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  1. #1 Were there woormholes and Stargates in Ancient times? 
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    Ancient Alien Stargate Evidence It Worked - YouTube - Shows new Mayan artifact with Alienn technology such as spaceships and stargates

    STARGATE - EVENTS OF THE PAST PRESENT AND/OUR FUTURE?? - YouTube - Goes more intothe route of wormholes and stargate and how they werebuilt into ancient Maya culture

    Check the links on the sidebar, more evidence that history has seen advance technology and stargates planeted into them


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    Were there woormholes and Stargates in Ancient times?
    No.

    Stargate; quite a good movie, far better TV series.

    The "ancients" didn't have movies or TV therefore they didn't have Stargate. QED


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    Simple answer to the above question is no.
    While wormholes could conceivably exist, a device such as the Stargate as seen on TV will likely never exist for the following reasons :

    1. Wormholes are more than likely transient phenomena on a quantum scale
    2. Even if wormholes were stable, you would need a singularity at each end to create one
    3. The tidal forces inside a wormhole would more than likely rip anything apart that enters them
    4. Given one end of a wormhole, there is no physical way to control, or even determine, where the other end is

    All these make it a totally impractical way to connect two points in our universe. Furthermore, a device used to create a wormhole would likely be on the same scale in terms of size as the solar system.
    Remember, even if aliens did indeed visit earth in acient times ( for which there is no real evidence, despite what some people may want you to believe ), they are still subject to the same physical laws as ourselves. Stargates ? Just not happening, sorry.

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    I only ask that you look at this guy Chad Stuemke: Esoteric Researcher - Sacred Symbolism in Ancient and Modern Urban Spaces He shows how Stargate architecture is liturally planted in modern society.

    Chad Stuemke- Urban Portals and gateways on Vimeo - Here he shows things like how the Mmichigan relics are not fakes and that there is plenty more around that proves that an ancient society was here that has not been recorded.. Very interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flanagan1000 View Post
    I only ask that you look at this guy Chad Stuemke: Esoteric Researcher - Sacred Symbolism in Ancient and Modern Urban Spaces He shows how Stargate architecture is liturally planted in modern society.

    Chad Stuemke- Urban Portals and gateways on Vimeo - Here he shows things like how the Mmichigan relics are not fakes and that there is plenty more around that proves that an ancient society was here that has not been recorded.. Very interesting.
    Interesting maybe, a good laugh for sure, but unfortunately devoid of any real scientific basis or evidence. Everything this guy is saying is based on his own interpretation, or simply pure conjecture.
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    THere is plenty of evidence. What about the Michigan Relics and the information he got about there being more like them that confirms that they could not be faked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flanagan1000 View Post
    THere is plenty of evidence. What about the Michigan Relics and the information he got about there being more like them that confirms that they could not be faked?
    There is no evidence whatsoever for anything...the so-called "Michigan Relics" are well known to be fakes - it does not matter how many of them there are :

    Michigan relics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by flanagan1000 View Post
    Ancient Alien Stargate Evidence It Worked - YouTube - Shows new Mayan artifact with Alienn technology such as spaceships and stargates
    So, the "evidence" listed is:

    1) - Ancient legend said the gate was actually a teleportation device of some kind.
    1a) - Legends tell that "Space Brothers" were priest rulers who came from a distant place
    1b) - Legends tell that certain constellations were designated as their true home.


    2) - A certain priest, not to long ago is said to have walked up to the door and disappeared from plain sight.
    3) - Sightings of beings appearing around the area of Lake Titicaca.

    I'm a little bit unspecific because it takes a while to get from one bit of evidence to the next. I kind of tune out all the "is it possible that? If so, then" statements.

    There's very little reason to believe the gate was capable of teleportation. However the "Ancient Aliens" guys may have succeeded at establishing that the culture from that time understood that the stars were far away and outside the Earth's gravity (with planets of their own). That would be an interesting discovery in its own right.





    STARGATE - EVENTS OF THE PAST PRESENT AND/OUR FUTURE?? - YouTube - Goes more intothe route of wormholes and stargate and how they werebuilt into ancient Maya culture

    Check the links on the sidebar, more evidence that history has seen advance technology and stargates planeted into them
    Evidence:

    1) - Pictures that *could* be ancient depictions of star gates, if one desires to perceive them that way.

