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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    Take the time to read the UPN and see its simplicity : ............ Http://www.TheRecipeForaNation.WordPress.com , future shocking .
    Would it make much difference anyway, I am finding it difficult following you as it is.
     

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    You have presented not the slightest bit of proof anywhere in this thread of 200 posts.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    About the Relativity theory , the UPN theory proves it wrong , right here in this thread ........... Matter of fact proving that the 'fabric' of the Universe is un-compressible immediately disqualifies the Relativity because the 'fabric' can not be stretched nor compressed as the Relativity claims . QED . ...................2.1 )* The extreme low viscosity of the SuperFluid ( SF ) , as a property necessary to satisfy the complete absence of Nothingness , means that the SF can and must Continuously fill the smallest possible 3-D volume/space but without disappearing ( Nothingness can not be created and Somethingness can not disappear or became nothingness ) . .................. 2.2 )* This means that the final space , the absolute smallest space that the SF can fill is Finite .The Logic says that if Somethingness is not Nothingness than it has , or it occupies* Space . Hence the smallest possible space is not an abstract number ( going towards minus infinite in Size ) but it is an extremely small *number representing the limit at which the SF can fill a space ( before it would ‘vanish’ becoming Nothingness which would be impossible since Nothingness can not be created nor Somethingness can became Nothingness ) . The difference between Somethingness and Nothingness is absolute ................. 2.3 )* This Smallest yet finite space also Explains the UN-compressibility of the SF : it can not be Squeezed any further , it can not became any smaller or disappear , hence it is Not Compressible . .............. Take the time to read the UPN and see its simplicity : ............ Http://www.TheRecipeForaNation.WordPress.com , future shocking .
    Relativity is not based on any fluid or solid, thus the term "incompressible" is meaningless in its context, and nothing at all is disproved.
    Your UPN on the other hand is based on a perfect solid without any possibility for any kind of processes to take place within it...I'll let the reader draw his/her own conclusions.
     

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    Geometrogenesis : “ Would it make much difference anyway, I am finding it difficult following you as it is. “ ......... Meteorwine : “ You have presented not the slightest bit of proof anywhere in this thread of 200 posts. “ ........ -------------- ............. Urod : Guys , don't be shy to post your arguments , so far it is clear you have the desire , now is time to Act ...... It's hard in the 21st century to dismis theories by Just stating that You do not understand them , except in Stand-up Comedy and as the audience can see there is no shortage around here ......... Here is another Fine example of people backing each other – up to say that a Liquid Homogeneous , with extreme low viscosity and non-compressible has No Properties ( Just How do you call what was described in Your English class ?? ) , While the other guy below claims that in an ultra low viscosity fluid NO Processes can exist !!! .... ... Tell that to the guys that operate heavy equipment/hydrolics and the researchers in super fluids and Measure their Laughter besides inviting the question " Do you own a bathtub ?? " : ..............
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    As far as I can tell from his description, the superfluid is an unbounded completely homogenous continuous block with absolutely no properties whatsoever.
    ................ Precisely. There are no internal degrees of freedom in such a substance, hence no processes can take place.
    ................ I had to repost those four people ( Observer , Meteorwine , Geometrogenesis and Marcus Hunk ) as Examples of what I have to put up with , wasting time ------ ,,, .......I have a feeling those four were not responsible for the four Hearts the thread got ---------- ............ Here again for your scrutiny the easy three Logic Steps proving that the 'Fabric' of the Universe is uncompressible : .... .......The UPN theory proves the Relativity wrong because the Relativity claims that Space can be shrunk/stretched ........... Therefore proving that the 'fabric' of the Universe is un-compressible immediately disqualifies the Relativity because the 'fabric' can not be stretched nor compressed as the Relativity claims . QED . ...................2.1 )* The extreme low viscosity of the SuperFluid ( SF ) , as a property necessary to satisfy the complete absence of Nothingness , means that the SF can and must Continuously fill the smallest possible 3-D volume/space but without disappearing ( Nothingness can not be created and Somethingness can not disappear or became nothingness ) . .................. 2.2 )* This means that the final space , the absolute smallest space that the SF can fill is Finite .The Logic says that if Somethingness is not Nothingness than it has , or it occupies* Space . Hence the smallest possible space is not an abstract number ( going towards minus infinite in Size ) but it is an extremely small *number representing the limit at which the SF can fill a space ( before it would ‘vanish’ becoming Nothingness which would be impossible since Nothingness can not be created nor Somethingness can became Nothingness ) . The difference between Somethingness and Nothingness is absolute ................. 2.3 )* This Smallest yet finite space also Explains the UN-compressibility of the SF : it can not be Squeezed any further , it can not became any smaller or disappear , hence it is Not Compressible .
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    ( Observer , Meteorwine , Geometrogenesis and Marcus Hunk )
    Urod, it is disrespectful to misquote/misspell people's names. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was done by accident.

    It's hard in the 21st century to dismis theories by Just stating that You do not understand them
    We understand perfectly well, thank you.

    Liquid Homogeneous , with extreme low viscosity and non-compressible has No Properties
    You forgot the "non-granular" bit; that's the really crucial part - a non-granular, non-compressible, inelastic material is a perfect solid. There you go, I said it again.

    as Examples of what I have to put up with , wasting time
    If you feel that way then why are you still here ?

    The UPN theory proves the Relativity wrong because the Relativity claims that Space can be shrunk/stretched
    ...which is experimentally well verified...

    it can not be Squeezed any further , it can not became any smaller or disappear , hence it is Not Compressible .
    ...thus making it impossible for things like waves and vortices to occur within it. Thank you.
     

