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  1. #1 Is Quantam Physics showing reality as just an illusion 
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    It's Time To Wake Up - We Are All One - YouTube

    This is from the video description

    Please share this video, far and wide! Modern Science is now beginning to confirm what Spirituality, Philosophy, Sages, Ancient teachings and psychedelics have been saying for millennia, that the entire Universe is One and that what we think of as "reality" is just an illusion.. And the only real thing in the Universe is Consciousness.

    "If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet." ~ Niels Bohr


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    I judge this to be pseudoscience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    I judge this to be pseudoscience.
    And I agree
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    Here is what I'm trying to get, this guy on a radio interview says that reality in a sub consciouness level is like an internet matrix. That we are all one connected to one reality.

    HAKIM BEY-CHANGING REALITY MATRIX 4.0 KTL RADIO 9/27/11 Pt. 1 - YouTube

    Kind of creepy - He also goes on about how he is going to change reality, the website it promotes states this -

    Have you ever felt you don’t belong in this world?
    Do feel like this 9-5 work paradigm just isn’t for you?
    Have you ever felt that everything you’ve been taught is a lie?
    Have you ever felt those in positions of power and authority, really don’t know the truth themselves?
    Have you ever felt that there is something you should be doing but are not?
    Do you feel that there are things happening in your life for some greater purpose?
    Have you ever felt that you are just going along with a game you don’t really believe in and don’t want to participate in anymore?


    1. Could it be possible that what we call reality is really a computer generated virtual reality program.
    2. What is the true nature of Man, God and reality?
    3. Is the univers really a vast computer? If so, what is its operating system?
    4. Is what we call life really a program being run by the operating system of the universe?
    5. Are our physical bodies really avatars which we operate within this virtual reality program we call “the real world”?
    6. If the universe is really a vast computer with an operating, what is this operating system and what is the nature of it?
    7. Are our bodies / avatars computer terminals sharing the same operating system as the universe?
    8. What is the programming language of this shared universal operating system? And can we use this programming language to create programs to run on this universal operating system and change reality?
    9. Why is the current world order referred to as Matrix 4.0? And what is the nature of Matrx 4.0?
    10. What is the new world order referred to as Matrix 5.0? And what will be the nature of Matrix 5.0?
    11. How should we prepare for the transition from Matrix 4.0 to Matrix 5.0 in the 2012, and which is now underway?
    12. Why am I looking for 1,000 “Neotypes” to change the world in 2012?
    Moorpheus on Know The Ledge Radio 9/27/2011
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    I judge this to be pseudoscience.
    You rate it as high as that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flanagan1000 View Post
    Please share this video, far and wide!
    Why? It is the same tedious nonsense you always post.

    Modern Science is now beginning to confirm ...
    No it isn't.
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    Have none of you ever thought that our universe and reality as we know it is just some kind of illusion? I mean I have seen a few disturbing blogs that use quantam physics to show that this could be possible.

    For example take this blog - illuminatiMATRIX I will quote some of it (its very disorganised) to show wht I mean:

