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    As I know, many scientists from different countries are studying my theory (Aether dynamic theory). I wish my knowledge be shared by all human beings.

    This theory is based on the Aether gravitational theory (17th century), the Aether electromagnetic theory (19th century) and Aether atomic theory.

    I have proved anti-aether theories (the law of universal gravitation, the theory of relativity, Quantum physics) are totally wrong. Please pay attention to the article in the following link.

    Science is in the Matrix

    I am going to give an explanation to point 4. Why Quantum Physics is totally wrong. The mass of Electron is 9.1 x 10^-31kg, Mr Millikan weighed it with 2 metal boards and several oil drops. It's impossible.

    If you don't believe me, you can check his experiment by yourself. I have study this experiment for more than 1 year. I'm very sure about my conclusion. From the data in this experiment, the calculated radius of oil drop is about 1um(10^-6m), but the real radius of oil drop is at least 10um, which means the calculated volume of oil drop is at least 1000 times smaller than real volume of oil drop.

    Aether theory can explain where natural disasters come from, anti-aether theories can do nothing about this.

    Theories are not just theories, they are lives.

    Someone, if you understand me, please stand up bravely.

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    Oh dear, not you again- you've already been shown to be utterly wrong on that thread where you claimed the measured mass of the Earth to be incorrect. Relativity, quantum theory etc are extremely well-developed theories with millions of peer-reviewed paper backing them up- you have not proved them wrong.


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    if your just going to argue from incredulity then dont bother tomjin
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    I am going to give an explanation to this thread. Why tomjin2000 is totally wrong. The average intelligence quotient of a person is 100 points, but this is measured on a piece of paper/computer. It's impossible.

    If you don't believe me, you can check the method by yourself. I have study this method for more than 1 minute. I'm very sure about my conclusion. From the data I'm making up, the average intelligence of this forum is 1300 IQ points, but the IQ of tomjin2000 is 1.3, which means his calculated IQ is at least 1000 times smaller than average.

    My theory can explain why tomjin2000 puts serious thoughts into silly concepts, his aether theories can do nothing about this.

    Theories are not just theories, they are potato.

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    I stood up bravely once, and an octopus attached itself to my face.
    Yes, theories are potato, I ate one once and it tasted like chicken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomjin2000 View Post
    As I know, many scientists from different countries are studying my theory (Aether dynamic theory).
    No, they are not.

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    This theory is based on the Aether gravitational theory (17th century), the Aether electromagnetic theory (19th century) and Aether atomic theory.
    This is why the are not.

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    I have proved anti-aether theories (the law of universal gravitation, the theory of relativity, Quantum physics) are totally wrong.
    No, you have not.

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    Please pay attention to the article in the following link.

    Science is in the Matrix
    This is why you have not.

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    I am going to give an explanation to point 4. Why Quantum Physics is totally wrong.
    No, you will not.

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    The mass of Electron is 9.1 x 10^-31kg, Mr Millikan weighed it with 2 metal boards and several oil drops. It's impossible.

    If you don't believe me, you can check his experiment by yourself. I have study this experiment for more than 1 year. I'm very sure about my conclusion. From the data in this experiment, the calculated radius of oil drop is about 1um(10^-6m), but the real radius of oil drop is at least 10um, which means the calculated volume of oil drop is at least 1000 times smaller than real volume of oil drop.
    See? You did not. All you did is assert that Millikan calculated the wrong mass for the oil drop, without even explaining why on Earth you would think that. This is not an explanation of why quantum physics is wrong. It is not even an explanation of why you think the calculated mass was wrong.

    And you do know there is more than one way to determine the mass of an electron, don't you? Strangely enough, they all seem to agree.

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    Aether theory can explain where natural disasters come from
    No, it cannot.

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    Theories are not just theories, they are lives.
    This is why.
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    If the radius of Oil drop is about 1um (even smaller than some dust and bacteria) , which is calculated from data in exp, then observer can't see oil drops, because they are too small and the magnification times of microscope is just 30x or less (in many oil drop experiment). The real radius of oil drops should be much larger than 10um.

