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    Integral carrot approach to poison, starve and kill cancer cells:

    (taken from Philippine Copyright 2010 by jsaldea12, quiet researcher of Dr. Bg in alternative medicines).


    1.Always have all drinks saturated adequately with fresh carrot juice and have all foods with absorbed carrot juice or cook foods with absorbed carrot juice. Carrot has ingredients, re- falcarinol, beta-carotene, vitamin E which are cancer fighting nutrients, either to poison or to starve cancer cells, but good to normal cells. All scientists, researchers, doctors agree that carrots has such anti-cancer ingredients that prevents cancer. If carrot can prevent, it can cure. See? Thus, this integral full carrot approach: .Never mind if you look yellow taking carrots. Just be sure you are not allergic to carrot. This integral carrot approach is not just supplementary but more complementary with radiation therapy, chemotherapy. Advice, if any, to stop on this harmless integral carrot approach appears wrong. How to prepare: Saturate drinks and foods with carrots juice or slices for 10 to 30 minutes, the longer the better but makes sure carrot is still fresh, taste
    fresh, is alkalined, not sour acidic. There are food processors or fruit grinders to make carrot juice, carrot juice, naturally, mixed with water. Hand grinding/scripping is equally good..)

    Here is the clue: Carrots has glucose, Cancer cells feeds on glucose. But taking glucose of carrots also means taking all the stated fighting nutrients of carrots, thus cancer cells are either forced to regress, poisoned, or starved if refused to eat, or caused suicide themselves to death..

    2. But NEVER TAKE SUGAR, WHICH IS FULL OF GLUCOSE on which cancer
    cells feed. Take fructose of fruits, but always saturated with carrot juice.
    3. Also NEVER EAT RED MEAT, particularly from cows and carabows…acid-
    forming, difficult for the stomach, small and large intestine to digest. Red
    meat is one major cause of rectum cancer.
    4.Samples of known cancer-killing nutrient fruits to take liberally with carrot juice,
    as base.:Raw pineapples, whole purple grapes, apricot seeds, strawberries,
    orange, green tea. Mushroom, etc.
    5.Do not take milk. Milk causes body to produce mucus. Cancer cells feeds on
    mucus. Soya milk is anti-cancer.
    6. Stop smoking. drinking alcohol, soda drinks, re-coke, orange, etc.
    7. Cancer thrives on ACIDIC ENVIRONMENT. Meat is acid forming, negative
    thinking is acid-forming..
    8. Cancer cells cannot exist in alkaline environment. Thus, maintain positive
    attitude in life and have faith in God. Makes your body alkalined, NOT ACIDIC.
    9. Avoid coffee. tea, chocolate which have caffeine.
    10. Cancer cells cannot SURVIVE in oxygen. Thus, exercise, aerobics, simply
    walk slightly briskly, makes you breathe deeper than normal, takes in
    oxygen..
    11. Do not eat fat.
    12. Take fiber, like C-lium fiber, with carrot juice..


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    A word of caution: Do not take falcarinol in large amount, as it can be toxic, thus, avoid taking two to three kilos of carrots all at oncc or in a day.



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    It is true it is still in the research table., needs more research. particularly by the good University of NewCastle upon Tyne and Dansh Universities but the principle is there: if there is nutrients in carrot, especially that falcarinol, that can poison, regress, starve to death cancer cells, then why not take in all drinks and solid foods saturated by carrot juice/slice which has poisonous nutrients in its glucose, such ati-cancer fighting glucose on which cancer cells feed to poison, regress, starve, etc. themselves. But warming about the allergy it can cause and the overdose taking that is toxic.

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    Carrots may help ward off cancer

    Carrots contain a beneficial natural pesticide
    A compound in carrots may reduce the risk of developing cancer, research suggests.
    A team from the University of Newcastle Upon Tyne found the natural pesticide falcarinol reduced the risk of cancer developing in rats by a third.
    They hope the discovery will lead to a new generation of anti-cancer drugs - and tips to growers on how to boost the beneficial properties of their produce.
    Details are published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry.

    For consumers, it may soon no longer be a case of advising them to eat five portions of fruit and vegetables per day but to eat particular types of these in certain quantities