  6. #206 BREAKING , Major : the Perpetual Source of Movement/Energy in the Universe Demonstrated ! 
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    Spontaneous movement in the non-granular SuperFluid , the Perpetual Source of both Movement ( energy ) and Matter in the Universe :Here is demonstrated that the non-granular SuperFluid ( SF , full details further ) , or the ‘ fabric ‘ of the Universe as you can also call it , is in continuous micro-motion behaving like a dynamo producing movement that represents the Fundamental Vortexes ( FV ) which are the fundamental source of energy in the Universe surrounding and happening non-stop all around us . ...... Those FVs are extremely small and weak . However , by association they can form the equivalent of Harmonics , amplifying their power collectively . ......... Talking about Spontaneous formation in a highly organized Shapes – a sphere in this example – I had witnessed a ' Ball or Globular Lighting ' the size of a soccer ball , seen from one and a half meters for some 10 seconds in a small and very quiet room as an early teen during a summer night electrical storm . It had the surface strikingly moving like the patterns on soap bubbles , with orange and red colors. That motion is still in my mind . ...........You have to see one to appreciate the silent spectacle of what appears as a threatening ball of fire but with a smooth , coloured matte surface swirling exactly as the patterns on a soap-bubble ( but not if full rainbow , only saturated and matte orange and reds , minor yellows ) . It puts in a GREAT perspective the notion of things appearing silently from nowhere ............... It also invites a though pondering how a 20 centimetres diameter ball Can appear and disappear without creating an air shock wave , as slight as it may be , in the 5 to 22,000 Hertz that was my healthy hearing then .It also did not radiate any heat and it barely moved .Over time ( million of years ) , by haphazard , the FVs can occur in a Harmonic , a pattern or formation that triggers the appearance of Bright Vortexes ( formerly named ' black holes ' ) . Hence they Must be very , very Tiny ! ........... ...........2.0 - The SuperFluid is continuously moving at its most fundamental level creating Perpetual Movement/Energy and Matter ............... In the UPN has been shown that the SuperFluid ( the ‘fabric’ of the Universe ) has an extreme low viscosity besides being UN-compressible and non-granular . The details are in the body of the UPN ................. The concept of Nothingness is as simple as realizing that the way we observe that it does not exist is by observing Somethingness . Hence if Nothingness doesn't exist Anywhere means that the Somethingness will be also present Anywhere , the infinity of the Universe . ..........Also , since this reality concerning Nothingness existed for ever so does the Somethingness proving the Universe has no beginning and no end , besides being endless .Hence we can guide the Logic Steps as follows : ............. 2.1 ) The extreme low viscosity of the SuperFluid ( SF ) as a property necessary to satisfy the complete absence of Nothingness means that the SF can and must Continuously fill the smallest possible 3-D volume/space but without disappearing ( Nothingness can not be created and Somethingness can not disappear or became nothingness ) . ............. 2.2 ) This means that the final space , the absolute smallest space that the SF can fill is Finite . The Logic says that if Somethingness is not Nothingness than it has , or it occupies Space . Hence the smallest possible space is not an abstract number ( going towards minus infinite in Size , i.e. Smaller , the Smallest , not negative space as someone interpret it ) but it is a number representing the smallest limit at which the SF can fill a space . ........... 2.3 ) This smallest yet finite space also Explains the UN-compressibility of the SF : it can not be Squeezed any further , it can not became any smaller , hence it is not compressible . This has many consequences concerning other properties and the Behaviour of the SF . ........ 2.4 ) The Non-Granular property of the SuperFluid ( SF ) or as we can call it the ' fabric ' of the Universe , is a key property that requires a moment to get used to . In essence being non-granular simply means there are No Pressure Points , no atoms or defined particles around that would act as such pressure points . ....... ... 2.5 ) Without pressure points , any pressure that may exist will be applied evenly around any 3-D micro-region/space in the SuperFluid . ............. 2.6 ) Under those circumstances if NO force what so ever , of any kind , would exist within the SuperFluid , every micro space at the smallest volume that the viscosity of the SF allows , would have No force applied around . We consider this scenario to prove the Movement in SF does not need a catalyst or a ‘kick-start’ , hence it doesn’t have a Beginning . .............. 2.7 ) If there is no force around the smallest volume that the SF can occupy , than that micro-volume would try to further lower its energy state by Trying to expand in all directions . ............. 2.8 ) This tendency for expansion at the smallest possible level/volume of the SuperFluid ( SF ) would happened instantaneously and through out the Universe . ............. 2.9 ) That instant tendency to expand ( under the circumstance describe above , No Force applied ) would be causing every micro-space to try to infringe on its vicinity , But because the SF is un-compressible and un-elastic the resulting Combined movement would be a simple localized vortex , the Mixing of micro-spaces in the SF , representing the Fundamental-Vortexes ( FV ) occurring through out the SF and the Universe ......... . 2.10 ) Those steps demonstrate that the properties of the fabric of the Universe , the SuperFluid , give creation Without Any Force Applied into the SF to micro vortexes that I would like to call Fundamental Vortexes , and which represent the Fundamental and Perpetual source of Movement ( Energy ) in the Universe . Their Harmonics further amplify their movement in many possible ways . ......... 2.11 ) The Reason I had demonstrated the occurrence of the Fundamental-Vortexes under the absence of Any energy/movement in the SuperFluid , is to show that the Universe doesn't need a Kick to 'start' and its properties makes it not Just a Self-Starter But equally important ... it can Not Stop , even without any energy applied it would still self-mix making it a true Perpetual source of Movement/energy . ............. 2.12 ) In conclusion , the combined properties of the fabric ( SuperFluid ) making up the Universe - its un-compressibility , its non-granular structure and its extreme low viscosity as proven in the UPN - together create the mechanism of continuously mixing it self and through out the Universe at the smallest possible scale , creating the Fundamental-Vortexes , the smallest possible vortexes , and therefore being the Perpetual source of Movement/energy in the Universe . ............. 2.13 ) This continuous movement is the Observed 2.7 Kelvin energy radiating throughout the Universe . Further more , over the endless existence of the Universe , the continuous occurrence of the Fundamental Vortexes ( FV ) guarantees the possibility of the FVs to occur in Harmonics , in Coincidences , giving birth to greater Movement and possibly in the shape of a Larger Vortex , which I would like to name the Bright Vortexes ( BV ) that we used to call Black Holes ( remember here the spontaneous and silent occurrence of Globular Lighting as I witness it myself to realize the absolute possibility of spontaneous occurrences – Harmonics ) . Please see their properties described in the UPN , mainly as vortexes spinning at the speed of light and spinning in turn the SuperFluid creating further Micro-Vortexes that represent what we call sub-sub- , - particles , the Fundamental Particles that we call Matter and Energy . See their description in the UPN . ............. 2.14 ) Finally , we have seen the explanation of how sub-sub-- particles form representing Matter , all from the continuous agitation within the SuperFluid and the resulting Harmonics due to its properties that also create the Perpetual motion forming continuously Fundamental Vortexes . Q.E.D. ........Note : as you see , Logic Step 2.3 proves the un-compressibility of the Fabric of the Universe which has Huge implications in the history of any ultra advanced specie .This property gives Real possibility to instantly know everything what's going on in the Universe And control it , as of-the-wall as it may sound ! .....................I described it in The Recipe for a Nation as The future of both Communications And Wars .................... The proper Format version is at UPNtheory.WordPress.com , sorry I have no control over the text formating in this forum .
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    Jeez, you still haven't figured out how to write a readable post????

    You SHOULD be ignored.

    And if you blame it on the site, your paranoia (which indicates a problem), and/or inability to resolve a simple problem ON YOUR END (since no one else has the problem) shows, well.... there just are no words I can say and stay here, so I won't.
     

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    Right. Somebody who can't find the return key on his computer keyboard isn't likely to discover the fundamental laws of nature.

    Urod, you can't just keep posting the same nonsense over and over. This is a discussion forum. If you can't find something new to say, I'll just lock this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold 14370 View Post
    .... Right. Somebody who can't find the return key on his computer keyboard isn't likely to discover the fundamental laws of nature. ....... Urod, you can't just keep posting the same nonsense over and over. This is a discussion forum. If you can't find something new to say, I'll just lock this thread. ...
    .............. ............ ------------ ..... Harold , I just posted the Source of Energy in the Universe ( in easy 12 Logic Steps ) so I Apologise if this is was Not New to you and therefore tooo boring , I am working right now to simplify it , but I can't find the Return key !! ... ....................... For everyone else please take ALL the ' comments ' provided by this gang ( Meteorwine , Observer , Strange Hunky , Harold-the-Mediator and Geometrogenesis , etc. ) , Versus the SuperFluid as the fabric of the Universe demonstrated by the UPN , and hear what the MIT folks have to say , let the 'gang' question those scientists ( notice the importance they give to the Particle Duality and their Quantum conection to a Fluid ) : ..... Can fluid dynamics offer insights into quantum mechanics? - MIT News Office ........... “ … Recently, Yves Couder, a physicist at Université Paris Diderot, has conducted a series of experiments in which millimeter-scale fluid droplets, bouncing up and down on a vibrated fluid bath, are guided by the waves that they themselves produce. ........ In many respects, the droplets behave like quantum particles, and in a recent commentary in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, John Bush, an applied mathematician at MIT who specializes in fluid dynamics, suggests that experiments like Couder’s may ultimately shed light on some of the peculiarities of quantum mechanics. .......... The wave-particle duality is best illustrated by a canonical experiment in quantum mechanics that’s generally referred to as the two-slit, or two-hole, experiment. As the theoretical physicist Richard Feynman ’39 once put it, “Any other situation in quantum mechanics, it turns out, can always be explained by saying, ‘You remember the case of the experiment with the two holes? It’s the same thing.’ … ” . ....... Please note that the UPN Does explain the wave-particle duality … and gravity , and black-holes , etc ... ........... I THANK YOU to the SIX HEARTS , you have NO idea what it means to me considering that I am SPAMED regularly by the 'gang ' and No kind words !! ..... Thank you and spread the word ....... better reading format at the UPNtheory.WordPress.com , the Original .
     

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    I'm damn tired of being called Meteorwine. Don't do it again.

    In fact deliberate distortion of usernames is rude.

    On the board where I was a mod, it would have gotten you a warning, a vacation, and a banning if necessary.

