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    the idea is to put an astronaut into an spinning tube and let centrifugal force propel the astronaut

    there will be a tangential aceleration and a normal aceleration

    the trick is to make the tube the exact spiral shape such that tangential aceleration is zero

    if the tube has such an spiral shape that the tangential velocity is constant, therefore theres no tangential acelration theres only normal acceleration

    now imagine you put a spring or acelerometer to measure the normal aceleration that the astronaut, in this case the spring feels

    exactly it will feel zero g, the spring or acelerometer wont compress at all as it moves along the tube

    is something like when you free fall, you are acelerating but you feel 0 g

    so in this spiral jules vernes style cannon theres no tangential aceleration and the normal acceleration that there is is no felt

    result: with this cannon you can propel a person at whatever g while he feels 0 g, just as real gravity


    if you drop a spring or acelerometer from a plane it wont compress as it falls down, it will feel 0 g

    if you put the same spring in a tube and swing the tube as to trow the spring away it wont compress either(it has nothing to hold onto, it just cant compress), it will feel 0 normal G

    now the tube is an spiral in the exact shape in relation with the w so theres no tangential aceleration, the tangential velocity would be constant

    therefore the tangential aceleration is 0 and the normal acleration is felt as 0 g

    net aceleration felt=0


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    you may argue that if you change the vector velocity you will FEEL an acleration

    this is not the case of an astronaut orbiting earth who always feels zero g though he changes direction

    in this case both real and artificial gravity behave the same


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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    you may argue that if you change the vector velocity you will FEEL an acleration

    this is not the case of an astronaut orbiting earth who always feels zero g though he changes direction

    in this case both real and artificial gravity behave the same
    The forces acting on an orbiting astronaut are an outward centripetal pseudo-force and an inward gravitational force. They balance, leaving a net zero force on the astronaut (except for tidal effects).

    As far as I know, there's no known way to accelerate a person without him experiencing the effects of acceleration - this includes your proposed method. Even the orbiting astronaut had to be accelerated to achieve orbit.

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    yes the spring doesnt compress in free fall cause it feels zero g

    STILL IT ACCELERATES

    the spring doesnt compress inside the tube as it advances radially so it feels zero g

    yet it acelerates

    actually centrifugal force is the only real force

    gravity is a pseudo force from the inertia to remain still as the ground accelerates up as the earth inflates, thing we dont notice since we inflate in sync

    centrifugal force is what keeps the planet moving, its opposite is gravity

    so in a planet orbiting is not acting the force gravity and the pseudoforce centrifugal

    but the force centrifugal and pseudoforce gravity,

    now gravity goes from a certain point to the center so its limited

    but the real force centrifugal goes from a certain point to infinity

    so schauberger didnt create energy, the blood pump would not stop from creating energy, the whirlwind free energy machine wouldnt create energy

    it just taps it from the infinite energy that theres in the universe

    then why are we paying one euro the kg of energy

    can you see why the books teach fake science?

    mind control
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    ...it just taps it from the infinite energy that theres in the universe

    then why are we paying one euro the kg of energy

    can you see why the books teach fake science?l
    If you've figured out a way to produce useful power from vacuum energy (aka zero point energy) you'll be a rich man. Don't let us stop you.

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    you cant win money from what is widely known:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfebjDSVlo
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    you cant win money from what is widely known:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfebjDSVlo
    I don't think the information in the video to which you linked is widely known.

    You still have a shot at the Nobel Prize if you submit a paper on this phenomenom.

    That's worth a cool 10 million Swedish kronor (about $1.5 million US).

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    ive seen a documental in tv on how a fre energy whirlwind machine had been supressed

    and yes the tv said supressed

    and the images of the inventor and device were black and white

    man even the people who built trebuchets knew about this

    dark ages these are the dark ages

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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    ive seen a documental in tv on how a fre energy whirlwind machine had been supressed

    and yes the tv said supressed

    and the images of the inventor and device were black and white

    man even the people who built trebuchets knew about this

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    How does one go about "suppressing" such easily demonstrable technology?
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    how many trillions would have lost the petrol companies if they hadnt as they said in tv supress the fre energy whirlwind machine

    if the queen of englan was found out to be a lesbian and there were pictures i bet they wouldnt get supressed

    yeah right maybe in fantasy land where theres real freedom
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    how many trillions would have lost the petrol companies if they hadnt as they said in tv supress the fre energy whirlwind machine
    How many trillions will they lose if the ITER reactor works and we have a viable means of generating energy without fossil fuels? That projects is costing $13 billion of funds from 7 governments and ITER is just one of a number of similar projects with equally large sums of money behind them. Why haven't these been "suppressed" like your example was?

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    if the queen of englan was found out to be a lesbian and there were pictures i bet they wouldnt get supressed

    yeah right maybe in fantasy land where theres real freedom
    Cover ups happen, lobby groups block research, people lie. These are facts that I do not deny. But these facts do not mean that every new idea that is dismissed is an example of a cover up, even where a motive for a cover up exists.
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    well "they" delete this video, ive seen it deleted at least once:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfebjDSVlo

    the guy uploads it and someone deltes it

    do you realize it explains gravity without need of newtons magical force at distance?

    newton noexplanation for gravity appears ridicule in front of this guy cruz de wilde

    oh and the apple story, oh god do they think everybody is stupid?

