that).
    A suit that will cost who-knows-how-much to charge up with power, and make the wearer so bulky and heavy he most likely couldn't operate in any regular building for fear of collapsing stairs if not floors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warownslife View Post
    I seem to know when some things will happen. or what i should do, to get what i want, even if there is no info provided.
    So, how's that working out for you?

    What do you need to do to get the answers you want?
    Did your intuition tell you to post your questions in this forum?
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    Reading the OP makes we wonder about the possibility of objects covered in cilia and/or flagella for movement through the air....

    As for bulletproof surfaces, graphene appears to fit the bill of a possible surface that might be both light and very strong indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    Reading the OP makes we wonder about the possibility of objects covered in cilia and/or flagella for movement through the air....
    A sort of micro hand-waving solution?

    As for bulletproof surfaces, graphene appears to fit the bill of a possible surface that might be both light and very strong indeed.
    Although.... "Not only is it lighter, stronger, harder and more flexible than steel".
    I needs to be stiff - otherwise all you're doing with it is putting larger-than-bullet-sized holes in the target as the bullet flexes the material and drags that into the wound too.
    Admittedly it'll prevent deeply penetrating wounds, and reduce the mortality rate, but it will still put the victim hors de combat and increase work load on medical services 1.

    1 For exactly the same reason that, following the introduction of steel helmets in WWI, the number of casualties with head wounds rose dramatically, stretching treatment centres: guys that would have been dead from head shots lived, being badly wounded and requiring medical attention.
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    This idea simply isn't feasible with today's, or perhaps any day's... technology. Even if someone were to discover some ridiculously strong material that could stop 155mm Howitzer rounds with 1mm thickness, you still have the concussive effects. I.E, even if the armor stops a large caliber bullet, the G force on the soldier inside would still possibly cause injury. Example: .50 BMG exerts up to 14,000 ft lbs of muzzle energy, enough lead to disable any external power systems "which would require internal power systems or otherwise protected systems" and in the end the round will still be ample force to knock the soldier down or kill them. Also, assuming the soldier would be using standard issue infantry weapons, a single shot to his/her gun would disable them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Reading the OP makes we wonder about the possibility of objects covered in cilia and/or flagella for movement through the air....
    A sort of micro hand-waving solution?
    Haha, granted. I'd be interested to see an investigation of the mechanics involved though, i.e how much thrust a single flagellum/nanomotor produces in air, power requirements, etc.

    As for bulletproof surfaces, graphene appears to fit the bill of a possible surface that might be both light and very strong indeed.
    Although.... "Not only is it lighter, stronger, harder and more flexible than steel".
    I needs to be stiff - otherwise all you're doing with it is putting larger-than-bullet-sized holes in the target as the bullet flexes the material and drags that into the wound too.
    Admittedly it'll prevent deeply penetrating wounds, and reduce the mortality rate, but it will still put the victim hors de combat and increase work load on medical services 1.

    1 For exactly the same reason that, following the introduction of steel helmets in WWI, the number of casualties with head wounds rose dramatically, stretching treatment centres: guys that would have been dead from head shots lived, being badly wounded and requiring medical attention.
    Surely deaths are worse than injury though?

    In any case, there are already moves towards bulletproofing, with graphene products beating Kevlar by more than a 10 times in terms of toughness. source

    Still, with the many advancements in nanotech, I feel confident that a light exoskeleton could be developed with a variety of properties needed for something like what is proposed by the OP (minus maybe some sort of propulsion). I realise that actual tech from nano science is in it's infancy, but just reading through some of the discovered properties makes one's imagination go wild.

    PS: I am more interested in developing nanotech towards applications other than warfare.
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    not just you. also, to alex down there, how is saying "its possible" the same as having no critical thinking?
    He said that because it is apparent that you cannot utilize your current knowledge base to exclude the absurd from your list of possibilities. Doing so would require critical thinking. You aren't demonstrating it.

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    I was never proven wrong or told it wasn't possible. until now.
    Then you've been interacting with some profoundly stupid people.

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    I'm trying to learn.
    No. You're not. Therein lies the problem. What you're looking for is support and confirmation of your ridiculous notions. Trying to learn is not conducive with stubbornly rejecting reality.
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