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  1. #1 Seven "talking type" Seals 
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    Seven "talking type" Seals

    Book of Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation scholars claim the seven seals are the seven Phocaea (Ionia) ~600 BC produced electrum stater seals located along the bottom of Scroll Trench, a 7th-6th century BC earthwork at Stonehenge. Also called the Arc Trench seven seals, the first (1st) seal was found on May 19, 1923 by Robert Newall, an Office of Works draughtsman. Six (6) seals remain covered by soil in between the Heelstone and the elder encircling Heelstone Ditch. According to these Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation scholars the Son of man acquired the seven seals (Greek: phoce; Family: Phocidae) from what is now Western Turkey. After their sealing, the Books of Ezekiel and Daniel were written - type parlant apocalyptic Book of Revelation following.

    British Museum - Electrum stater with a seal

    The first (1st) seal was found at the intersection of Scroll Trench and elder Heelstone Ditch (where it once was). Located 2 ft (0.61m) East of Lt-Col. William Hawley's May 19, 1923 unexcavated C6 right-angled triangle hypotenuse center at a depth of 4.5 ft (1.37m) below ground level (GL), this westernmost first (1st) seal is now in The British Museum. An EM (electromagnetic conductivity) suvey of the remaining six (6) seals show them distributed at intervals of one seal per cubit (1.5 ft, 0.46m) as measured from the horizontal surface plane above. These seals progressively deepen to the East downward to seven artifacts encased by EM detected and core sampled bronze covered wood below Heelstone's sculptured man's face (Ez. 1:10, 10:14; Rev. 4:7).

    To the right hand of him (the man's face) that sits on the throne (Ez. 1:26) seven seals were sealed (Rev. 5:1), each being separate and individually positioned at right-angled triangle depth intervals, their locations more particularly described as follows:



    BEGINNING at the first (1st) Phocaea (Ionia) ~600 BC produced electrum stater seal located along the bottom of Arc Trench, a 7th-6th century BC earthwork at Stonehenge, said first (1st) seal found by Robert Newall on May 19, 1923 at the intersection of Scroll Trench and the elder Heelstone Ditch (where it once was), and said first (1st) seal located 2 ft (0.61m) East of Lt-Col. William Hawley's 19th May 1923 unexcavated C6 right-angled triangle hypotenuse center at a depth of 4.5 ft (1.37m) below ground level (GL) surface;

    THENCE East 1.5ft (0.46m) down Arc Trench to EM detected second (2nd) sealed seal;
    THENCE East 1.5 ft (0.46m) down Scroll Trench to EM detected third (3rd) sealed seal;
    THENCE East 2 ft (0.61m)) down Arc Trench to EM detected fourth (4th) sealed seal;
    THENCE East 2 ft (0.61m) down Scroll Trench to EM detected fifth (5th) sealed seal;
    THENCE East 2.5 ft (0.76m) down Arc Trench to EM detected sixth (6th) sealed seal;
    THENCE East 2.5ft (0.76m) down Scroll trench to EM detected seventh (7th) sealed seal;
    THENCE East 3.0 ft (0.91m) down Arc Trench to EM detected / augered bronze wood;
    THE THRONE BEGINNING; in County of Wiltshire, at Great Britain, of United Kingdom.

    Panoramio - Photo of Scroll Trench, Stonehenge, Great Britain, UK
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    Hmm, is there a point you are trying to make with this? or is it just a lead in so people will click the links?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Denke View Post
    Seven "talking type" Seals

    Book of Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation scholars claim the seven seals are the seven Phocaea (Ionia) ~600 BC produced electrum stater seals located along the bottom of Scroll Trench, a 7th-6th century BC earthwork at Stonehenge.
    What scholars are you referring to?
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    Heelstone Artifacts Rescue Dig