    How would you like it if I called you {self censored in advance}
    (Play around with the first two letter of your username and you can see where I could go)
     

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    Urod, the return/enter key is on your keyboard here circled in both green and red:Return.jpg To say you don't know where they are is NOT a good sign that you should be making statements about physics. Now that you ahve been shown where they are, USE them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    Versus the SuperFluid as the fabric of the Universe demonstrated by the UPN , and hear what the MIT folks have to say , let the 'gang' question those scientists l .
    You still don't get it, do you ?
    What "those scientists" are investigating are real superfluids. What you are proposing is neither "super", nor is it a "fluid", and it is most certainly not real. It is has nothing whatsoever to do with physical superfluids; therefore, if you want to keep deluding yourself by thinking that researches at MIT actually vindicate your model...well, go right ahead. On the other hand, if you are prepared to have a meaningful discussion, then take our word for it that your model in its current form doesn't work and take a serious look at the work others have done in the area of Superfluid Vacuum Theories. At the moment you are just repeating your own old phrases over and over again.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    notice the importance they give to the Particle Duality and their Quantum conection to a Fluid )
    So you think any time someone mentions the wave-particle duality, that supports your crackpot theory? That idea has been around since the 1800s.
    ........... I THANK YOU to the SIX HEARTS .
    Uh, no. The six "likes" are the total "likes" received by all posts on the thread. Nobody else is interested in your theory.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    I THANK YOU to the SIX HEARTS , you have NO idea what it means to me
    I suspect that you have no idea what it means: if you click on the "six hearts" button it lists the posts that people have "liked". Not surprisingly, none of them are yours.
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  15. #215 7 Dark Hearts , but there is light , all leads to a Superfluid : 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    I THANK YOU to the SIX HEARTS , you have NO idea what it means to me
    I suspect that you have no idea what it means: if you click on the "six hearts" button it lists the posts that people have "liked". Not surprisingly, none of them are yours.
    ....................... .. If all roads lead to Rome , than we should feel comfortable that eventually the UPN will be used to explain all , and I feel this is like bringing forward the Evidence : .... APS -2009 APS March Meeting - Event - Quantum fluid dynamics and superfluid behaviour of polaritons in microcavities ....... Abstract: T4.00004 : Quantum fluid dynamics and superfluid behaviour of polaritons in microcavities ------- March 18, 2009 .... Preview Abstract ..... Author : Daniele Sanvitto (Universidad Autonoma Madrid) ---------- _____ -------" .... One of the most striking effects of a moving polariton condensate is the observation of superfluid behaviour when crossing obstacles even at speeds only 100 times smaller than the speed of light [4]. .... " .........The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) | The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN )
     

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    Urod, use the enter key, not lots of periods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    If all roads lead to Rome , than we should feel comfortable that eventually the UPN will be used to explain all , and I feel this is like bringing forward the Evidence : .... APS -2009 APS March Meeting - Event - Quantum fluid dynamics and superfluid behaviour of polaritons in microcavities ....... Abstract: T4.00004 : Quantum fluid dynamics and superfluid behaviour of polaritons in microcavities ------- March 18, 2009 .... Preview Abstract ..... Author : Daniele Sanvitto (Universidad Autonoma Madrid) ---------- _____ -------" .... One of the most striking effects of a moving polariton condensate is the observation of superfluid behaviour when crossing obstacles even at speeds only 100 times smaller than the speed of light [4]. .... " .........The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) | The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN )
    None of this has anything to do with your "model". Yours isn't a superfluid, it's a perfect solid
     

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    UROD: Is there some reason you are incapable of using an ENTER key?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    UROD: Is there some reason you are incapable of using an ENTER key?
    His posting style is consistent with the hypothesis that he is not actually interested in a dialogue. He'd much rather that we all simply stand awe-struck by the majesty ofhisstreamofconsciousnesspoststhatarefreeofpunctu ationbecauseheistoodamnedfullofbrilliantideastoslo wdown. Making his posts easy to read would only be antithetical to that goal.
     

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    Guys, don't you read? It's a conspiracy. The owners of the site deliberately make it impossible for him to post in a readable manner. He's the only poster of the 22,155 members on the entire site that they do this to.
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    How about a simple paradox theory, in the future inteligent life advances to the point of understanding how everything in the universe works and could be created and actually creates the start of the universe in the past. This would solve the how, who and why the universe was created. It also solves god problem of, if god created the universe the who created god and who created him ect.... This would then only leave us with trying understand paradox theory which is considerably easier than than alternative.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    How about a simple paradox theory, in the future inteligent life advances to the point of understanding how everything in the universe works and could be created and actually creates the start of the universe in the past. This would solve the how, who and why the universe was created. It also solves god problem of, if god created the universe the who created god and who created him ect.... This would then only leave us with trying understand paradox theory which is considerably easier than than alternative.
    .......................... I agree that an unlimited Universe in both space and time ( as the UPN Proves it ) should provide the cradel for an Advanced Super Specie that altered it self to absolute perfection , see the essay in The Recipe ' the Advanced Alien Super Specie : the Dream Prison " ---------- ..... But the problem with that is WE were left unattended , something that is uncharacteristic of an Emphatic super specie ... What the UPN shows is the possibility to Communicate instanteniously over light years .... Please note how ALL Quantum experiments lead to the same conclusion : there is a SuperFluid involved , just as the UPN shows ... it's a matter of time before it will rewrite the school books and help solve all our problems ... Cheers !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus Hanke View Post
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    About the Relativity theory , the UPN theory proves it wrong , right here in this thread ........... Matter of fact proving that the 'fabric' of the Universe is un-compressible immediately disqualifies the Relativity because the 'fabric' can not be stretched nor compressed as the Relativity claims . QED . ...................2.1 )* The extreme low viscosity of the SuperFluid ( SF ) , as a property necessary to satisfy the complete absence of Nothingness , means that the SF can and must Continuously fill the smallest possible 3-D volume/space but without disappearing ( Nothingness can not be created and Somethingness can not disappear or became nothingness ) . .................. 2.2 )* This means that the final space , the absolute smallest space that the SF can fill is Finite .The Logic says that if Somethingness is not Nothingness than it has , or it occupies* Space . Hence the smallest possible space is not an abstract number ( going towards minus infinite in Size ) but it is an extremely small *number representing the limit at which the SF can fill a space ( before it would ‘vanish’ becoming Nothingness which would be impossible since Nothingness can not be created nor Somethingness can became Nothingness ) . The difference between Somethingness and Nothingness is absolute ................. 2.3 )* This Smallest yet finite space also Explains the UN-compressibility of the SF : it can not be Squeezed any further , it can not became any smaller or disappear , hence it is Not Compressible . .............. Take the time to read the UPN and see its simplicity : ............ Http://www.TheRecipeForaNation.WordPress.com , future shocking .
    ............... Your UPN on the other hand is based on a perfect solid without any possibility for any kind of processes to take place within it...I'll let the reader draw his/her own conclusions. ...

    ..... No , Markus , please , do not Distort the UPN .... it is based on a SuperFluid with a viscosity much lower than Air at one Atm. ... it is just as you 'feel' it in Space ! .... WHERE in The WORLD did you MISUnderstand the UPN at Such a DEGREE ??? ... LET ME HELP You , plz quote the Logic Step that guided you to that conclusion , thank you !.......
    .... Please Always refer to the Original UPN site for the Latest Updates but plz carry the duscussion Here on The Science Forum for best Focused coverage and ideas ! .... Thank you all !` and , again , I want to Stress how important it is to have Your Oppinion said here about the UPN , and when you do please Alway quote the Logic Step(s) you are Troubleshooting for the best communication .... and be Explicit and Detailed of Why you Reject that Logic Step ( NOT like Markus et al. who only 'drop' statements without any Logic step description - i.e. Where did he get a SOLID SuperFluid in the UPN ?? ) . ....
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    as the UPN Proves it
    It proves nothing. It says nothing.

    What the UPN shows is the possibility to Communicate instanteniously over light years .... Please note how ALL Quantum experiments lead to the same conclusion
    No it doesn't and no they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    as the UPN Proves it
    It proves nothing. It says nothing.

    What the UPN shows is the possibility to Communicate instanteniously over light years .... Please note how ALL Quantum experiments lead to the same conclusion
    No it doesn't and no they don't.

    And please start using proper formatting. I have already given you detailed instructions on how to sort this out......
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    ---------- I Just posted : .... and be Explicit and Detailed of Why you Reject that Logic Step ( NOT like Markus et al. who only 'drop' statements without any Logic step description - i.e. Where did he get a SOLID SuperFluid in the UPN ?? ) . .... -> and here is Strange dropping statements without Explaining !!! A Conspiracy ?? No ... just .... Pesticides ...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    NOT like Markus et al. who only 'drop' statements without any Logic step description - i.e. Where did he get a SOLID SuperFluid in the UPN ??
    He explained that in great detail and repeatedly. The fact you don't understand it is your problem.

    Now, about the use of paragraphs ...
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    Good question. I don't think anything new remains to be said here.
     

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    How about a simple paradox theory, in the future inteligent life advances to the point of understanding how everything in the universe works and could be created and actually creates the start of the universe in the past. This would solve the how, who and why the universe was created. It also solves god problem of, if god created the universe the who created god and who created him ect.... This would then only leave us with trying understand paradox theory which is considerably easier than than alternative.
    .......................... I agree that an unlimited Universe in both space and time ( as the UPN Proves it ) should provide the cradel for an Advanced Super Specie that altered it self to absolute perfection , see the essay in The Recipe ' the Advanced Alien Super Specie : the Dream Prison " ---------- ..... But the problem with that is WE were left unattended , something that is uncharacteristic of an Emphatic super specie ... What the UPN shows is the possibility to Communicate instanteniously over light years .... Please note how ALL Quantum experiments lead to the same conclusion : there is a SuperFluid involved , just as the UPN shows ... it's a matter of time before it will rewrite the school books and help solve all our problems ... Cheers !