    Dr Kirsten Brandt
    Falcarinol protects carrots from fungal diseases, such as liquorice rot that causes black spots on the roots during storage.
    The scientists investigated the compound after a previous published study suggested it could prevent the development of cancer.
    The research team carried out tests on 24 rats with pre-cancerous tumours.
    After 18 weeks, rats who ate carrots along with their ordinary feed, and those given feed and falcarinol supplement were one third less likely to develop full-scale tumours than rats who were given just ordinary feed.
    Further work
    Researcher Dr Kirsten Brandt said: "We already know that carrots are good for us and can reduce the risk of cancer but until now we have not known which element of the vegetable has these special properties.
    "We now need to take it a step further by finding out how much falcarinol is needed to prevent the development of cancer and if certain types of carrot are better than others, as there are many varieties in existence, of different shapes, colours and sizes.
    "We could also expand our research to include other vegetables.
    "For consumers, it may soon no longer be a case of advising them to eat five portions of fruit and vegetables per day but to eat particular types of these in certain quantities.
    "The research could also lead to more tailored advice for growers regarding the methods they should use when growing vegetables."
    The experiment was conducted using raw carrots so researchers do not yet know if eating boiled carrots or drinking carrot juice would have the same effect.
    Dr Brandt recommended consumers should eat one small carrot every day, together with other vegetables and fruits.
    Falcarinol is toxic in large amounts - but to obtain a lethal dose you would have to eat 400 kilograms of carrots at once.
    Researchers suspect it stimulates mechanisms in the body that fight cancer.
    Hazel Nunn, of Cancer Research UK, said there was plenty of evidence that eating fruit and vegetables can reduce your risk of cancer - but the reasons why were still unclear.
    "People shouldn't think that eating a carrot a day will negate the effects of a diet of burgers and chocolate.
    "To reduce your risk of cancer and other serious diseases our advice remains to eat at least five portions of different fruits and vegetables each day as part of a healthy and balanced diet."


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    This is true story: there was a whole village in America whose produce is carrot but the village was cut off one whole winter, all villagers ate nothing but carrots in various drinks and cookings. After the winter subsided, the whole villagers were very much okay and healthy. Thus, eating carrots is more beneficial than harmful..


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    I'd rather have cancer than turn yellow.
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    I do not declare myself to be an expert on ANY subject. If I state something as fact that is obviously wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me. I welcome such corrections in an attempt to be as truthful and accurate as possible.


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    Let me rephrase: I downplayed myself too quite in that statement “I am not an expert”. I am just a scientist and inventor for the past 55 years..

    Let us analyze: The cancer-fighting nutrients of carrots seem to act like chemo but while chemo kills both good and bad cells, the nutrients of carrots (fresh and cooked carrots), particularly falcarinol, could poison only cancer cells unless carrots is taking in large quantity, 2 to more kilos in one setting or in a day to become over-toxic.


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    Falcarinol attacks fungi in plants, Fungi is more classified under animal than plant. Thus, it appears that living cancer cells are like fungi in human bodies.. This could be one reason why falcarinol is fighting cancer cells, particularly, roaming cancer cells , thought they are just like fungi..

    But caution is in order: Take in carrots in moderation. safely for health, take day by day, if you can make it in all drinks and foods., could be advisably , alternating /blending it with Johanna anti-oxidant grape drinks, and other anti-cancer nutrients. All drinks and foods anti-cancer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    Falcarinol attacks fungi in plants, Fungi is more classified under animal than plant. Thus, it appears that living cancer cells are like fungi in human bodies.. This could be one reason why falcarinol is fighting cancer cells, particularly, roaming cancer cells , thought they are just like fungi..

    But caution is in order: Take in carrots in moderation. safely for health, take day by day, if you can make it in all drinks and foods., could be advisably , alternating /blending it with Johanna anti-oxidant grape drinks, and other anti-cancer nutrients. All drinks and foods anti-cancer.


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    Thanks, that seems new tech. Unfortunately I'll have to wait until it is in the health magazine. Intake of food allways was an important issue, and thereby i am in no position of directing cancer sick people into eating carrots... The doctor & dietist would be most unpleased.
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    Only someone who did not have the faintest idea what he was talking about would say cancer cells are like fungi. There is no resemblance, and I suspect that the whole idea of carrots as treatment for cancer is equally a load of crap!

    I will beg forgiveness and apologise profusely when I see this demonstrated by proper double blind, randomised, placebo controlled clinical trials, published in reputable medical journals that are peer reviewed.
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    Allthough fungi can cause cancer and such fungi should be eliminated from the cancer patient. Isn't that correct?
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    A fungi does not breathe oxygen, neither does cancer cell, a fungi is closer as an animal than a plant, so does cancer cells. Falcarinol fights, kills fungi. Most, if not all, scientists, researchers, oncologists agree that carrots, with that nutrients, falcarinol, plus beta-carotene, vit. A & E FIGHT CANCER. But that is not complete: deny cancer cells of its main food: sugar, refined sugar, which turns fermented on which cancer cells feed. When you feed cancer cells such poisonous nutrients of carrots and by denying cancer cells of its main food: that fermented sugar….such is the suggested integral approach, etc.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    A fungi does not breathe oxygen, neither does cancer cell, a fungi is closer as an animal than a plant, so does cancer cells. Falcarinol fights, kills fungi. Most, if not all, scientists, researchers, oncologists agree that carrots, with that nutrients, falcarinol, plus beta-carotene, vit. A & E FIGHT CANCER. But that is not complete: deny cancer cells of its main food: sugar, refined sugar, which turns fermented on which cancer cells feed. When you feed cancer cells such poisonous nutrients of carrots and by denying cancer cells of its main food: that fermented sugar….such is the suggested integral approach, etc.



