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  1. #1 Does the religion of Shintoism have a doomsday prophesy? 
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    Does the Japanese religion Shintoism have a doomsday prophesy like so many other religions?


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    It appears not.


    http://www.religionfacts.com/shinto/index.htm
    Motoori Norinaga stated that the human world keeps growing and developing while continuously changing. Similarly, Japanese mythology speaks of an eternity of history in the divine edict of Amaterasu. In its view of history, Shinto adheres to the cyclical approach, according to which there is a constant recurrence of historical patterns. Shinto does not have the concept of the "last day": there is no end of the world or of history. From the viewpoint of finite individuals, Shintoists also stress naka-ima ("middle present"), which repeatedly appears in the Imperial edicts of the 8th century. According to this point of view, the present moment is the very center in the middle of all conceivable times. In order to participate directly in the eternal development of the world, it is required of Shintoists to live fully each moment of life, making it as worthy as possible.


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    I just thought it would be interesting if the world was supposed to change or end in 2012 like a bunch of other religions.
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    Which religions think it will happen in 2012? I thought that was just when the old mayan calendar ends.
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    I saw a television show called Doomsday 2012: The End of Days. It was about the predictions of Nostradamus, the Bible, the I Ching, and Merlin and how they match up with our current times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    I saw a television show called Doomsday 2012: The End of Days. It was about the predictions of Nostradamus, the Bible, the I Ching, and Merlin and how they match up with our current times.
    And it must have also said that the life on earth ends every 5126 years as the earth hits the rope between the sun and the galactic core .....right.............and the date when it hits is ....21.12.2012.........all just a hoax....... :x
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    I saw a television show called Doomsday 2012: The End of Days. It was about the predictions of Nostradamus, the Bible, the I Ching, and Merlin and how they match up with our current times.
    You should get your science from places other than hyped televsion shows.

    Anything labeled "Doomsday" should be assumed to be garbage designed to get ratings, rather than explain real science.

    Edited for typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    I saw a television show called Doomsday 2012: The End of Days. It was about the predictions of Nostradamus, the Bible, the I Ching, and Merlin and how they match up with our current times.
    Humans have a gift for selective interpretation of vague sources, for finding patters and parallels where they are not, and most of all for selling all of that to people who like to watch documentaries.

    There's no one great big end of the world. Just billions of little ones. As Neil Gaiman once put it, the world is always ending for someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    I saw a television show called Doomsday 2012: The End of Days. It was about the predictions of Nostradamus, the Bible, the I Ching, and Merlin and how they match up with our current times.
    You were asked which religions predicted this. Let's look at your lineup:
    Nostradamus - at least nominally a Christian, but his predictions were not part of the Church's beliefs. Strike one.
    The Bible - The Bible predicts the world will end in 2012? I must have missed that during my readings. Strike two.
    The I Ching - This is a cultural and philosophical icon of the Chinese people. It is not directly related to any religion. Strike three.

    Three strikes usually means you are out, but I'll give you one last chance - you know why, don't you?

    Merlin - A mythological figure. Strike four.

    So no religions actually predict the world will end in 2012. mmatt, you may feel I am rubbing your nose in what was an ignorant statement. You would be correct. I hope that this encourages you to do a minimal of critical thinking and online research before you post similar nonsense. On the other hand if it only offends you, then there's no hope - end of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    I saw a television show called Doomsday 2012: The End of Days. It was about the predictions of Nostradamus, the Bible, the I Ching, and Merlin and how they match up with our current times.
    You were asked which religions predicted this. Let's look at your lineup:
    Nostradamus - at least nominally a Christian, but his predictions were not part of the Church's beliefs. Strike one.
    The Bible - The Bible predicts the world will end in 2012? I must have missed that during my readings. Strike two.
    The I Ching - This is a cultural and philosophical icon of the Chinese people. It is not directly related to any religion. Strike three.

    Three strikes usually means you are out, but I'll give you one last chance - you know why, don't you?

    Merlin - A mythological figure. Strike four.

    So no religions actually predict the world will end in 2012. mmatt, you may feel I am rubbing your nose in what was an ignorant statement. You would be correct. I hope that this encourages you to do a minimal of critical thinking and online research before you post similar nonsense. On the other hand if it only offends you, then there's no hope - end of story.
    What I meant to write was prophesies not religions.
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    Does Shintoism have a astrological calendar that predicts future events?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    What I meant to write was prophesies not religions.
    Well that makes a lot more sense, though I still reject Merlin outright and challenge you to show me a passage anywhere in the Bible that predicts something for a date any time this century. So, really even the prophecies you have cited don't actually match up to your criteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    I just thought it would be interesting if the world was supposed to change or end in 2012 like a bunch of other religions.
    There is ample and convincing evidence for a catastrophe in 2012. The precise date is November 6, 2012 -- U.S. election day. This calamity is periodic, with a period of 4 years. No specific religion required, though greed and egocentrism seem to rise to a religious fervor as the date approaches.
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    If you go off of Revelation's 7 seals (presumed by a lot of Christians to represent a thousand years each), of which the opening of the 7th is supposed to be the apocalypse, then it was supposed to happen 15 years ago, because 4004 BC is the estimated time when the creation happened.

    http://www.skeptically.org/oldtestament/id15.html

    The seals are described in Revelation from Chapter 5 to Chapter 9.

    On the other hand, there is supposed to be silence for "half an hour" first before the calamities. So who knows what that means?
    Some clocks are only right twice a day, but they are still right when they are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRocket
    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    I just thought it would be interesting if the world was supposed to change or end in 2012 like a bunch of other religions.
    There is ample and convincing evidence for a catastrophe in 2012. The precise date is November 6, 2012 -- U.S. election day. This calamity is periodic, with a period of 4 years. No specific religion required, though greed and egocentrism seem to rise to a religious fervor as the date approaches.
    :P :P
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