    I find this idea that 'we were left unattended' interesting as I can't think that would be either logical or likely. Perhaps we could be just one of many planets under observation or even just only one evolution of humans to evolve. Even if none of these are correct the idea we are left unattended still might not fit. We might be being influenced, nutured or protected all the time without our knowledge, there may even be those that do know. It all leaves so many unanswered questions it is really difficult to truely postulate the idea that 'we were left unattended'.
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    How about a simple paradox theory, in the future inteligent life advances to the point of understanding how everything in the universe works and could be created and actually creates the start of the universe in the past. This would solve the how, who and why the universe was created. It also solves god problem of, if god created the universe the who created god and who created him ect.... This would then only leave us with trying understand paradox theory which is considerably easier than than alternative.
    .......................... I agree that an unlimited Universe in both space and time ( as the UPN Proves it ) should provide the cradel for an Advanced Super Specie that altered it self to absolute perfection , see the essay in The Recipe ' the Advanced Alien Super Specie : the Dream Prison " ---------- ..... But the problem with that is WE were left unattended , something that is uncharacteristic of an Emphatic super specie ... What the UPN shows is the possibility to Communicate instanteniously over light years .... Please note how ALL Quantum experiments lead to the same conclusion : there is a SuperFluid involved , just as the UPN shows ... it's a matter of time before it will rewrite the school books and help solve all our problems ... Cheers !
    I find this idea that 'we were left unattended' interesting as I can't think that would be either logical or likely. Perhaps we could be just one of many planets under observation or even just only one evolution of humans to evolve. Even if none of these are correct the idea we are left unattended still might not fit. We might be being influenced, nutured or protected all the time without our knowledge, there may even be those that do know. It all leaves so many unanswered questions it is really difficult to truely postulate the idea that 'we were left unattended'.
    I agree that it looks unlikely for us to be 'unattended' BUT the same infinity in time and space also allows for Accidents ( from glaciations to meteorites ) to happend that can RESET entire cultures and species , wipping the 'slate' clean ........ The UPN is a good example : how often is it Discovered in a Specie time-line ? ........... I am asking because the Real Unifying Theory of Nature MUST be Unique and ONLY ONE ... I am giving it as an example because it still satnds , none of the people who look at it could show anything wrong with the Logic Steps presented , and Boy , I had to put up , as this Thread proves , with people that think a SuperFluid is a .... Solid ! , and that Nothingness is a ... Philosophical item , .Cheers !
     

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    Celestial Bodies Alignment and Gravity ..................... Celestial Bodies Alignment did not caused an increase in Gravity along their line and the UPN easily explains it : as UPN showed that Gravity is a Wake in the SuperFluid generated by vortices ( matter ) is suddenly clear that a vortex generates a SPIRAL Wake , not linear , hence Gravity will Manifest and Act following this spiral motion . .................. Scientists ( not me ) can Calculate the Location AND Movement of those Gravitational Harmonics Hence Predicting Gravitational Tidal Waves , hence Major Tectonic events ............................................ Now we understand why such astro alignments did not caused earth quakes or the end of the world ( LOL at Maya 2012 ) ........................... Nature MUST be simple , and IT IS as the UPN shows it ...
     

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    and Boy , I had to put up , as this Thread proves , with people that think a SuperFluid is a .... Solid !
    Yes...inelastic and incompressible, and therefore a solid
     

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    Here it is again...has a cool ring to it
     

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    and Boy , I had to put up , as this Thread proves , with people that think a SuperFluid is a .... Solid !
    Yes...inelastic and incompressible, and therefore a solid [QUOTE]................ elasticity Physics. ......the property of a substance that makes it possible to change its length, volume, or shape in direct response to a force and to recover its original form upon the removal of a force. — elastic, adj.Markus , the SuperFluid described in the UPN is non-granular and in a un-compressible state so it has properties different in some ways than regular liquids . Obviously you didn't get so far in reading about it ........... so you are comparing oranges to apples , for a long time : the UPN SuperFluid can not change volume or lenght because it ocupies all there is in the Universe ( you can not creat More matter , you get it Markus , just like in high-school ) , but the SuperFluid can MIX into itself and spin also taking on a new Shape , a vortex .... Tell this to your bodies ..... Hey , it's safe to take a shower , no bricks will come out of it ! ....But you still were not able to show one single fault of the Logic Steps in the UPN , never mind that you still do not have any grasps on UPN generally .....Here , find something wrong with this ( excerpt from the UPN ) :# 7 : is Somethingness ( aka SuperFluid ) a Fluid or a Structured ( granular ) substance ?*7-1 : let’s keep in perspective that we never encountered in real life a Perfect ( non-granular ) fluid . All fluids we know are granular , made of ( atoms/subparticles) individual vortices of Somethingness . So the fluids we know are only exhibits of vortices Behavior but not a representation of what the Somethingness it self is made of ............7-2 : I am starting by quoting the ad-hoc Property # 6 , a Property of Somethingness derived from the Fundamental Law : it has to be Fine/small enough in structure to occupy Every space in the Universe in order that Nothingness will not exist . Its fine structure has to go towards negative infinity but without completely disappearing ( nothingness doesn’t exist and can not be created ) . ...................7-3 :* ‘granular’ implies a) a structure ( a centre and the outer defining surface of the granule , doesn’t matter if the centre touches it )* ..... b) The walls of the granules must fit to perfection to the walls of All the other surrounding granules in order to prevent Nothingness ..... c) If a bulk of granules move than their walls must change instantaneously to keep fitting the neighboring granules in order to prevent Nothingness . .............7-4 : Conclusion : considering the three points above – even though just point a) would have been enough – a Structure will Always be larger than a corresponding single component hence it can never be as small as the smallest possible Nothingness , hence the Fundamental Property ( ‘Law’ ) is broken ...... ***** Therefore the Somethingness must be non-granular but a super fluid without individual components . ****** Now we can add to the list Property # 7
     

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    Paragraphs are a commie lie.
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    The Apollo missions could have actually got to the moon if it weren't for those pesky paragraphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    elasticity Physics. ......the property of a substance that makes it possible to change its length, volume, or shape in direct response to a force and to recover its original form upon the removal of a force.
    You gave your substance not just one, but three fundamental characteristics :

    1. Inelastic AND
    2. Incompressible AND
    3. Non-granular

    The important bit is the word and. If you demand your substance to fulfill all three of these properties simultaneously, then you get a perfect solid. The important one is actually (2), incompressibility. You said yourself that the total volume is constant, so if it is incompressible, and at the same time constant in volume, then you cannot have any processes like waves and vortices. It's basic fluid dynamics.

    so it has properties different in some ways than regular liquids
    Easy way out ?!
     

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    [QUOTE=3. Non-granularQUOTE] ............. Do you Understand the non-granular property .... please read the UPN before replying ........ `````` ......... Besides explaining the Wave - Particle Duality , Gravity and Further proving the net conclusion in the UPN that we all are waves , vortexes and their harmonics , here the Gamma rays are found to also belong to these properties against previous believes : ......... ......... Red faces abound as boffins build gamma ray lens ? The Register ............" ... Red faces abound as boffins build gamma ray lens ..................Focusing on targets near and far By Iain Thomson in San Francisco ..... Posted in Science, 9th May 2012 20:04 GMT ..... Scientists have disproved a chunk of theoretical physics by building a series of lenses capable of focusing gamma rays. ........ A team at the Institut Laue-Langevin (ILL) research center used twin silicon wafers to bend a stream of gamma rays, something that had been thought to be impossible ........ The team posits, in an article in the Physical Review Letters, that by building more advanced silicon lenses, using gold and other highly refractive substances, gamma rays could be focused for the first time in a way similar to standard optics .... " , More ... ...... as always the Latest updates of the UPN are only found at the original wb site ...... UPNtheory.WordPress.com
     

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    please read the UPN before replying
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    [Besides explaining the Wave - Particle Duality , Gravity and Further proving the net conclusion in the UPN that we all are waves , vortexes and their harmonics , here the Gamma rays are found to also belong to these properties against previous believes
    No, Urod. Everybody already knew that gamma rays are electromagnetic radiation. If you are saying the UPN predicted that gamma rays can be focused, then why didn't you say so before it happened?
     

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    What is the attraction of the concept of vortexes have for cranks?
     

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    Yes. We understand it perfectly well.
     

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    If I understand what I gleaned from a quick browse of the initial post. UPN seeks to answer the question:

    "Why does something exist rather than nothing?"