    The 3 dimensional curtain of deception, otherwise referred to a SINISTER FORM of HYPNOTIC MISDIRECTION, separates us from our natural state of wisdom, through awareness. The 3D perspective, everything we see, is a curtain formed in 3 directions – height, width and depth. Part of this 3 dimensional curtain is our physical body. The body has 5 physical sensors programmed to be receptive to the 3 dimensional illusion around us. The way these sensors pick up the signals from the 3D curtain is through subliminal messages. Subliminals are constructed through such techniques as simple shapes, sounds and colours, and then more complex, multi-layered methods, such as reverse imagery, reverse symbolism, distorted symbolism, reverse speech patterns, neuro-linguistic (brain language) programming techniques, and the elaborate use of the language and number systems, among other devious modes of manipulation.
    http://www.thescienceforum.com/newre...ply&t=26176The 3 dimensional illusion is CREATED BY THE THOUGHT PROCESS. Thinking is not being aware. Thinking is that thing any conscious being APPEARS TO DO to attempt to manipulate the future, or relive the pain/pleasure from the past. Both these time zones, the future and the past, do not exist. Therefore, thinking about them to manipulate them is a deception. However, to consider what is happening in this moment is not called thinking. Staying in the moment and meeting the needs of the moment is awareness of the 3 dimensional space, albeit, an illusory space. To function within this 3D space requires that needs be met. Reality, and our true eternal wisdom state, extends beyond the 3D illusory forms, and that wisdom state simply knows everything through awareness, ALREADY. Our eternal wisdom state knows the manipulation process of the luciferian egregore group of thinkers. Wisdom knows that this luciferian group plays god and plays the devil. Both of which are none existent. Wisdom, through awareness, sees how this group mindset bands together to manifest the reality they want all humanity to follow.
    The luciferian entity is the fabricated creator god. In creating this illusory 3D reality using subliminal, subconscious messaging, this group entity conjured up and controls all power and energy, and in turn, the reverent respect of their illusory master creation called humanity. This adoration by humanity gives the luciferian group and their chosen elite the riches and servitude of this world and ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE ETERNAL PARADISE STATE. Because they, themselves, chose thinking and lying above awareness and wisdom, this 3D illusion is their reality. However, it is a reality fragmented, corrupted and filled with all manner of duality. They see this reality as superior to the reality of wisdom. Wisdom does not exhibit 3D manipulation through shape, colour or sound, so ultimately, wisdom is a reality of peace.
    There is no such thing as TIME and SPACE, and to enter into activities where you confess, and admit, disconnection from wisdom, simply by entering into that activity whereby you hope to reconnect to wisdom, (or as some call it, ENLIGHTENMENT), then you have not RECONNECTED WITH your original WISDOM STATE.
    (Enlightenment is a luciferian term that sounds and seems to speak of reconnection to wisdom, however wisdom and enlightenment have nothing in common).
    When you do NO THING, other than being fully aware that the 3 dimensional experience is an illusory deception conjured up through the THOUGHT PROCESS,, which is turn was meant to disconnect us from REALITY, then you have reconnected to your original eternal wisdom state. There’s nothing to do, just simply become AWARE of what is transpiring. Perfection and purity is what we are ALREADY. This is wisdom and this is liberty, this is the freedom and the power and strength of what we ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. The illusory 3 dimensional teachings of intellectual and religious thought systems, that instruct us to believe that we are born sinners, and need to repent, to avoid some hell fire, are conjured up lunatic notions straight from the mind of the luciferian egregore group mind. (This will be explained and fully laid out in the pages on this site. Do not stop reading if you desire to reclaim your ORIGINAL PARADISE STATE RIGHT NOW).
    The aim of the luciferian group egregore is to establish a New World Messianic Age, where the control of the illusion we call humanity, is the manipulation tactic that will be increased to such an extent that escape from being manipulated by the total 3D illusion is all but impossible. Wisdom knows, and sees the lunacy of this 3D illusory reality. The illusion called humanity, (and humanity is an illusion), will awake from the trance and reconnect to our original state through awareness. These entities, who manifest their CONTROL OF REALITY through the lives of the elite, will soon dissolve in frustration as humanity stops responding to the subliminal messages that bombard the wisdom state in endless fashion. For it is that the 3 dimensional experience is NOT REAL, and it only exists IN OUR MINDS. Therefore, its in OUR MINDS, (which are in reality, THEIR MINDS), that we disconnect emotionally from the 3D space and reclaim our eternal state, which is here now. This is what we are! We are the original eternal paradise state, and the 3D illusion was simply conjured up through the THOUGHT PROCESS to separate us from this immense power and peace of the wisdom state and thereby deceptively manipulate this ultimate state of being into servitude to the luciferian egregore. The beneficial aspect in understanding this, is that at any moment of our choosing, we can become aware of the luciferian hypnotic manipulation, and we can reclaim our wisdom state, and experience the freedom of the paradise state right now.
    And another bog that I saw was this one ******** The DARK STAR ********: Project Dark Star - The search for the Black Sun