    man if they can keep every football player forced into the closet, they can supress homosexual heros, they can supress petrol rivals

    the iters got to be a smoke screen

    if you change the reference frame to an inflating one gravity is explained as a pseudoforce caused by the inertia to remain still

    and being the reference frame a mind construction you can take whichever you want

    now in the newtonian non inflating reference frame gravity is magic, in the inflting frame is inertia

    curiously cruz de wilde and me reached the same conclusion

    so guess what im gonna believe this or what i study which teaches me to have blind faith

    but of course what could come up a rosacrucian like newton but explaining gravity witgh magic

    yeah there was nothing and then all energy of the universe appeared in a single spot but remember energy is always conserved

    so the physicists learn that the universe was created by god and works though magic

    just change god by big bang and gravity by magic

    whos the pseudo scientific here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    well "they" delete this video, ive seen it deleted at least once:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfebjDSVlo

    the guy uploads it and someone deltes it

    do you realize it explains gravity without need of newtons magical force at distance?

    newton noexplanation for gravity appears ridicule in front of this guy cruz de wilde

    oh and the apple story, oh god do they think everybody is stupid?

    man if they can keep every football player forced into the closet, they can supress homosexual heros, they can supress petrol rivals

    the iters got to be a smoke screen

    if you change the reference frame to an inflating one gravity is explained as a pseudoforce caused by the inertia to remain still

    and being the reference frame a mind construction you can take whichever you want

    now in the newtonian non inflating reference frame gravity is magic, in the inflting frame is inertia

    curiously cruz de wilde and me reached the same conclusion

    so guess what im gonna believe this or what i study which teaches me to have blind faith

    but of course what could come up a rosacrucian like newton but explaining gravity witgh magic

    yeah there was nothing and then all energy of the universe appeared in a single spot but remember energy is always conserved

    so the physicists learn that the universe was created by god and works though magic

    just change god by big bang and gravity by magic

    whos the pseudo scientific here?
    Okay... you just wrote a whole load of stuff there, but all that's relevant to my question is "the iters got to be a smoke screen". That's one pricey smoke screen, with a whole bunch of competing and similarly pricey smoke screens in the pipeline, but hey maybe I just don't get business. I'm sure it makes perfect sense to spend billions creating the impression in the public's mind that a superior alternative to your industry is plausible.

    Scientific ideas that were unpopular with big business lobbies have been accepted by the scientific community in the past and despite big industry efforts (and I totally accept that they try to suppress things) these ideas have been accepted well enough to dictate government policy. Example being the established link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. An industry worth billions (and perhaps trillions), couldn't manage to suppress one research paper which utterly changed the public perception of that industry, lost it billions (or maybe trillions) in revenue and which was the starting point of a field of research (epidemiology) which continues to highlight health risks associated with all manner of products peddled by other multi-billion dollar industries such as the alcohol and fast food industries and indeed big oil. This despite a huge amount of money spent on countering research and political lobbying. One paper, and they couldn't silence it.

    And while we're talking about big oil... ignoring ITER and all those annoying sustainable energy systems like wind and hydro, how come they haven't managed to suppress all that pesky research into electric and hydrogen-based vehicles? Sure, they don't eliminate the need for fossil fuels, but they're explicitly aiming to reduce the demand by improving efficiency. Shouldn't that be grounds to call in the men in black? Shouldn't we all be laughing at Tesla Motors and their ilk? Shouldn't talk of electric cars be getting thrown arbitrarily into the Pseudo forum by all those shills put in place here by The Man?
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    well im not sure but if rockerduck holds 80% of world wealth he literally owns the word

    im not sure weather this is true or not:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/rohbss

    but thats the thing i really dont know but gotta admit that it could be posible

    hell i really dont dare to talk of fluorine in public

    but i dont want to be forced to have a med "for my teeth"

    guess what i have no choice even botled water for babies has fluroine

    so if im FORCED to have the med fluorine that i dont want they can do anything they want for me

    hey but maybe fluorine is not bad but good
    but sounds suspicious fluorine in water mercury in teeth feeling, aluminum in deodorant, lead in gasoline...

    population control?

    maybe yes maybe not who knows

    but i wont have the certainty many show here neither pro system nor antisystem and what its bad can be changed, i think recently lead was banned in fuels

    i have hope some day you can chose weather you want to have fluorine or not

    also even if that video is right i really doubt they have absolute control, thats why the teach i mean cheat people rather than forcing them
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    and in the end the supression its even happening here

    cruz the wilde and mine inflating frame reference as a theory of everything(i only explain gravity) is not being discussed but supression andfluorine what makes me look like a whacko
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    well im not sure but if rockerduck holds 80% of world wealth he literally owns the word

    im not sure weather this is true or not:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/rohbss

    but thats the thing i really dont know but gotta admit that it could be posible

    hell i really dont dare to talk of fluorine in public

    but i dont want to be forced to have a med "for my teeth"

    guess what i have no choice even botled water for babies has fluroine

    so if im FORCED to have the med fluorine that i dont want they can do anything they want for me

    hey but maybe fluorine is not bad but good
    but sounds suspicious fluorine in water mercury in teeth feeling, aluminum in deodorant, lead in gasoline...

    population control?

    maybe yes maybe not who knows

    but i wont have the certainty many show here neither pro system nor antisystem and what its bad can be changed, i think recently lead was banned in fuels

    i have hope some day you can chose weather you want to have fluorine or not

    also even if that video is right i really doubt they have absolute control, thats why the teach i mean cheat people rather than forcing them
    Fun fact, your body has benifitial uses of fluorine, in small quantities and the right compounds. Your body can also use certain cyanide compounds whereas others are extremely fatal.
    Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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