    "Something" only exists from the relative perspective in which we mere mortals are hopelessly mired.

    If each existence in the cosmos was comprised of equally opposing interdependent qualitative values (binarily exemplified by [+1 and -1] within the realm of each existence rather than as separate and independent particles [+1] and anti-particles [-1]), then no matter its size, each existence would be a unique integral of null value.

    Then why does it have size?

    Size would only be a logical problem if the universe were finite, for any finite size compared to infinity yields a null value.

    From the perspective of an infinite universe, an infinity of "nulls" exists - and the size of each finite existence is also null.

    Like religion, contemporary science persists in the belief the universe began - that it was created. The conspicuous logic which destroys that mythology isn't exactly rocket science:

    Before something can change, before it can act or be acted upon, it must exist.

    This is a rather simple axiom, intrinsically self-evident since any who might dissent must believe in things that don't exist. Existence in the absence of change is possible, change in the absence of existence is not. The fact that existence is required in order for change to occur explicitly means cause and effect is a function of (derived from) the phenomenon of existence. The Universe didn't suddenly transform from a condition of non-existence into a state of physical being because existence isn't a condition or a state of being, it is the phenomenon of being, itself.

    Any hypothesis based on the assumption that the cosmos was created is flawed - and so are any further assumptions arising from the premise.
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    The UPN shows how Everything , waves and vortices ( sub-sub-particles ) are made of the same thing , the SuperFluid . ..............Today another confirmation for the UPN has been found which also goes against the Quantum theory : ............ ????2 research groups confirm neutrinos have substance after all - English .................... 2 research groups confirm neutrinos have substance after all .................... BY NOBUTARO KAJI STAFF WRITER2012/06/07KYOTO -- Where scientists once believed that neutrinos have no mass, two separate research groups on June 5 presented findings confirming that these tiny particles do have some substance, a game-changer in particle and astrophysics. ... Keep in mind that the UPN also explains the milestone Double-slit experiment confirming the particle-wave duality that is described in the UPN . On the other hand the present Quantum theory is nowhere near ... and continuously faults are found with it ( like the neutrino news ) . So , Which one is Pseudo science ? ..... Always read the UPN on its original website The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) | The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) but please come back here for discussions .
     

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    PARAGRAPHS!

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    No it doesn't.
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    Urod,
    Speaking of neutrinos, back in post #88 you were telling us how the UPN predicted neutrinos faster than light. Now we know that it was just a loose connector. Are you embarrassed about that at all?
     

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    Where scientists once believed that neutrinos have no mass, two separate research groups on June 5 presented findings confirming that these tiny particles do have some substance, a game-changer in particle and astrophysics
    We knew for a long time that neutrinos had to have mass, because of the phenomenon of flavor oscillation - this has been observed as far back as the 1960s. So how is this a "game changer" ?? All the Japanese team did was further establish an already known upper limit to that mass.
     

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    Breaking ! Actual Wording used in the Experiment Results Matches the UPN ! ................ Here , a wonderful and Precise Worded experiment result that calls for the UPN's ( Unconventional !!! ) SuperFluid that it is OBSERVED , And how lovely to see the UPN Fundamental Vortices showen in the described experiment ( Twistings ) . ................. This experiment shows : .. ,..,... - un Unconventional SuperFluid present at the foundation of matter , just as the UPN describes .............. - a Twisting aspect involved , just as the UPN describes both the Fundamental and Micro Vortexes . ......... - the Aknowladgement from the physiscists in the last paragraph below .. ...... No other theory explains this ! ......... Quantum phase transition to unconventional multi-orbital superfluidity in optical lattices : Nature Physics : Nature Publishing Group ............... Nature Physics | Letter ................. ----------------- .. : Quantum phase transition to unconventional multi-orbital superfluidity in optical lattices ................... Parvis Soltan-Panahi Dirk-Sören Lühmann Julian Struck Patrick Windpassinger Klaus Sengstock ......... : .. " .... Here, we report on the observation of a multi-orbital superfluid phase with a complex order parameter in binary spin mixtures . ........ In this Unconventional superfluid, the local phase angle of the complex order parameter is continuously twisted between neighbouring lattice sites ...... .... . The nature of this Twisted superfluid quantum phase is an interaction-induced admixture of the p-orbital contributions favoured by the graphene-like band structure of the hexagonal optical lattice used in the experiment ............ ......... We observe a second-order quantum phase transition between the normal superfluid and the twisted superfluid phase, which is accompanied by a symmetry breaking in momentum space. ................. //////////// ..... The experimental results are consistent with calculated phase diagrams and reveal fundamentally new aspects of orbital superfluidity in quantum gas mixtures ............. . ... Our studies might bridge the gap between conventional superfluidity and complex phenomena of orbital physics ... " .... more ... ..... Please always check the latest UPN at the original site .
     

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    Breaking ! Actual Wording used in the Experiment Results Matches the UPN !
    How about the maths? Does that match yours?

    Oh no, that's right, you have the same problem with mathematics as you do with paragraph breaks.

    FAIL.
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    Breaking ! Actual Wording used in the Experiment Results Matches the UPN !
    How about the maths? Does that match yours ? ..............Oh no, that's right, you have the same problem with mathematics as you do with paragraph breaks.FAIL.
    ............... .... Think again , the Nature article mentioned the corelation of the Observed experimental Results And the Math --- i.e. READ Article First Before oppinionating ..... BTW , I'm telling you again , the " Return " key is disabled by the Forum software --- Return = Nul " ...../ ..... ..... For the .math. obssesed folks , PLEASE , use the UPN and show me your skills ! .... ....... : ....... Breaking ! Actual Wording used in the Experiment Results Matches the UPN ! ................ Here , a wonderful and Precise Worded experiment result that calls for the UPN's ( Unconventional !! the UPN non-granular SuperFluid !! ) SuperFluid that it is OBSERVED , And how lovely to see the UPN Fundamental Vortices showen in the described experiment ( Twistings ) . ................. This experiment shows : .. ,..,... - un Unconventional SuperFluid present at the foundation of matter , just as the UPN describes .............. - a Twisting aspect involved , just as the UPN describes both the Fundamental and Micro Vortexes . ......... - the Aknowladgement from the physiscists in the last paragraph below .. ...... No other theory explains this ! ......... Quantum phase transition to unconventional multi-orbital superfluidity in optical lattices : Nature Physics : Nature Publishing Group ............... Nature Physics | Letter ................. ----------------- .. : Quantum phase transition to unconventional multi-orbital superfluidity in optical lattices ................... Parvis Soltan-Panahi Dirk-Sören Lühmann Julian Struck Patrick Windpassinger Klaus Sengstock ......... : .. " .... Here, we report on the observation of a multi-orbital superfluid phase with a complex order parameter in binary spin mixtures . ........ In this Unconventional superfluid, the local phase angle of the complex order parameter is continuously twisted between neighbouring lattice sites ...... .... . The nature of this Twisted superfluid quantum phase is an interaction-induced admixture of the p-orbital contributions favoured by the graphene-like band structure of the hexagonal optical lattice used in the experiment ............ ......... We observe a second-order quantum phase transition between the normal superfluid and the twisted superfluid phase, which is accompanied by a symmetry breaking in momentum space. ................. //////////// ..... The experimental results are consistent with calculated phase diagrams and reveal fundamentally new aspects of orbital superfluidity in quantum gas mixtures ............. . ... Our studies might bridge the gap between conventional superfluidity and complex phenomena of orbital physics ... " .... more ... ..... Please always check the latest UPN at the original site .
     

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    Bull, the return key works just fine on the forum, as shown by every other poster that posts.

    You need to figure out whats happening on YOUR computer rather then blaming the forum.
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    This thread is heading for trash, since the OP is unable to communicate like everyone else on the forum (22,777 members)
     

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    BTW , I'm telling you again , the " Return " key is disabled by the Forum software
    People have tried to assist you with this in the past (as you are clearly not able to figure it out for yourself) . You have either ignored them or made stupid jokes. The problem is with you not the forum. What type of system are you using to post to the forum?

    One last attempt:

    Go to the settings page: http://www.thescienceforum.com/profi...do=editoptions

    Scroll down to "Message Editor Interface" and change the setting to "Basic" or "Standard". This should fix your problem.
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    un Unconventional SuperFluid present at the foundation of matter
    You do realize that the described experiments deal with condensed matter systems and optical lattices, right ?
    This has nothing whatsoever to do with non-granular, inelastic and incompressible solids supposedly forming fundamental particles via vortices. The article deals with a completely different subject, namely condensed matter.
    Your attempts to see confirmation of your delusions in every article that mentions the word "superfluid" is truly hilarious, particularly from a guy who can't even find the return key on his keyboard
     

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    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
     

  64. #264 I do not chose to not use the Return key , said that many times 
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
    John , please look above at Your Reply as posted by the software : it looks like you are NOT using Paragraphs Neither !!