    Anti-aether scientists have made a mathematical Matrix, they put everything in, they let us believe we know everything about Universe, for example, how big and how old Universe is, how heavy the Earth is, how heavy an Electron is, and so on.

    Mr Canvendish weighed the mass of Earth with a balance and 4 lead balls, it's not true. It's just a kind of trick which blinds human beings.

    Please get out of anti-aether Matrix, come out and face the truth. The truth is very very shocking, but it is also very exciting and challenging.

    Return to Aether theories and face the challenge.
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    Millikan oil drop experiment is a very common experiment in many University. You may have chance to observe it by yourself, please ask yourself a question, how big are the oil drops.
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    all you are doing is arguing from incredulity, you have never at any point "proved" the experiment wrong. All you ever do is say "i don't like it, so it must be wrong" and then refer to long disproven ideas combined with vague threats of death doom and destruction if you aren't listened too.
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    I'm pretty sure Milikan oil drop has been superseded by other tests that are more accurate and reliable. If nothing else, the cathode ray tube in your TV set has to be calibrated around the correct mass of an electron or it won't steer the electrons from its electron gun to hit the right pixel on the screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomjin2000 View Post
    Millikan oil drop experiment is a very common experiment in many University. You may have chance to observe it by yourself, please ask yourself a question, how big are the oil drops.
    It might be a better idea to discuss this with your professor, so you don't get the wrong end of the stick.
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    For some reason, this response from SpeedFreek

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    made me crack up. It just shows the absolute despair, so to speak.
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    I'm studying the original document about oil drop experiment which was written by Mr Millikan. The radius in his experiment is about 2 or 3 um. I still can't find any information about the magnification times of the microscope. But because the oil drops fell about 10 mm, I think, probably, the magnification times of the microscope should be less than 10.

    If the real radius of oil drops is really 2 or 3 um, He couldn't observe the oil drops with this kind of microscope. I wish someone can take a photo of the oil drops in this experiment and find out the real radius of oil drops, it's not difficult for some person. I'm living in a remote small town in Australia, I can't do it by myself.

    Millikan Oil Drops experiment document, written by R A Millikan
    http://www.ffn.ub.es/luisnavarro/nue...kan_e_1913.pdf
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    Why not look at some of the other, more recent methods used to determine the mass of an electron, before you declare it to be incorrect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedFreek View Post
    Why not look at some of the other, more recent methods used to determine the mass of an electron, before you declare it to be incorrect?
    I haven't seen anyone get the charge of an electron in different method. If Mr Millikan's experiment is wrong, and other scientists get the same conclusion as Millikan's, what does this mean?

    Cargo cult science (Feynman's 1974 Caltech commencement address).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomjin2000 View Post
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    Why not look at some of the other, more recent methods used to determine the mass of an electron, before you declare it to be incorrect?
    I haven't seen anyone get the charge of an electron in different method. If Mr Millikan's experiment is wrong, and other scientists get the same conclusion as Millikan's, what does this mean?
    That Millikan was right by accident. Wouldn't be the first time I'm sure. Basically, unless you can also show more modern experiments to be flawed, then it doesn't really matter what you say about the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBiologista View Post
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    Why not look at some of the other, more recent methods used to determine the mass of an electron, before you declare it to be incorrect?
    I haven't seen anyone get the charge of an electron in different method. If Mr Millikan's experiment is wrong, and other scientists get the same conclusion as Millikan's, what does this mean?
    That Millikan was right by accident. Wouldn't be the first time I'm sure. Basically, unless you can also show more modern experiments to be flawed, then it doesn't really matter what you say about the original.
    There is a big problem in Physics. Scientists only accept useful result, no matter it's correct or not. Unless I give them a more useful result, they are not going to abandon old one.

    Proving useful result is correct, a lot of scientists make a living upon this. It's hard to change.
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    First you have to prove the current results are false. That they are replicatable and fit the current theories would be an indication that they are not false though.
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