    Scroll Trench, also called Arc Trench, is a 25 ft (7.6m) long by 9 ft (2.7m) wide curved cutting into the Late Cretaceous (Santonian Age) Seaford Chalk formation at Stonehenge in England. Located within the (southern) Avenue, it begins as a shallow disturbance over Stonehole B (WA 3606) increasing in depth east-northeast as it scrolls-arcs to the East deeper, its final depth being unknown. This broad feature cuts perpendicular through Heelstone Ditch whose segment is missing there in its curved path towards Stonehole 96 (WA 163), the Heelstone. It is exceedingly deep (6 ft, 1.8m) where it crosses just East passed the missing segment of Heelstone Ditch (average depth: 4 ft, 1.2m). Entirely cut away is Heelstone Ditch's lower-half fill of Early Carboniferous (Arundian Age) High Tor Limestone and its upper-half fill of silted-in periglacial cryoturbated chalk. Scroll Trench's backfill soil is a mixture of both lithologies and stone chips of all Stonehenge period varieties, indicating it postdates their occurrences. Stratigraphic sequence runs Scroll Trench - Stonehole 97 - Heelstone Ditch - (southern) Avenue Bank, from most recent to earliest. Lt-Col William Hawley found Scroll Trench in his "Excavations at Stonehenge during the season of 1923";

    "I did not follow the course of it up to the Helestone, as I should like to have done, for I avoided going nearer to it than 10 ft., fearing to disturb its stability (the depth being unknown)" - "A satisfactory examination would not be possible without permission and assistance from the Office of Works." (page 25)

    Scroll Trench, eastward from Heelstone Ditch to the Heelstone, remains unexcavated to this day. The feature was dated by Office of Works' draughtsman Robert Newall as 7th-6th century BC, with an electrum stater coin. Hawley sought permission to fully examine it satisfactorily, and he sought assistance in stabilising Heelstone while investigating it, but neither were granted.[1] Office of Works, now Department for Culture, Media and Sport (Secretary): Jeremy Hunt; National Trust for Places of Historic Interest or Natural Beauty (Board of Trustees): Simon Jenkins, Sir Laurie Magnus Bt, Patrick Casement, Sir Crispin Davis, Richard Farrant, Sir Edward Greenwell, Charles Gurassa, Nichola Johnson, Sir Mark Jones, Adrian Phillips, Michael Quicke, Mary Villiers; Historic Building and Monuments Commission for England (Chair): Baroness Kay Andrews; (Commissioners): Lynda Addison, Maria Adebowale, Joyce Bridges, Manish Chande, Sir Barry Cunliffe, David Fursdon, Ronald Hutton, Jane Kennedy, John Walker, Elizabeth Williamson; (Chief Executive): Simon Thurley; (Executive Directors): Mark Pemberton, Edward Impey, Deborah Lamb, Keith Harrison; not interested in obtaining a satisfactory examination.

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    At this point you seem to just be quoting something else with little being provided to generate discussion on your alleged point that artifacts are being crushed. The latter portion of your second paragraph is a list of people in bureaucratic positions, not of the scholars Harold was asking for. He was referencing your opening sentence which starts with Book of Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation scholars...
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    Garry you seem to merely quoting from somewhere else. I hope your agenda isn't to prove the end of the world is upon us. If this is of legitimate archaeological interest, put your own interpretations or explain why you find it interesting, into the discussion. This is a science forum, either you interject some science and a bit of yourself, or this thread will be ejected.
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    Moving from Scientific Study of Religion.
    You have failed to support your contention of some connection between Stonehenge and the Book of Ezekiel, Daniel or Revelation. While there may be some interesting archaological facts here, you are not discussing them in any coherent manner, and certainly are not shedding any light on any religious beliefs which may be connected to Stonehenge.
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    Seven Spirits of G-D

    The Seven Spirits of G-D are the seven (7) portable Gold artifacts from
    Solomon's Temple (Hebrew: בית המקדש, transliterated Beit HaMikdash):

    the 1st Spirit — gold Mercy Seat;
    the 2nd Spirit — gold Ark of the Testimony;
    the 3rd Spirit — gold Table for the Shewbread;
    the 4th Spirit — gold Candlestick;
    the 5th Spirit — gold Ephod-Girdle;
    the 6th Spirit — gold Breastplate;
    the 7th Spirit — gold Altar of Incense.

