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  1. #1 Problems with mainstream science 
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    The big bang theory is fundamentally flawed. Red-shift can be explained in many ways other than expansion. Also, the universe is clearly reveals the complete life cycle of cosmic bodies which does not point to one beginning but to an eternal and evolving universe.
    Relativity has flawed assumptions and when the proof for such is closely examined, it is not proof at all. Hundreds of papers and explanations have been writen by NPA members and others detailing arguments against the most common claims and proof of relativity - both special and general.
    Expansion tectonics (the earth is expanding / growing) is a much better model than modern-day plate tectonics. The evidence for expansion is overwhelming, with the sea floor bed ages pointing the way to all continents fitting together on a smaller orb.
    The properties of water go way beyond our current understanding (like a fourth state) and deserve special attention.
    The universe is much more electrical than currently thought where gravity has dominated the explanation for the universe's structures in mainstream science.
    Terminology is really a big problem in mainstream science. For example, energy is only a concept not a thing, space-time is an absurd concept, parallel universe is illogical (there is only one universe), and there are only three dimensions, not four or more. These are some of the terminology that have been tackled by NPA members over the decades.
    Infinity is very important to science. There are not ultimate particles or structures in the universe. There are always smaller and bigger structures to discover.
    Science in the mainstream is dominated by politics, not science. Criticism of Einstein, the big bang, and other mainstream theories is not allowed in the mainstream whereas in all other human endeavors including music, art, literature, business, politics and engineering, opposing ideas are necessary for coming up with the best solutions humans can muster. The NPA encourages diverse opinion, believing that better truths will emerge.
    The NPA is where the Galileos, Aristotles, and Newtons are working today. As it always has been with scientific progress, mainstream becomes dogmatic and religious like, and outsiders who are unshackled from livelihood and politics move science forward for future generations. Mainstream science has too much invested to throw away basic concepts like the big bang and relativity to start anew.
    Most all NPA scientists agree that science took a huge wrong-turn in the early part of the 20th century. Many NPA members independently and collectively are starting physics and cosmology over from the time of Einstein in 1905 in order to put science back on track.
    The mainstream believes the NPA members do not understand or study the mainstream and this could not be further from the truth. The NPA exists because its members both cooperatively and independently have identified fundamental flaws in mainstream physics and cosmology, knowing it better than the mainstream by necessity in order to identify its major flaws so we can go about the task of putting science back on the path to truth.
    The mainstream also believes the NPA members are not qualified to do science, this also cannot be further from the truth. The NPA and World Science Database contain almost 20% PHDs, with many professional engineers, scientists, professors, and teachers. Those who are not professional in the field have often spent decades studying and working with a subject closely.
    It is all good apart from the expanding earth ideas or the claims of matter being only three dimensions and denying other universes. Any opinions?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nsbm ranger View Post
    Any opinions?
    Certainly.
    Go join. And stop posting here.


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    Sounds like your kind of place. If we could just keep the crackpots all together in one place, it would be easier to ignore them.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
    Prof Richard Feynman (1979) .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsbm ranger View Post
    It is all good apart from the expanding earth ideas or the claims of matter being only three dimensions and denying other universes.
    Really, what is wrong with those ideas? And maybe join the flat earth society, as well.

    I am torn between telling you to join a bunch of similar narrow-minded clowns and wanting to encourage you to learn to think.

    You do not have to "believe" modern cosmology, for example, but (as I pointed out in one of your other threads) you should at least know what the theory says so that you can evaluate criticisms of it.

    But you sound as if you will be happier joining a bunch of ignorant dolts who sit around saying, "modern science must be wrong because our messed-up version of it makes no sense." Your choice.
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    It is all good apart from the expanding earth ideas or the claims of matter being only three dimensions and denying other universes. Any opinions?
    It is perfectly in line with what you stand for. That's as diplomatic as I can be.
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    You can join another forum to make things easier, or you can join a forum which challenges you. One will help you learn and develop, the other will make you feel better about yourself. The choice is yours.

    I haven't spoken to you very much so I don't have any feelings about you one way or the other like Markus and Strange seem to, but given the quality of the posts I have seen from them, you have some pretty tough challengers here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    You can join another forum to make things easier, or you can join a forum which challenges you. One will help you learn and develop, the other will make you feel better about yourself. The choice is yours.
    What he said.

    Actually, in the long run both will make you feel good about yourself. But in one case it will be a quick and shallow feeling based on meaningless mutual flattery. In the other case it will be a profound sense of achievement that you have faced challenges and come out learning something. Even if you still don't like the big bang or dark matter or evolution - at least you would be able to articulate your discontent in an intelligent and informed way. Imagine how good that would feel!
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    "The thing's hollow—it goes on forever—and—oh my God—it's full of nutters!"

    Beautiful. Magnificent desolation. It's like bathing in chocolate. I'm so happy - endorphins are rampant.
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