    2) - A news report about a spiraling blue light over Norway which disrupted cell phone signals.

    3) - Analysis of a clay tablet that appears to depict a planet, and some flying saucers around it, and maybe a comet.

    4) - Televised news reports of UFO sightings.

    The film starts out pretty unconvincing, but gets better toward the end. They did a good job of choosing the UFO sightings they wanted to include for their film. Some of the most publicly seen, and best recorded ones. Not bad work in total. It's not overly convincing of the existence of star gates, but it's convincing of the existence of UFO's.

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    Simple answer to the above question is no.
    While wormholes could conceivably exist, a device such as the Stargate as seen on TV will likely never exist for the following reasons :

    1. Wormholes are more than likely transient phenomena on a quantum scale
    2. Even if wormholes were stable, you would need a singularity at each end to create one
    3. The tidal forces inside a wormhole would more than likely rip anything apart that enters them
    4. Given one end of a wormhole, there is no physical way to control, or even determine, where the other end is

    All these make it a totally impractical way to connect two points in our universe. Furthermore, a device used to create a wormhole would likely be on the same scale in terms of size as the solar system.
    Remember, even if aliens did indeed visit earth in acient times ( for which there is no real evidence, despite what some people may want you to believe ), they are still subject to the same physical laws as ourselves. Stargates ? Just not happening, sorry.

    If we really want to discuss the likelihood, this sounds like a good place to start. Nothing stops a space faring culture from using an entire solar system to create a wormhole. Once you're in space, and able to easily get materials off from and/or bring materials down to your home planet, the scale on which you can build would be virtually unlimited.

    It would be interesting to try and speculate about how they might build or control a wormhole using an epic sized planetary system around a large star or ... etc. And how they solve the problem of how to precisely locate the openings of the wormholes. But, .... that would mostly just be speculation since we have no idea how. Our culture would have to get to the point where we could build artificial wormholes ourselves and carefully study them in a laboratory type environment before we could know what to do to achieve that.
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    Not really sure what to make of it all, remember though it is easy to perceive something in a way you want to perceive it through convincing yourself. Also it is obvious, but I would like to point out that back then, people were probably a lot easier to convince and if people came into the generation with a mind greater than the times, they could easily manipulate the people around them, as well as back then people being highly superstitous and willing to believe in all sorts.

    But in answer, no, I do not believe there were wormholes and stargates in ancient times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    It would be interesting to try and speculate about how they might build or control a wormhole using an epic sized planetary system around a large star or ... etc. And how they solve the problem of how to precisely locate the openings of the wormholes. But, .... that would mostly just be speculation since we have no idea how. Our culture would have to get to the point where we could build artificial wormholes ourselves and carefully study them in a laboratory type environment before we could know what to do to achieve that.
    You are right, anything we might say on this topic is merely speculation.
    In my personal opinion I don't think it is physically possible to control the location and time of where the opposite end of a wormhole appears; I couldn't even speculate on a way to do this. The other thing I'd say here is that in order to stabilize the wormhole you would need to have a gravitational singularity at each end, which of course makes it impossible to travel through the wormhole and come out in one piece on the other side.
    It's just my opinion, but I don't think it is a very feasible way to travel. Also, one must not forget that in the absence of a consistent theory of quantum gravity we cannot even be sure that such a thing as a wormhole is even physically possible in the first place; the fact that such a geometry is compatible with the GR field equations does not necessarily mean that wormholes actually exist.
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    Isn't it funny how works of fiction become popular pseudoscience? It's almost as if they're not being scientific at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle View Post
    Isn't it funny how works of fiction become popular pseudoscience? It's almost as if they're not being scientific at all...
    In another forum, someone has just started discussing a crackpot idea that seems to have been borrowed from the Ringworld stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle View Post
    Isn't it funny how works of fiction become popular pseudoscience? It's almost as if they're not being scientific at all...
    In another forum, someone has just started discussing a crackpot idea that seems to have been borrowed from the Ringworld stories.
    At least it's tasteful crap.
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