    The Seven Spirits of G-D were originally inside Exodus' Tabernacle (Hebrew: משכן, transliterated Mishkan), also portable. In the Book of Exodus they are listed and described (Ex 25-40) and in the Book of Revelation they are mentioned four (4) times (Rev 1:4, 3:1, 4:5, and 5:6):

    Rev 1:4 - John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits of G-D which are before his throne;
    Rev 3:1 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of G-D, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
    Rev 4:5 - And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of G-D.
    Rev 5:6 - And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of G-D sent forth into all the earth.

    Book of Isaiah 11:2 scholars claim those seven (7)
    Spirits of G-D are the six (6) Spirits of the LORD:

    1 — the Spirit of wisdom;
    2 — the Spirit of understanding;
    3 — the Spirit of counsel;
    4 — the Spirit of might;
    5 — the Spirit of knowledge;
    6 — the Spirit of the fear of the LORD.

    Can't you Christians Count?

    G-D (Jewish)
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    Again I will ask, what are the names of the " Isaiah 11:2 scholars" you are referencing?
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    Thrilled to see you have returned, Gary!
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    Lamb = Altar of Burnt Offering:
    [Contains all Seven (7) Spirits]

    Cross-sections: Quadrant bearings;

    AA' (1979) C91 quadrant bearing; N 73 E
    BB' (1953) C36 quadrant bearing; S 67 E
    CC' (1923) C6 quadrant bearing; S 57 E
    DD' (1923) C6 quadrant bearing; South
    EE' (1923) C6 quadrant bearing; S 50 E
    FF' (1923) C6 quadrant bearings; S 2 W - S 22 E
    GG' (1923) C6 quadrant bearing; S 50 E
    HH' (1956) C51 quadrant bearing; S 63 E
    II' (1979) C91 quadrant bearings; S 71 E - S 34 E - S 71 E / S 71 E

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Denke View Post
    Lamb = Altar of Burnt Offering:
    [Contains all Seven (7) Spirits]
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    Heelstone Hound over Foxhole Trench


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    im still waiting for an answer to my questions...

    Andthe like button does not increase any thread stats that I know of so you dont need to "like" every comment on the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Denke View Post
    Heelstone Hound over Foxhole Trench


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    I see Cthulhu in the stone, does that mean its a Cthulhu stone also????
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    For those that do not know, Denke is an internet troll who makes a very, very strained connection between a Neolithic site on the Salisbury plain of Britain (Stonehenge) and biblical mythology. Never mind that these are two cultures that are spatially and temporally removed such that any "connection" must necessarily be invented from whole cloth.

    Denke never shows evidence only spurious links to mythology and photos of pareidolia or images invented from his mind and drawn on existing photos.

    Denke likes to flood forums with his "data" and links so that his google ranking is increased, but not a single post that I've ever seen has ever yielded useful data that is archaeologically sound.

    Most forums on the internet have long-since banned Denke's account, including this one. I suspect that with the change over to the new software, some of our previous "troll-gates" have been torn down.

    If his next post is not coherent and archaeologically sound, his gate will be repaired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker View Post
    For those that do not know, Denke is an internet troll who makes a very, very strained connection between a Neolithic site on the Salisbury plain of Britain (Stonehenge) and biblical mythology. Never mind that these are two cultures that are spatially and temporally removed such that any "connection" must necessarily be invented from whole cloth.

    Denke never shows evidence only spurious links to mythology and photos of pareidolia or images invented from his mind and drawn on existing photos.

    Denke likes to flood forums with his "data" and links so that his google ranking is increased, but not a single post that I've ever seen has ever yielded useful data that is archaeologically sound.

    Most forums on the internet have long-since banned Denke's account, including this one. I suspect that with the change over to the new software, some of our previous "troll-gates" have been torn down.

    If his next post is not coherent and archaeologically sound, his gate will be repaired.
    Consider that suggestion seconded.
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    Archaeology, Psychology, etc.

    Social Studies, like archaeology and psychology, are entertaining.
    Archaeologically Sound, not a physical science, however amusing.
    Social Workers, and all their posts, found likeable, and enjoyable.

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    This last post doesnt even make your usual amount of strained sense! What are you trying to even say here?
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