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    'How long did it take that pebbled beach to look like that sandy beach?

    Our great scholars put a time-span to the erosion process and their estimate was … eons. They quote’ nature took ‘A Thousand Million Years’ to turn solid rock into boulders’ boulders into pebbles’ and pebbles into all the sand in the world.

    This geological time-span was used as a baseline for dating everything from evolution to the laws of physics, and the time-span is wrong, clearly wrong because Beach Pebbles’get ‘Bigger’ not smaller.

    Beach pebbles are formed by the process of ‘Tidemark’ … a tidal layering process.It’s the same process as a wash basin when a thin layer of grime builds up around the inside; albeit sea-basin or wash-basin the process is the same. ‘Dirtywater bigger tidemark’

    Correct the baseline and you will find that six thousand years ago, when the Pyramids were built, limestone was soft, very similar in density to today’s lightweight building blocks?

    You could cut limestone with a piece of wood, let alone a piece of copper, and remember there was no iron or steel in those days, our pyramids were built using onlycopper tools.

    At the time’ limestone was the prefect building material, a bit like huge lumps of dense dried cuttlefish that has hardened over the years, like the baking of acake.

    Correct this geological error and you will also find the planet is not old enough to mould modern man from a monkey let alone from absolutely nothing?

    Reverse your ‘pebble to sand equation’ and Evolution’ ie’ Monkey to Man’ … becomes the ‘Reverse Theory’ and thus revealing a path to another dimension


     

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    right....


     

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    nonsense on stilts
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    C'mon, go with it: putting the idea of growing rocks and initially lightweight limestone together, we get a whole new picture of the construction of the Pyramids.

    They were made out of small, lightweight beach pebbles easily cut with sharp wooden sticks and moved into place by dinosaur, and then they grew and got really heavy and dense through the influence of lithomorphic amplitudinal factors.
     

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    o.O soft rock
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    what, like the Eagles ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorWayne View Post
    right....
    ... Indeed ... fortunately
     

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    Pessimist or optimist springs to mind
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    o.O soft rock
    Not soft rock' lightweight limestone
     

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    what exactly is the measure used to determine the limestone was "lightweight" at some point and why did it change to the wight it has now.
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    are we talking about a change in density or mass ?
    either way, i would be interested to hear what the physics behind those changes could be
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    the answer is so long it would be better if you google reverse theory
     

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    That does not answer the question. No matter what the answer is a summary should be givable
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    One would imagine ‘density’ as the blocks are presently ‘not lightweight’ more solid rock, but again it would be better, quicker, to google 'reverse theory'
     

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    No, it would be better for the discussion to say on the discussion forum here.

    Also, do you have a citation for this statement?

    Our great scholars put a time-span to the erosion process and their estimate was … eons. They quote’ nature took ‘A Thousand Million Years’ to turn solid rock into boulders’ boulders into pebbles’ and pebbles into all the sand in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnx
    are we talking about a change in density or mass ?
    either way, i would be interested to hear what the physics behind those changes could be
    Boring, boring, boring.

    Let's just skip to the good stuff, about building little Pyramids and Stonehenges and stuff out of small and lightweight limestone beach pebbles carved with wooden sticks - and then watching them grow. Is this something we can do at home: mix up a batch of limestone to soft ball stage, divide it into blocks on a cookie sheet, and build a dollhouse sized garage - then watch it grow to size?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceaura View Post
    Is this something we can do at home: mix up a batch of limestone to soft ball stage, divide it into blocks on a cookie sheet, and build a dollhouse sized garage - then watch it grow to size?
    only if you truly believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    No, it would be better for the discussion to say on the discussion forum here.

    Also, do you have a citation for this statement?

    Our great scholars put a time-span to the erosion process and their estimate was … eons. They quote’ nature took ‘A Thousand Million Years’ to turn solid rock into boulders’ boulders into pebbles’ and pebbles into all the sand in the world.
    Sand; solid rock is broken down by the wind, rain and frost, leaving the more resistant rocks in large fragments, these large fragment then roll around grinding against each other along the seashores, where, through the ages, they loss their rough edges and become gravel and sand ….
    Age’ a long division of geological time … aeons
    My quote is self adjusted to simplify, however, it’s all commonsense really

    In reply to your quote that limestone formed over millions of years of ocean deposition of plankton sized organisms
    Limestone forming over millions of year was classified because the planet was thought to be millions of years old before hand.
    It was thought millions of years old because of the time it took solid rock to become sand, or’ how long it took that pebbled beach to look like that sandy beach
    Sand derived from our missing landscapes, from such places as the Grand Canyon whilst soft and mud-like, there is a bit more to it but first things first, pebbles get bigger. Obviously they bash and grind together but the input is greater than the output, especially in the summer.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Ball View Post
    . . . however, it’s all commonsense really
    I hope your logic is not common -- it doesn't bode well for the future of science.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Ball View Post
    . . . however, it’s all commonsense really
    I hope your logic is not common -- it doesn't bode well for the future of science.
    I'm afaid Science is up the paddle without a creek
     

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    Ok At this point I would like to have a mod merge the two threads Christopher is commenting on into one as they are clearly discussing the same thing. I would suggest moving it all here and leaving the opening couple of posts in the "how is oil formed" thread there so it can actually be be explored.
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    i suggest banning him
    Don't bother visiting my Earth Sciences forum, it died a death due to lack of love
     

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    I don't know, this site is getting really weird (or maybe it has been all along). Pseudoscience or non-science alternating with cosmological "theses" (with four grammar errors per sentence) by those that haven't ever taken a physics or astronomy class. Moderators starting troll-like threads. Moderators posting in flame-like manner. Members bragging about hit-and-runs they just executed. Sometimes I can see why the established members resort to ad-hom attacks -- some of these knuckleheads deserve it.
     

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    At some point there should be a line. Wherever that line is. This is way beyond the line.
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    agreed - there's not much point continuing with this thread
    closed
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