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    I dont know whether its wrong or right but i think think that a black hole ends in a small black dot .... very small to be physically determined ..... but i do think that this very tiny dot opens up into the center of a warm hole on the other side ..... the BLACK HOLE is one instance in the entire universe which defies laws of physics and that nothing can stand the force of attraction of it
    what do u think Guys??
    are there any more instances like this in the universe ???
    PLEASE HELP!!!! :?


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    sorry but think of it this way;

    time is a never ending sheet of paper. planets and stars are located on this paper an their gravity affect its "shape". now a "black hole" as you call it, would be an infinite abyss in this sheet because of the powerful pull of gravity insiide the event horizon.


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    yup ur right
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    Hello there,

    Yes, they are similar to Wormholes, which are almost exactly like black holes. Black holes end, but Wormholes are like secret passageways to other parts of the Universe. In Wormholes, things can travel right through them, but with blackholes, they just are trapped inside of the deep hole and everything that gets sucked into them just disappears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersal Gibs
    Hello there,

    Yes, they are similar to Wormholes, which are almost exactly like black holes. Black holes end, but Wormholes are like secret passageways to other parts of the Universe. In Wormholes, things can travel right through them, but with blackholes, they just are trapped inside of the deep hole and everything that gets sucked into them just disappears.

    Thank me if I am right.
    - Hersal Gibs.
    u said that it just dissapears but where does it exactly go n wht are the consequences of sending a resoursesat satellite on it to measure the consequences of sending a manned spacecraft there.does it defy the laws of physics n go to the other side of the black hole n still be able to mantain connections with the earth??!!
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    Have you considered using English as a language to communicate in?
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    yes.I do....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex-The Great
    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorWayne
    Have you considered using English as a language to communicate in?
    r u blind or r u dumb or r just trying to play the fun with me ???.. dont u the importance of the subjects we discuss here?? or r u new here ?? certainly not as i see in ur profile. n on the contrary wht is UR prob if i use codified eng?? it saves time n now i dont wanna waste my time quoting on ur silly n dumb Q's huh disgusting.....n for ur question YES i do use eng to write my posts. n from now on pls dont ask more questions like this at least for the dignity of this forum.. well if u want to give ur suggestions im glad but once again pls dont ask these silly questions at least to me.... n if u get angry by reading my posts im sorry i cant help it as its my responsibility to help u out on ur weak sides once u have registered on this forum...
    Your most important goal here is surely to have your ideas understood, correct? Not everyone here has English as their first language, and those who do may still find your writing style to be difficult to read. If you would rather save time than be understood, that is your decision to make, but don't be surprised if your posts are misunderstood, ignored or cause irritation. You can't have it both ways.
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    Alex,
    I believe you are an enthusiastic individual who has developed, or is developing, a serious interest in science. There are many here who will be happy to help you with this interest. However, here are some pointers you might like to keep in mind that could make the experience rewarding for all involved.

    1) Writing in text-speak may save you time, but it does not save time for many of your readers. It costs them time. To do that because you were unaware of the consequences is fine. If you continue to do it you will just be rude and can expect an appropriate reaction.

    2) In that regard, Meteor Wayne, was trying to guide you - through some light humour - towards a more suitable way of communicating on the forum. You mention being concerned about its dignity. Let me assure you that Meteor Wayne's post brought far more dignity to the forum than your somewhat arrogant and childish response.

    3) You seem to have got a lot of your information from popular science documentaries on TV. These are great for alerting people to ideas and sparking enthusiasm and interest, but they are often poor on their science content. Ideas are oftem dumbed down and dramatised. Be cautious how readily you take their ideas to heart. (For example the notion of wormholes is purely hypothetical. We have zero evidence, as far as I am aware, that they exist.)

    4) As I noted on another thread of yours, black holes do not break the laws of physics, nor do they 'suck up everything in the vicinity'.

    If I sound somewhat patronising it is likely because I am old enough to be your father or grandfather. I hope you stick around. We need all ages and knowledge levels on the forum, but we also need them to post appropriately. Keep the enthusiam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex-The Great
    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorWayne
    Have you considered using English as a language to communicate in?
    r u blind or r u dumb or r just trying to play the fun with me ???.. dont u the importance of the subjects we discuss here?? or r u new here ?? certainly not as i see in ur profile. n on the contrary wht is UR prob if i use codified eng?? it saves time n now i dont wanna waste my time quoting on ur silly n dumb Q's huh disgusting.....n for ur question YES i do use eng to write my posts. n from now on pls dont ask more questions like this at least for the dignity of this forum.. well if u want to give ur suggestions im glad but once again pls dont ask these silly questions at least to me.... n if u get angry by reading my posts im sorry i cant help it as its my responsibility to help u out on ur weak sides once u have registered on this forum...
    Well, there you have it MW. This is what comes from great advances in communications technology - like text messaging.

