
Originally Posted by
risto
Well you are all about facts, so it shouldn't be hard for you to prove that there is no possibility that haarp can be used for anything else, and for the silly statements you made if I need to prove you that, you need to study buddy.
But you're the ignorant one, so it's your job to get smarter, right? Your education failed to include the bit about "evidence is needed to support assertions" and "proving a negative is generally impossible." As Strange points out, I could say "HAARP is used to power up Santa's workshop. Prove me wrong." If you can't prove me wrong, does that mean I'm right? Of course not. That would be idiotic.
So we go by the
evidence, and we sure as hell don't go by someone's inability to prove a negative.
And the overwhelming weight of evidence points to HAARP being exactly what wikipedia says. I've told you the physics, I've told you about the independent verifications provided by countless ham radio operators around the world over the decades of HAARP's operation. Now, could there be some additional hidden dimensions to HAARP's mission? Sure; the thing is funded by the military. But we know what the radiated RF power is (you can measure it from a distance with sufficient fidelity to bound it to better than within a factor of 10 without too much trouble), and we know how feeble that is compared to lightning strikes and other sources of RF power. To the lay person, 3.6megawatts may sound like a lot, but that's not that much greater than what UHF TV transmitters all over the planet routinely transmit 24/7. And even that amount is ridiculously small compared to the power of nature. A single lightning bolt's power is of the order of a TW (that's a terawatt -- a million megawatts), and there are dozens of lightning strikes each
second. Stop behaving like an infant. Look at the numbers and use your brain.
I am not trying to say that it is possible or not, I dont know,
That's not how you are behaving. You are acting in a manner indistinguishable from that of a True Believer(tm). When challenged with data, physics and information, you retreat into an attacking mode, rather than considering the information presented to you. Your best response is a feeble, "Yeah? Well, anything's possible. How can you 'scientists' say it's not????"
I need someone with some expertise in that field to give me a smart opinion, thats why I started this thread. I'll write it again, I do not need you to argue with me using the facts from wikipedia, i know all about that crap
You've been given expert opinion, and that expert opinion is that the wikipedia entry is largely correct. You call it 'crap' without offering any evidence whatsoever that it is crap, or what parts are crap, or why. It's as if you are upset that we are spoiling your conspiracy-minded fantasies. Well, reality sometimes does slap you pretty hard. My advice is to get over it. It's going to happen a lot.