    As I said before MANY times and pointed to Harold asking foe help with this issue , when I post the software used by this forum disregards my usage of the Return key so I can separate paragraphs ........

    The proof is in the Other Science forum where my posts are just right , hence it Must be a problem with This Forum software . BTW , this started happening just after this forum went down for a day last year Coincidence ??

    John , if YOU can not fix it then I can accept to Re-register, unless you want to ban me, but why would you?

    Here look at my posts in the other forum , no problem with paragraphs : A New View To The Unyfing Theory Of Nature , Upn - Hypography Science Forums .Also I hope that realizing that this software messes up your posts as well in the Reply-Quote will satisfy that I do not do it intentionally !

    Please let me know , thank you !

    OH , BTW , talking shop , John , Which Logic Step in the UPN is wrong ( please be specific just like a scientist by giving reason ) , thank you ! ( Of course , if you don`t reply I`ll take that you did not find anything wrong with the UPN , HENCE , WHY would you ban it .... ) . I mean , John , you would have NO problem to show fault with Non-Sense as you disrespectfully addressed me and the UPN , and if you are overwhelmed aproach it alphabetically . Just make sure to provide an explanation and cite the Logic Step , I mean just like in a science forum where `I don`t like it `doesn`t cut it.


    Post edited by moderator (John Galt) to insert paragraphs and incidentally remove some random capitlisation and some pointless little sets of points......
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    The fact is, it is just you that has this problem. Thus its not a forum software issue.

    Have you TRIED the advice strange has given you at least three times now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    The fact is, it is just you that has this problem. Thus its not a forum software issue.Have you TRIED the advice strange has given you at least three times now?
    Please read my reply to John-the-moderator about the on-going issue with the Return key that doesn`t work for me in this forum .
     

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    What do you think I have been doing? I have read the full thread and I not that you have not once stated any attempt to fix the problem using the suggested methodology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
    John , please look above at Your Reply as posted by the software : it looks like you are NOT using Paragraphs Neither !!
    Naturally. It was a one paragraph post.

    If it had been a two paragraph post it might have looked different.

    Do you get my drift?

    Now, I'm going back into your post to edit in the paragraphs. I've left the original below.


    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
    John , please look above at Your Reply as posted by the software : it looks like you are NOT using Paragraphs Neither !! As I said before MANY times and pointed to Harold asking foe help with this issue , when I post the software used by this forum disregards my usage of the Return key so I can separate paragraphs ........ The proof is in the Other Science forum where my posts are just right , hence it Must be a problem with This Forum software . BTW , this started happening just after this forum went down for a day last year .... Coincidence ?? ....... John , if YOU can not fix it then I can accept to Re-register .... unless you want to ban me ..... but Why would you ........ Here look at my posts in the other forum , no problem with paragraphs : A New View To The Unyfing Theory Of Nature , Upn - Hypography Science Forums ................ Also I hope that Realizing that this software Messes up Your posts as well in the Reply-Quote will satisfy that I do not do it intentionally ! Please let me know , thank you ! ...... OH , BTW , talking shop , John , Which Logic Step in the UPN is wrong ( please be specific just like a scientist by giving reason ) , thank you ! ( Of course , if you don`t reply I`ll take that you did not find anything wrong with the UPN , HENCE , WHY would you ban it .... ) . I mean , John , you would have NO problem to show fault with Non-Sense as you disrespectfully addressed me and the UPN , and if you are overwhelmed aproach it alphabetically . Just make sure to provide an explanation and cite the Logic Step , I mean just like in a science forum where `I don`t like it `doesn`t cut it ...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    As I said before MANY times and pointed to Harold asking foe help with this issue , when I post the software used by this forum disregards my usage of the Return key so I can separate paragraphs ........
    Have you tried to solve the problem? No.
    Have you told us what hardware/software you are using so we can help you solve the problem? No.
    Have you come up with a "theory of everything"? No.

    unless you want to ban me, but why would you?
    Don't tempt him...
    Here look at my posts in the other forum , no problem with paragraphs
    I note that everyone there is telling you that your "theory" is nonsense as well. Do you begin to see a common theme?

    Which Logic Step in the UPN is wrong
    All of them. Especially the math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
    John , please look above at Your Reply as posted by the software : it looks like you are NOT using Paragraphs Neither !!
    Naturally. It was a one paragraph post.If it had been a two paragraph post it might have looked different.Do you get my drift?Now, I'm going back into your post to edit in the paragraphs. I've left the original below.
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
    John , please look above at Your Reply as posted by the software : it looks like you are NOT using Paragraphs Neither !! As I said before MANY times and pointed to Harold asking foe help with this issue , when I post the software used by this forum disregards my usage of the Return key so I can separate paragraphs ........ The proof is in the Other Science forum where my posts are just right , hence it Must be a problem with This Forum software . BTW , this started happening just after this forum went down for a day last year .... Coincidence ?? ....... John , if YOU can not fix it then I can accept to Re-register .... unless you want to ban me ..... but Why would you ........ Here look at my posts in the other forum , no problem with paragraphs : A New View To The Unyfing Theory Of Nature , Upn - Hypography Science Forums ................ Also I hope that Realizing that this software Messes up Your posts as well in the Reply-Quote will satisfy that I do not do it intentionally ! Please let me know , thank you ! ...... OH , BTW , talking shop , John , Which Logic Step in the UPN is wrong ( please be specific just like a scientist by giving reason ) , thank you ! ( Of course , if you don`t reply I`ll take that you did not find anything wrong with the UPN , HENCE , WHY would you ban it .... ) . I mean , John , you would have NO problem to show fault with Non-Sense as you disrespectfully addressed me and the UPN , and if you are overwhelmed aproach it alphabetically . Just make sure to provide an explanation and cite the Logic Step , I mean just like in a science forum where `I don`t like it `doesn`t cut it ...
    Here I reply to your post keeping in mind that Your response looked good with spacings .Here , I will press the Return key twice :How is this ?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
    John , please look above at Your Reply as posted by the software : it looks like you are NOT using Paragraphs Neither !!
    Naturally. It was a one paragraph post.If it had been a two paragraph post it might have looked different.Do you get my drift?Now, I'm going back into your post to edit in the paragraphs. I've left the original below.
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Moderator Warning: Urod, if you were posting something of value I might be prepared to tolerate the lack of paragraphs. However, you are posting nonsense. If your next post lacks paragraphs I intend to ban you for one week. If you return after that without paragraphs I shall recommend to the mod team we ban you permanently. Your choice.
    John , please look above at Your Reply as posted by the software : it looks like you are NOT using Paragraphs Neither !! As I said before MANY times and pointed to Harold asking foe help with this issue , when I post the software used by this forum disregards my usage of the Return key so I can separate paragraphs ........ The proof is in the Other Science forum where my posts are just right , hence it Must be a problem with This Forum software . BTW , this started happening just after this forum went down for a day last year .... Coincidence ?? ....... John , if YOU can not fix it then I can accept to Re-register .... unless you want to ban me ..... but Why would you ........ Here look at my posts in the other forum , no problem with paragraphs : A New View To The Unyfing Theory Of Nature , Upn - Hypography Science Forums ................ Also I hope that Realizing that this software Messes up Your posts as well in the Reply-Quote will satisfy that I do not do it intentionally ! Please let me know , thank you ! ...... OH , BTW , talking shop , John , Which Logic Step in the UPN is wrong ( please be specific just like a scientist by giving reason ) , thank you ! ( Of course , if you don`t reply I`ll take that you did not find anything wrong with the UPN , HENCE , WHY would you ban it .... ) . I mean , John , you would have NO problem to show fault with Non-Sense as you disrespectfully addressed me and the UPN , and if you are overwhelmed aproach it alphabetically . Just make sure to provide an explanation and cite the Logic Step , I mean just like in a science forum where `I don`t like it `doesn`t cut it ...
    Here I reply to your post keeping in mind that Your response looked good with spacings .Here , I will press the Return key twice :How is this ?
    OK John , this is proof beyound the shadow of a doubt that ALL replies filtered through my post get the Return/New-Line key disabled ! ( I am pressing Return now ) .So John , what do you suggest ? Obviously I don't have this probleme ANYWHERE else !
     

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    And No One else has that problem here.
     

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    Urod,

    IIRC, you've never answered the questions..