    And finally, a weird Youtve channel that is some kind of hypnotic trance about how we live in some virtual reality, how to control it, how we are reaching the singulariy. Just weird,check out and you will see particleion's Channel - YouTube

    It saysi t all in the first line - "Why do you cling to your pathetic existence"
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    Also, have alook at this guy caled Bobby Hemmitt - he says the world is an illusion and his experiancesof seeng his old home town literally disappearing out of reality. He also states that soon bigger cities will start to dissapear BRO BOBBY HEMMITT; END OF THE ILLUSION aka THIS WORLD part 1 - YouTube BRO BOBBY HEMMITT; END OF THE ILLUSION aka THIS WORLD part 2/2 - YouTube

    Basically the world is created from our brain, reality is just a perception. Its a very profund thing.

    And look at another speach he made - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVF_W..._order&list=UL, There have been previous Earths that have existed in anotther realm and we have just forgoten them, thats why we caan't find evidence for things like Atlantis.
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    Look, I manage to find more information about what he means.


    ~~~~~*****Empress Flow*****~~~~~ - Bro Bobby Hemmitt: The Government (distraction) aka The illusion 2010 STRONG PROFANITY

    a. An erroneous perception of reality.
    b. An erroneous concept or belief.
    2. The condition of being deceived by a false perception or belief.
    3. Something, such as a fantastic plan or desire, that causes an erroneous belief or perception.

    By Remez Sasson

    Is the world just an illusion or real? This is a question that some of the people who visit this website and blog ask.

    The world is not real in the sense that:

    * Nothing is permanent in the world.
    * The reality or lack or reality of the world largely depends on our five senses.
    * Everything is vibration in various wavelengths.
    * Everything is made from the same tiny particles, so the same particles can take different forms.
    * Everything that we call truth depends on our prior mental programming and education. What someone deems as truth, someone else deems as untrue.
    * The world is an illusion not in the sense that it is non-existent, but in the sense that we create this illusion with our attitude, upbringing and ignorance. We often create with our feelings and thoughts an illusory world that does not exist. We create a veil that hides reality.

    One can understand clearly the illusion only when he or she can free himself or herself from this illusion, and this does not come from just denying the reality of the world and becoming apathetic. This come from the ability to switch off the mind and look inside, and requires a lot of inner work.

    We project our thoughts and feelings on the world around us, like a cinema screen on which pictures and light and projected. The screen is real, but the pictures are not. Yet, we respond and react to these moving pictures. They look real when we watch a movie. So it is with our thoughts, feelings and beliefs, when we project them outside. They look real us, and we do not see the reality that is beyond them.

    Many things are made from clay, which we call by deferent names, such as vases, statues, plates etc, but nevertheless, they are made of clay, only temporarily turned into various objects.

    You can many things from gold, bracelets, pendants, rings or earrings, yet they are all gold, temporarily shaped into certain forms, and given names – labels.

    The clay and the gold are real stuff, but the forms are only shapes made from this stuff, temporarily existing, and therefore not real. This can give you some notion about really and illusion of the world.

    Though the world is an illusion, you live in it. Even if you accept the unreality of the world, you still are subject to its laws. Even highly evolved souls have to eat and drink and have certain material necessities. Running away or becoming apathetic is not the right attitude.

    Be in the world, but also be out of it. Do your chores and tasks, do your best in everything you do, but at the same time stay calm and emotionally detached.

    People who have been able to rise above the illusion of the world, through meditation and inner work, and who have been able to attain real inner peace and what is called “enlightenment”, don’t necessarily live in secluded places and stop any interaction with the world, though some do. Some continue with the same life they lived before, working and taking care of the day-to-day chores and tasks. Some might start writing, and others might start teaching what they have learned. They don’t become apathetic or indifferent.

