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  1. #1 Electricity - Ancestral Action 
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    I think the below page from a book i read about the history of electricity gives a really nice and simple explanation for the origion of life. Have a read. What do you think? Is it good science or pseudoscience?

    The metal atoms that exploded from distant stars were not alone when they landed on Earth, back in the era billions of years ago when our solar system was new. Floating along with them in deep space had been carbon and oxygen and many other elements.
    When those elements landed on the still-boiling Earth, only some of them fell deep beneath the surface. Many of the rest remained closer to the top, becoming part of landmasses and oceans, seafloors and swamps. Although they weren’t metals, an electric field was leaking out of them as well, produced from the charged electrons and nuclei of which they were made.
    Most of these non metals remained inert, stuck dully in their mountains and clays, but a few of them began to do something peculiar. The stretching electric field from their electrons made them writhe and twist and pull into strange configurations.
    The sun over the new planet was hot. Energy was absorbed. The contorted clusters of atoms twisted some more, causing others around them to contort as well. Most of the shapes fell apart, but a few of the configurations created others so similar that they had duplicated themselves.
    Life – built out of electric charges – had begun.
    -Electric Universe by David Bodanis


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    Pure unadulterated pseudoscience.

    First of all, in stellar cosmology, anything that is heavier than helium on the periodic table is called a metal, even carbon and oxygen.

    The reason the elements separated has to do with gravity. In the molten earth, the heavier elements, primarily Iron and Nickel and the siderophiles ("iron loving" elements) sank to the center. The lighter elements, which make up what we call rock, floated on top.

    Electric fields don't "leak out" of elements.

    The "Electric Universe" is pseudoscience


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    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorWayne
    First of all, in stellar cosmology, anything that is heavier than helium on the periodic table is called a metal, even carbon and oxygen.
    Very pedantic of you. Its not a cosmology book. Metal in laymans terms is not carbon or oxygen.

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    The reason the elements separated has to do with gravity.
    That is neither mentioned nor disputed.

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    Electric fields don't "leak out" of elements.
    Perhaps not literally "leak out". How about the word "emit" instead. Big Deal! The book is not written neccessarily in strict scientific language.

    But what about the science?
    How pseudoscientific is it to suggest that electric fields from clusters of atoms caused nearby clusters to contort as well. Sometimes effectively duplicating the atomic pattern?
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    Ok Thanks,
    That's a pity,
    i quite liked the simplicity of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by pedronaut View Post
    How pseudoscientific is it to suggest that electric fields from clusters of atoms caused nearby clusters to contort as well. Sometimes effectively duplicating the atomic pattern?
    Atoms and molecules are held together with electric fields, one of the four fundamental forces.

    Ionized matter (ie. plasma) consist of positive and negative ions that influence each other with electromagnetic fields. I am not sure what is meant by "Sometimes effectively duplicating the atomic pattern".
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