    What OS do you use (with version #)?

    What Browser do you use (with version #)?

    Do you type right in the text box, or do you write it in another program and then copy and paste? If so, what do you type it it?
     

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    Urod, have you tried posting from a different computer?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    OK John , this is proof beyound the shadow of a doubt that ALL replies filtered through my post get the Return/New-Line key disabled ! ( I am pressing Return now ) .So John , what do you suggest ? Obviously I don't have this probleme ANYWHERE else !
    Have you tried doing anything to diagnose or fix the problem? (I'm assuming from your "theory" that you must be smart enough to do this.)
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  77. #277 Thank you for your help guys , I appreciate it ! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorWayne View Post
    Urod,IIRC, you've never answered the questions..What OS do you use (with version #)?What Browser do you use (with version #)?Do you type right in the text box, or do you write it in another program and then copy and paste? If so, what do you type it it? ...
    ..... also from Harold : " ... Urod, have you tried posting from a different computer? " .... Wayne , Harold , Strange , all , Thank you for taking the time to help ! ( Return key pressed ) ........... I did post from two computers one with Vista and the other runs Home XP , same result . .... I also tryed like Wayne suggested to Copy/Paste And to type straight , no difference ! .... What worries me the most is that in the winter 2012 , month after the Forum black-out and when I lost my Return key , I signed under a diff Nick BUT my postings suffered of the same problem ! ... Must be the same virus that downed the Forum late last year .... Oh well ,, .... but guys PLEASE , besides Thanking you for your good intentions .... I LOVE to have you on bord and keep criticizing the UPN in a constuctive way ................ Here , for starters ,... just like you I drulled at finding/extracting the very first Numbers and/or Formula from the UPN : I believe I have the first target , please Join in : if you read the 2.* Logic Steps it proves that the SuperFluid has a Limitation in the Smalest possible Space that it can occupy ..... this limitation also proves that the SuperFluid is un-compressible ..... SO , Wayne , Harold , ALL , please I suggest this Smallest Space that the SF can occupy to by the very first Concrete Njumber ! ..... Let's do it guys , more brains are better ! ... Cheers all !
     

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    the SuperFluid has a Limitation in the Smalest possible Space that it can occupy
    Since it's non-granular, there is obviously no lower limit. Apart from the fact that it's actually a solid, of course...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    ..... also from Harold : " ... Urod, have you tried posting from a different computer? " .... Wayne , Harold , Strange , all , Thank you for taking the time to help ! ( Return key pressed )
    Have you tried changing the Editor settings (as suggested several times)?

    Must be the same virus that downed the Forum late last year
    Have you got anti-virus software?
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  80. #280 Here a concrete test for anyone : 
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    Here , something concrete that you can participate in , please : ....... The UPN describes Gravity as the suction action of vortexes spinning the SuperFluid ( that makes the Universe ) , those vortexes representing sub-sub-particles and Bright Vortexes ( aka Black Holes ) . ...... If gravity is a spiralling wake stirred by vortexes in the SuperFluid than take a look at this graph depicting gravity changes during an obstruction of gravity by the Moon during a solar eclipse . ........... See the graph entitled “ 1970 Solar Eclipse as "Seen" by a Torsion Pendulum “ locate close to the start of the page . ............... The question : does that graph represent the behaviour of spiralling gravity action similar to a wake created by a vortex in a fluid ? ................. At least that is what the UPN concludes , and if you agree based on that graph than you have many reasons to feel confident about the UPN and consider its Logic Steps as proof ........... Gravity Anomalies
     

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    The UPN describes Gravity as the suction action of vortexes
    I knew there'd be vortexes. There are always vortexes sucking things down.
     

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    The UPN theory just sucks.
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    @ Strange and Alex.
    Disclaimer: I do not declare myself to be an expert on ANY subject. If I state something as fact that is obviously wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me. I welcome such corrections in an attempt to be as truthful and accurate as possible.

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  84. #284 Kalster , not clear if you were loughing With or At Strange / Alex ( No Explanation provided ) 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
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    ............ REPLY : ..... Kalster , not clear if you were loughing With or At Strange / Alex ( No Explanation provided ! , please do so to be able to appreciate the Logic ) ..... < RETURN key > ............. -------- >>> 1.0 - Extracting from the UPN the size of the smallest volume that the viscosity of the SuperFluid allows it to fill . .................... 1.1 - The lead to this size is based on the property of the SuperFluid to spontaneously Mix/agitate itself at the absolute Micro level without the need of any forces ( all proofs in the Logic Steps , please see UPNtheory.WordPress.com ) . .......................... 1.2 - This property has to be also present in the smallest achievable volume that the SuperFluid can occupy . This 'smallest' volume will hence dictate the size of the smallest possible basic Vortex , the Fundamental Vortexes FV as called in the UPN ................. .. 1.3 - Those FVs will also emit the shortest wave-length vibrations but with very small power ( movement ).................... 1.4 - this continuous appearance of FVs everywhere will also produce on occasion ( rarely ) Harmonics of increasing intensity , the precursors of the Bright Vortexes ( formerly known as Black Holes .......................... Conclusions : ....... a) such ultra-short length waves of extreme low intensity should be observable . .............. b) further , Burst of energy/movement should be observable throughout the Universe including Outside of galaxies ..................... ------>>> ............ Cosmic Microwave Background - FAQs “ .... ................ The observed CMB spectrum is in fact better than the best blackbody spectrum we can make in a laboratory ! So it is very hard to imagine that the CMB comes from emission from any normal "stuff" (since if you try to make "stuff" at some temperature, it will tend to either emit or absorb preferentially at particular wavelengths) . ................ The only plausible explanation for having this uniform radiation, with such a precise blackbody spectrum, is for it to come from the whole Universe at a time when it was much hotter and denser than it is now..... “ .
     

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    Down and Down It Goes,
    Round and Round It goes.
    In a spin, loving the spin that It's in.
    Under that old black magic called love UPN

    My apologies to Louis Prima.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    The lead to this size is based on the property of the SuperFluid to spontaneously Mix/agitate itself at the absolute Micro level without the need of any forces
    Yeah, it might conceivably be doing that if it wasn't a perfect solid...
     

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    [QUOTE=Markus Hanke;334491]
    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    The lead to this size is based on the property of the SuperFluid to spontaneously Mix/agitate itself at the absolute Micro level without the need of any forces
    Yeah, it might conceivably be doing that if it wasn't a perfect solid... QUOTE] ....... Water , uncompressible , ( non elastic since it occupies whatever space availabe NOT returning to a Given shape ) , locked in a solid cube with no air left ...... CAN the Laminar Flow allows the water to move/agitate/mix within ?? .... You bet . so does the UPN SuperFluid .... Questions , Hanke ? .... Why is that YOU and the Rest Never address JUST ONE SINGLE Logic Step in the UPN and prove it wrong ? ... Just One single Logic Step , please , at a time ....
     

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    Another Breaking Observation supporting the UPN : More Waves at the Atomic level , just as the UPN proves the Universe is ( go to web site to see The picture And the Atomic Waves ) :http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07...om_shadow/Take a look at atom’s shadowGriffith University boffins ‘see’ ytterbiumBy Richard Chirgwin • Get more from this authorPosted in Physics, 3rd July 2012 21:34 GMTThis image is special, according to Griffith University: it’s the first time anyone’s captured the shadow of a single ytterbium atom, at optical wavelengths (images of single atoms are much easier to capture using scanning electron microscopes) ... more and The picture ....http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07...tom_shadow/UPN :The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) | The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN )
     

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    When are we going to stop the spamming of UPN links? Every post is by urod is "you dont understand, please read about it here:LINK" and its getting rather annoying.
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    Every post is by urod is "you dont understand, please read about it here:LINK" and its getting rather annoying.
    I know!

    Most of those links are about other things that demonstrate UPN only if you read them right. We haven't been issued our UPN glasses, not as pretty as those rose-coloured ones but essential for this project.

    So we can ignore all this guff until our certified, guaranteed, attractively framed, all-UPN-comprehending reading glasses in a sturdy, compact case turn up in the post.
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    [QUOTE=Urod;335257]
    Quote Originally Posted by Markus Hanke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    The lead to this size is based on the property of the SuperFluid to spontaneously Mix/agitate itself at the absolute Micro level without the need of any forces
    Yeah, it might conceivably be doing that if it wasn't a perfect solid... QUOTE] ....... Water , uncompressible , ( non elastic since it occupies whatever space availabe NOT returning to a Given shape ) , locked in a solid cube with no air left ...... CAN the Laminar Flow allows the water to move/agitate/mix within ?? .... You bet . so does the UPN SuperFluid .....
    Water is not incompressible, nor is it non-granular.
    Your proposed fluid is incompressible, non-granular, and inelastic. Thus it is a perfect solid.