    In another ten years "codified eng" will probably be the standard format for scientific research papers.

    I yearn for the good old days when you actually had to talk to the person on the other end of the line!

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    Im really sorry for my misconduct. Because i usually get angry when someone teases me so im really sorry for it and meteor wayne i hope you read this post and i apologise to you to and thanks ophiolite with due respect and love and from now on my 'grandpa'{no grudges please..}
    as for The Boilogista im sorry for having made another comment on you in another post at the same time i delivered the against wayne meteor post as i was very angry that time.
    So thanks once again Grandpa And The Biologista for having helped me realise my mistake and Wayne Meteor SORRY once Again....... :wink:
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    Alex, that was a great reply. (Please excuse the pun on your forum name. :wink: ) It takes integrity to admit to an error and I congratulate you on that. I look forward to further exchanges with you.

    Have a great day.

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    My name is Alex Hawking . And thanks for your acceptance of me calling you my Grandpa. :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex-The Great
    yes.I do....
    For those reading the thread and now confused, you can see that Alex chose to edit his post after several had responded. To read the original, see TheBiologista and CSMYTH3025's reply which quoted him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex-The Great
    yes.I do....
    For those reading the thread and now confused, you can see that Alex chose to edit his post after several had responded. To read the original, see TheBiologista and CSMYTH3025's reply which quoted him.
    Come on inow know let that topic cool down please dont ashame me more for my misconduct i have realised my mistake and will not do anymore in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex-The Great
    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex-The Great
    yes.I do....
    For those reading the thread and now confused, you can see that Alex chose to edit his post after several had responded. To read the original, see TheBiologista and CSMYTH3025's reply which quoted him.
    Come on inow know let that topic cool down please dont ashame me more for my misconduct i have realised my mistake and will not do anymore in the future.
    Hi Alex - I did not intend to shame you. The point is that it is considered a bit rude to alter a previous reply after people have responded to it. It makes the conversation much less understandable, and ruins the flow and readability for someone coming to view the discussion at a later time.

    My post was intended to be helpful to readers, not negative towards you. Chillax.
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    Okay, I would like for any further posts made in this thread to be relevant to the original topic. The discussion of posting style, etiquette and user behavior has run it's course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBiologista
    Okay, I would like for any further posts made in this thread to be relevant to the original topic. The discussion of posting style, etiquette and user behavior has run it's course.
    Sorry.
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    TO bring things backk on topic, here is a traditional link to the wikipedia article.
    And one fromm NASA.
    And some FAQs.
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    Ophiolite

    3) You seem to have got a lot of your information from popular science documentaries on TV. These are great for alerting people to ideas and sparking enthusiasm and interest, but they are often poor on their science content. Ideas are oftem dumbed down and dramatised. Be cautious how readily you take their ideas to heart.
    ...(For example the notion of wormholes is purely hypothetical. We have zero evidence, as far as I am aware, that they exist.)

    4) As I noted on another thread of yours, black holes do not break the laws of physics, nor do they 'suck up everything in the vicinity'.
    It's true, but I doubt that I would have gotten away with saying that.

    PBS and Discovery put out a lot of science-fiction, but not labeled as such.

    Hawking radiation emits from black holes.

    Unless fed more matter, black holes will shrink and dissappear, their contents dissipated locally.

    edited for Hawking
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    It's true, but I doubt that I would have gotten away with saying that.

    PBS and Discovery put out a lot of science-fiction, but not labeled as such.

    Hawking radiation emits from black holes.

    Unless fed more matter, black holes will shrink and dissappear, their contents dissipated locally.
    Therefore i propose this could be used to make some type of tactical shield to protect the earth from future threats of black holes...............The Problem is i dont know how.............. can u people suggest some methods ............. and dont be sarcastic please........
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    The nearest known black hole is light years away.

    On a rapid collision course, it would take millions of years to encouter it.

    The threat from black holes would have to be a nearby unseen black hole.

    If collide with it, there is no "shield". We don't have the power to move the Earth, or the black hole, away from it's collision course.

    A near pass and we're likely OK, unless our orbit skews dangerously!! I thought once to write a movie on that concept...

    It takes a long time for black holes to shrink....There is another thread on this...
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