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  1. #1 Big Bang & the size of the exploding object. 
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    There is matter in our universe. Possibly came from the Big Bang.
    What exploded & what was it's size has baffled scientists for decades now.

    Saying that something gave it it's size is confusing as the "Chicken & the egg".

    You need a ckicken to lay an agg & you need a egg to hatch a chicken.

    So what was the big bangs at the begining?

    Something gave it it's size.

    Outside our universe is possibly infinite space. And there talking of dark energy.
    Dark energy has to have size, you could say that nothing solid can be infinite but if you take einsteins view of Gravity getting infinitly weaker 1 - 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/8 - 1/16 - 1/32 You can apply this to anything solid too, Am object getting infinitly thiner.

    So the big bang could have started from an infinitly thinnng object or energy.
    May be gravity pulled this infinitly thinning object in so much it exploded.

    I just invented a new word by spelling mistake.

    Outsize our universe.


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    Electricity has a positive & negative.

    Energy could have too.

    Outsize our universe.

    Your allways be inside.

    Your in space, everything else is solid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by griffithsuk View Post
    There is matter in our universe. Possibly came from the Big Bang.
    Saying that something gave it it's size is confusing as the "Chicken & the egg".
    The chicken and the egg is not confusing. Think evolution.
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    What temperature is the outside of our universe? What is the temperature of the inside?
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    The outside is solid. You see space.

    If theres something there its solid, else it is space.

    ...Infinity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffithsuk View Post
    What temperature is the outside of our universe? What is the temperature of the inside?
    The former question here makes no sense- as far as we know (unless if you accept the Anthropic Principle and Multi-verse Theory) there is no "outside the universe", space and everything in it is inside the universe; the universe itslef may be infinitely large- or it may be finite but have no boundary (as in a spherical geometry). The "temperature that is always there" inside the universe left over from the Big Bang is 2.7 K and is produced by the cosmic microwave background radiation (of which 1% of the static on an old TV is made up of).

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    Electricity has a positive & negative.

    Energy could have too.
    Energy is a scalar quantity (just magnitude, no direction) and so cannot be attributed a directional value as well as a size.
    "Nature doesn't care what we call it, she just does it anyway" - R. Feynman
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffithsuk View Post
    There is matter in our universe. Possibly came from the Big Bang.
    What exploded & what was it's size has baffled scientists for decades now.
    Scientists don't think anything "exploded". The current view is that of metric expansion, where space is created inside the universe, rather than the universe expanding into pre-existing space.

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    Outside our universe is possibly infinite space.
    No. There is no "outside the universe" according to the experts. The universe is not expanding "into" empty space.

    Why not study what the theory actually says, rather than make your own interpretations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedFreek View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by griffithsuk View Post
    There is matter in our universe. Possibly came from the Big Bang.
    What exploded & what was it's size has baffled scientists for decades now.
    Scientists don't think anything "exploded". The current view is that of metric expansion, where space is created inside the universe, rather than the universe expanding into pre-existing space.

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    Outside our universe is possibly infinite space.
    No. There is no "outside the universe" according to the experts. The universe is not expanding "into" empty space.

    Why not study what the theory actually says, rather than make your own interpretations?
    Where did I say "Empty Space"?
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    As far as I can make up, space was infinitly small at the beginning of time compared to the solid around it.

    Question is does space need to expand, size could be irrelevant, it is what is is, infinitly small space compared to an infinitly large solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffithsuk View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffithsuk View Post
    There is matter in our universe. Possibly came from the Big Bang.
    What exploded & what was it's size has baffled scientists for decades now.
    Scientists don't think anything "exploded". The current view is that of metric expansion, where space is created inside the universe, rather than the universe expanding into pre-existing space.

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    Outside our universe is possibly infinite space.
    No. There is no "outside the universe" according to the experts. The universe is not expanding "into" empty space.

    Why not study what the theory actually says, rather than make your own interpretations?
    Where did I say "Empty Space"?
    Sorry, that is how I interpreted your assertion that "outside our universe is possibly infinite space". In cosmology, we know of no "outside", and assume the universe doesn't have an edge where the universe ends and there is only empty infinite space beyond. Perhaps you are referring to another dimension?
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffithsuk View Post
    As far as I can make up, space was infinitly small at the beginning of time compared to the solid around it.
    In cosmology, when talking of the size of the universe, measurements are only made relative to the size of the universe now. The universe might have been infinitely small when compared to how it is now, but experts do consider there was anything "around it". They especially do not thing there was anything solid, around it.
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    Another dimension? All i see is in front of me is space and solid.

    Speedfreek, at point xy in the universe if it is not space then what is it?
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    Yes, in that case, the universe contains only space and solid, and the universe is all we know of.

    We do not consider there to be either space or solid "outside the universe", as we do not know an "outside".

    Surprisingly, I bet most people would bet on space, rather than solid, if they had to make a choice.

    But science doesn't need to make that choice, as there is no way to test for it, and no possible consequences for the universe either way. Something "outside" the universe cannot affect it without becoming part of it, no?

    By dimensions, I was referring to the notion that the dimensions of our universe (space and time), may or may not exist within a higher dimension.
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    I honistly believe that it does not have to be expanding. It could, it could be not.
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    You know it could be that the universe is not expanding but space is sort of dividing.

    Where ever there is space, there could be another.
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    Which would increase the space between distant galaxies, no?
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    I see where you are.

    can you point me to evidance of galaxys distances increasing, other than redshift? it could be in light waves, light travel at different speeds due to radiation travelling along the waves are different wave lengths.
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    If the universe is sort of dividing, then atoms could be the smalles things.

    Size is irrelevant in our universe, it is what it is.

    Gravity pulled in creating 2 empty spaces, which divided.
    Gravity pulled in creating extra space.

    Atoms rearanged themselves to what they are today. Life!
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    This resource is a good place to start:

    Evidence for the Big Bang
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    Thanks....
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    They say multiverses, it could be infinite.
    Which really means one large universe.

    Just as much chance of universe dividing as the big bang expanding. Size is irrelevant.

    Life is atoms within a gravity pulling universly divided space.

    When your outside your in a openly divided place, everything can be seen.
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    There is no outside to the universe, it's one open space.
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    At the beginning to time gravity pulled the universe in to atoms & space.

    Atoms within Space.

    Take a simple idea that size is irrelevant, then infinite and finite is irrelevant too.
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    There is X amount of Atoms & Y Amount of Space.
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    Why are you making all this stuff up?
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    Its obviusly very easy to make any outlandish claim you want if you don't have to back it with logical reasoning and extensions of accepted theory.
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    Moving to Pseudo.
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    So what the the short accepted theory?
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