    Questions , Hanke ? .... Why is that YOU and the Rest Never address JUST ONE SINGLE Logic Step in the UPN and prove it wrong ?
    That's because your model is so ridiculous that no one is taking it seriously. You might as well have said the universe is filled with pink unicorns.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    Every post is by urod is "you dont understand, please read about it here:LINK" and its getting rather annoying.
    I know!Most of those links are about other things that demonstrate UPN only if you read them right. We haven't been issued our UPN glasses, not as pretty as those rose-coloured ones but essential for this project. So we can ignore all this guff until our certified, guaranteed, attractively framed, all-UPN-comprehending reading glasses in a sturdy, compact case turn up in the post. ...
    ............... Of course , and Your ARGUMENTS are Where ??? That's the Type of 'science' you perform , " I don't like it " LOL ... come back with arguments and refer to the Numbered Logic Steps that will help you Focus so you'll not need 'glasses' ....... BTW , the SuperFluid inelastic , non-granular and un-compressible is NOT a solid : 1) Non-granular means there are no pressure Points such as sub-particles or atoms , hence it does Not impede the flow of the SuperFluid in contrary it FAcilitates the flow ! ..... 2) Unelastic , so it's not changing Volume by stretching , so it has nothing to do with the Flow , hence it does Not impede the Flow ...... 3 ) un-compresible , that doesn't mean the SuperFluid can not Mix or Agitate within since Mixing is CHANGING PLACES and is Not impeded by uncompressibility ....... But that's Kindergarten stuff ...... Until than , take a look ( no glasses needed ) to this picture in the news and Observe the gentle spiral emerging from the shadow of that atom , just as the UPN describes Gravity : ..... Griffith University | News
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    [QUOTE=Markus Hanke;335295]
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    The lead to this size is based on the property of the SuperFluid to spontaneously Mix/agitate itself at the absolute Micro level without the need of any forces
    Yeah, it might conceivably be doing that if it wasn't a perfect solid... QUOTE] ....... Water , uncompressible , ( non elastic since it occupies whatever space availabe NOT returning to a Given shape ) , locked in a solid cube with no air left ...... CAN the Laminar Flow allows the water to move/agitate/mix within ?? .... You bet . so does the UPN SuperFluid .....
    Water is not incompressible, nor is it non-granular. Your proposed fluid is incompressible, non-granular, and inelastic. Thus it is a perfect solid.
    Questions , Hanke ? .... Why is that YOU and the Rest Never address JUST ONE SINGLE Logic Step in the UPN and prove it wrong ?
    That's because your model is so ridiculous that no one is taking it seriously. You might as well have said the universe is filled with pink unicorns. ...
    ........ No , Hanke , the reason is because you didn't and you just can't take ONE SINGLE Logic Step and prove it wrong , That's why ! ..... Otherway you would be ALL Over it , but you just CAN'T ! ...... Of course , I need to Explain to you the Obvious about your misconception regarding the SuperFluid in UPN : it's not a solid , here is why : ....... the SuperFluid inelastic , non-granular and un-compressible is NOT a solid : . . . 1) Non-granular means there are no pressure Points such as sub-particles or atoms , hence it does Not impede the flow of the SuperFluid in contrary it FAcilitates the flow ! ..... . . 2) Unelastic , so it's not changing Volume by stretching , so it has nothing to do with the Flow , hence it does Not impede the Flow ...... . . . 3 ) un-compressible , that doesn't mean the SuperFluid can not Mix or Agitate Within because Mixing is CHANGING PLACES and is Not impeded by uncompressibility ....... Hence the SUperFluid is not a solid ! .... QED ...... Until you figure out that , take a look at this picture in the news and Observe the tight spiral emerging from the shadow of that atom , just as the UPN describes Gravity : ........ Griffith University | News.....
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  94. #294 Gravity captured in picture along with the shadow of an atom ? 
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    Gravity captured in picture along with the shadow of an atom ? ........................ ---- ............... Take a close look at this historical picture showing the shadow of an atom . .......... Look at the tight spiral emerging from the centre of the atom keeping in mind this is more of a two-dimensional picture , a slice through the shadow projection . . . . . . . . . . . Keep in mind , Circles are easier to explain as diffraction, etc , BUT Spirals are not that easy ! . . . . . . . . This spiral is what the Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) theory describes as Gravity ! . . . . . . . . . . Gravity is a Wake generated by a spinning Vortex ( the Atom / sub-particles ) travelling in the same SuperFluid that everything is made of and we call the Universe ( including the Vortex/atom and Gravity - simplicity at extreme , ONLY One Component makes up the Universe , the SuperFluid , hence all phenomenon in the Universe can only be the kind that can occur in a fluid : Waves , Vortexes and their Harmonics as Amplifiers and Field phenomenons ) . . . . . . . . . . . See the tight spiral here emerging from the atom , could it be as the UPN describe it , the Wakes of Gravity ( a two dimensional view of the actual three-D spheroid appearance of the Gravity Wakes ) : .... Griffith University | News . . . . . . . . . And the equipment schematic ( notice the circular – not spiral – waves as the artists interpretation ) : . . . . Take a look at atom?s shadow ? The Register . . . . The UPN theory : ... The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) | The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) . . . . . . . . . P.S. : Here is a Test regarding this : bring the tip of an Atomic Force Microscope close enough and Observe how it interacts with that spiral under Both conditions : applying a Charge and no-charge .
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    Non-granular means there are no pressure Points such as sub-particles or atoms
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    Unelastic , so it's not changing Volume by stretching so it has nothing to do with the Flow
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    un-compressible
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    Perfect solid !

    Thank you Urod. About time you finally realized your delusion.
    And with this I agree with AlexG - put this thread out of its lingering misery.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus Hanke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Urod View Post
    Non-granular means there are no pressure Points such as sub-particles or atoms
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    Unelastic , so it's not changing Volume by stretching so it has nothing to do with the Flow
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    un-compressible
    =Perfect solid !Thank you Urod. About time you finally realized your delusion.And with this I agree with AlexG - put this thread out of its lingering misery.
    Are you so desperate so to make a joke of logic and known laws of physics ?? Yes you are !! it is Sttuning to see such Nonsense posted on a physiscs forum and on top supported by a handfull of anonymous .......... Water is un-elastic yet it Flows ! ..... It is also Almost un-compressible yet it flaws !! ........ Non-granular , well Hanky if you still don;t not understand non-granular ASK , or , if not asking , HOW can you have an oppinion , YET , remember this , non-granular SPEEDs the Flaw .... HENCE the SuperFluid with all those qualities is a FLUID , Hanky , not my fault you don't understand the obvious But I understand your Misery and is amusing because there is Nothing you can do to change it ! NOR me , LOL !! .......
     

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    Here is another observation that is confirmed by the UPN : black-holes ( Bright Vortexes in UPN for good reason , explained ) can differ in size and , further , they can Couple to form spheroid shaped fields as observed in the Sun . ........ Only UPN can explain : .......... 1) the Varying Shaped Orbits of stars very near the centre of galaxies ( the coupled black holes / Bright Vortexes ) , ---------------------- .......... 2) AND the Replanishing of Matter by the Sun/stars after millions of tonnes of matter ejected daily by thousands of Streamers And mega tonnes ejected during CMEs ! -------------- ................No other theory explains it , hence the UPN deserves attention . ------------ .................... Fars News Agency :: First Known 'Middleweight' Black Hole ........................... First Known 'Middleweight' Black Hole ........................... TEHRAN (FNA)- Observations with CSIRO's Australia Telescope Compact Array have confirmed that astronomers have found the first known "middleweight" black hole. ................... Outbursts of super-hot gas observed with a CSIRO radio telescope have clinched the identity of the first known "middleweight" black hole, Science Express reports. ........................ Called HLX-1 ("hyper-luminous X-ray source 1"), the black hole lies in a galaxy called ESO 243-49, about 300 million light-years away. ............... Before it was found, astronomers had good evidence for only supermassive black holes -- ones a million to a billion times the mass of the Sun -- and "stellar mass" ones, three to thirty times the mass of the Sun. ..................... "This is the first object that we're really sure is an intermediate-mass black hole," said Dr Sean Farrell, an ARC Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Sydney and a member of the research team, which included astronomers from France, Australia, the UK and the USA .... more ... .... The UPN theory : ...... The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN ) | The Unifying Property of Nature ( UPN )
     

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