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    The big thing about cancer cells, which make cancer such a horror, is that they are our cells. They come from the human body, and they are human cells. In all ways that matter, they are enormously different to fungal cells.

    When the cancer is small - just beginning - it may be eliminated by the immune system. once a cancer is large, that will never happen. Remember that the cancer is made up of your own cells, so the immune response is minimal.

    Current treatments for cancer are nasty. They have to be. Chemotherapy works on the principle of feeding the body a nasty poison, that will kill fast growing (hence cancer) cells sooner than it kills the other cells. But it is still a poison and causes nasty side effects throughout the body.

    Radiotherapy kills living cells. Surgery, of course, is always traumatic.

    Medical researchers are working on more subtle treatments, that can target cancer cells without harming the rest of the body. It is not easy, because cancer cells are so much like normal human cells.

    Fungi, on the other hand, are enormously different to human cells. Thus, lots of chemicals will strongly attack fungi while having minimal effect on normal human cells. That is a very, very big difference. And no. Fungi are not like animal cells. They belong to their own, separate kingdom.

    One thing that you need to bear in mind, is the opposite of chemotherapy. Feeding a poison kills cancer cells. Feeding a nutrient accelerates cancers. Thus, the old idea of Vitamin C killing cancer is just wrong. You are more likely to control the cancer by depriving the body of vitamin C, since this reduces the rate at which your cells (including, and especially cancer cells) can multiply.

    In the same way, if carrots contain vital nutrients for the human body, giving the body more will, if anything, only accelerate cancer growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    The big thing about cancer cells, which make cancer such a horror, is that they are our cells. They come from the human body, and they are human cells. In all ways that matter, they are enormously different to fungal cells.

    When the cancer is small - just beginning - it may be eliminated by the immune system. once a cancer is large, that will never happen. Remember that the cancer is made up of your own cells, so the immune response is minimal.

    Current treatments for cancer are nasty. They have to be. Chemotherapy works on the principle of feeding the body a nasty poison, that will kill fast growing (hence cancer) cells sooner than it kills the other cells. But it is still a poison and causes nasty side effects throughout the body.

    Radiotherapy kills living cells. Surgery, of course, is always traumatic.

    Medical researchers are working on more subtle treatments, that can target cancer cells without harming the rest of the body. It is not easy, because cancer cells are so much like normal human cells.

    Fungi, on the other hand, are enormously different to human cells. Thus, lots of chemicals will strongly attack fungi while having minimal effect on normal human cells. That is a very, very big difference. And no. Fungi are not like animal cells. They belong to their own, separate kingdom.

    One thing that you need to bear in mind, is the opposite of chemotherapy. Feeding a poison kills cancer cells. Feeding a nutrient accelerates cancers. Thus, the old idea of Vitamin C killing cancer is just wrong. You are more likely to control the cancer by depriving the body of vitamin C, since this reduces the rate at which your cells (including, and especially cancer cells) can multiply.

    In the same way, if carrots contain vital nutrients for the human body, giving the body more will, if anything, only accelerate cancer growth.
    It'll kill fungi though?
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    ..and farciranol has capability to kill, poison cancer cells…because farciranol is used as pesticide. But in safe dosage, such as two or three carrots a day, not two to three kilos a day, it is safe. And in combination with other nutrients of carrots, such as beta-carotene, Vit A & E which are anti-oxidant, (also in combination with superior anti-oxidant resveratrol of red grapes) which weaken cancer cells but good to healthy cells, farciranol becomes more effective POISON AND KILL SUCH MUTANT WEAKEN CELLS. Thus the clue, applicable even in chemo, like PLANT ALKANOID, WEAKEN FIRST THE CANCER CELLS WITH MASSIVE ANTI-OXIDANT AND COMPLETE ABSTINENCE FROM SUGAR, THEN APPLY CHEMO TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN KILLING WEAKEN CANCER CELLS WHILE GOOD CELLS REMAIN STURDY


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    A fungi does not breathe oxygen, neither does cancer cell
    This is absolute nonsense. Please show ONE piece of reliable literature that says this. 55 years of research and you make a mistake like this? :?
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    A quick check on google explains where jsaldea gets his/her ideas from. Carrots contain falcarinol, which is a toxin designed by evolution to protect the plant against fungal disease. This does not, in any way, suggest that it is effective against fungi attacking humans.