    You might say that if the world we live in is just an illusion, Maya, a dream, what’s the point in participating in anything if it’s not real. You can’t stop participating, and acting in the world. Do what you need to do, but at the same time stay calm and detached. Look at the world, as not being real, but without running away from it. This attitude and behavior would make you feel more free and at peace. Live in the illusion, but at the same time let the life force inside you act and express itself. Always look within you, beyond thoughts, feelings and beliefs, beyond illusion. This will lead to inner peace, detachment and enlightenment
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    Yeah, OK. It's all an illusion. So what.
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    Dosen't that frak you out. According to Bobby in this video Bro Bobby Hemmitt: 2012 IS NOW!!!!! aka 2012 season (flv video) | (Free File Download, File Backup, File Sharing and Publishing) fliiby.com - We are entering some kind of transformatioon, that reality goes arund in cycles and that the reason we can'tfind stuff like Atlantis and Lumeria was ecuase they weere in another spirital realm. Does it not freak you out that movies like thee Matrix could be true.
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    With that many exclamation marks, it must be true.
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    By the way, David Wilcock, who is another proponment of what youwould call new age view on DNA, reality and consciousness has come across a ig secret that proves what he is saying is true.

    New! David Wilcock: The Book of Maklumat, The Book of Codes THE BIGGEST SECRET IS OUT - YouTube
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    Flanagan, That's quite enough spam. If you don't intend to join the conversation than don't post anything. This is a warning.
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    Be nice, though, to live in this dream world, where everything is so connected. If this were true there would immediately be a chamge in mentality. The only reason these people can feel this way is because of an egotistical, overly wealthy, blown up, misguided knowledge of the bubble of a world they exist within. Nice to play a big mindwarp money game. Take any of these spoilt personalities out of there safe-box and put them in the real world and change an attitude. These kind need to know struggle, hardship, hunger, not want but need to discover how far seperate and disconnected the innocent and guilty really are. It might be nicer to awaken this type of ignorance. [needs more adjectives]
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    The Soul Travelers full length - YouTube

    If you go to the 1 hour and second minute mark, this man in the documentary goes well into quantam physics and how it relates to the occult world, check it out, if you dare!
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    sigh, more linkspam. Why don't you watch an hour of the damn thing and tell us what it says, and what your conclusions are. That we can discuss here. This is not a place to post YouTube links to pseudoscience. This is for actual discussion of it.
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    I'm not that good at discussion unfortunatly, if it makes any better, there is an e-book of the whole film with a cahpter index and page numbers so its easy to find what part you are looking for - Michael Wynn's The Soul Travelers

    He links science with the occult and shows how it is being used to manipulate things - heck he even goes into a section on astral vampires. Its well documentated with evidence from actual mystical books and authors.
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    Yet another spamlink. Jeez, do you ever do any thinking on your own? Or actual SCIENTIFIC research?

    "Its well documentated with evidence from actual mystical books" doesn't count as real science.
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    Making fantasy into reality has been a great gift and a great curse to our existance. This happens quite often, that someone will tell a story, make it sound more interesting than reality, and someone will try to make it an actual part of history. From the effects of William Shatner [good] to Hitler[evil]. Just don't take it too far the wrong way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flanagan1000 View Post
    I'm not that good at discussion unfortunatly, if it makes any better, there is an e-book of the whole film with a cahpter index and page numbers so its easy to find what part you are looking for - Michael Wynn's The Soul Travelers
    Are these people paying you for your services?

    He links science with the occult and shows how it is being used to manipulate things - heck he even goes into a section on astral vampires.
    How did you check that he isn't making it all up? "Astral vampires"? Really? Does he mention invisible pink unicorns, because I know they exist.

    Its well documentated with evidence from actual mystical books and authors.
    So one work of fiction references other works of fiction. Good ...
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    Flannagan, if I can demonstrate to your satisfaction that we are indeed living in a computer simulation will you go away? Or will I have to reprogram you?
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