    Also, the apparent anti-cancer properties of carrots seems to be a result of just one test against cancer in rats. As anyone who follows this kind of research knows, this means almost nothing. For a start, what works in rodents frequently has no effect in humans. Also, one single test means very little. The whole history of medical research is full of examples of simple, single lab tests like this leading nowhere.

    It is, however, promising enough to suggest further research. I would not recommend anyone to eat carrots wholesale in the belief it will make them immune to cancer. Nothing yet discovered even approaches that. And overdoing almost anything is likely to cause more harm than good.

    By all means add carrots as a regular part of your diet. They are a healthy vegetable, with lots of dietary fibre and are rich in vitamin A precursor. Don't overdo them, and do not expect miracles.

    At the end of the day, if it turns out that falcarinol is useful therapeutically, it will be made available in pill form. The chemical will also be tested in modified form, to see if simple chemical modifications increase potency. The final product will be vastly more potent than a carrot.

    And going by the history of cancer research, it will probably be a fizzer. 99% of all promising chemicals for cancer turn out to be useless with increased research.
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    Quoted: "No, Fungi do not breathe. "Breathing" is defined as drawing air into lungs and expelling it thereby transforming oxygen into carbon dioxide. Not all living things need to do this to survive. Plants and fungi do not inhale and exhale." (kindly let me add: especially oxygen)


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    Quoted: "At the end of the day, if it turns out that falcarinol is useful therapeutically, it will be made available in pill form. The chemical will also be tested in modified form, to see if simple chemical modifications increase potency. The final product will be vastly more potent than a carrot."

    I haven't thought of that yet...in pills That is a good idea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    A quick check on google explains where jsaldea gets his/her ideas from. Carrots contain falcarinol, which is a toxin designed by evolution to protect the plant against fungal disease. This does not, in any way, suggest that it is effective against fungi attacking humans.
    Well if I had known a vegetable with fungi, I'd given it a carrot

    Well then. What is usefull against fungi in the body (just as a follower question)?
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    What is useful against fungi in the human body?

    There are numerous medical antifungal drugs. Examples include miconazole and clotrimazole.

    The thing is that you need a drug that will not harm the patient but will kill the fungus. I once had a case of athletes foot (fungal) which I cured entirely by accident. I had some industrial fungicide at home {2(thiocyanomethylthio)benzothiazole} which I used as a timber preservative. I treated the wooden foot to my shower cubercle with this, and noticed some washed out into the shower water, and over my bare feet when I showered.

    A couple weeks later, my athletes foot was gone and never returned. However, that particular chemical, while highly effective against almost any fungus, will never be used medically, as it also burns human tissue. I avoided this by the fact that it was well diluted in my shower water.

    There are literally hundreds of different chemicals that will kill fungi, but most will not be used to treat people, because they are also harmful to people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    What is useful against fungi in the human body?

    There are numerous medical antifungal drugs. Examples include miconazole and clotrimazole.

    The thing is that you need a drug that will not harm the patient but will kill the fungus. I once had a case of athletes foot (fungal) which I cured entirely by accident. I had some industrial fungicide at home {2(thiocyanomethylthio)benzothiazole} which I used as a timber preservative. I treated the wooden foot to my shower cubercle with this, and noticed some washed out into the shower water, and over my bare feet when I showered.

    A couple weeks later, my athletes foot was gone and never returned. However, that particular chemical, while highly effective against almost any fungus, will never be used medically, as it also burns human tissue. I avoided this by the fact that it was well diluted in my shower water.

    There are literally hundreds of different chemicals that will kill fungi, but most will not be used to treat people, because they are also harmful to people.
    Thank you sceptic, that was exactly what I needed. To know whether the help is out there, which it is which is also good.

    Cool medicin by the way.
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    Actually, farcarinol of carrot is toxic but combined with anti-oxidant beta-carotene, Vit. A & E in light, safe dosage, two to four carrots a day. While nearly all current chemos are applied in short notice massive toxic dosage that damage both good and bad cells . Farcarinol is similarly toxic, like the current toxic chemotherapy, thus, as such, FALCARINOL IS SUGGESTED WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, AS A NEW FORM OF CHEMOTHERAPHY. Such falcarinol can be isolated, extracted and be converted into pills (as suggested by Skeptic) or catheter, or,better falcarinol concentrate combined with anti-oxidants nutrient of carrots or grapes in capsule or serum..such is suggested new chemo.

    Let me further suggest to make chemo more effective: make preparation by taking nothing but carrots, or in combination with grapes for one week, BEFORE THE ACTUAL CHEMOTHERAPY OR SURGERY, as such stated preparation weakens cancer cells, that once CHEMO IS APPLIED, WHETHER FALCARINOL (OR EXISTNG CHEMOS ), only the weaken cancer cells are affected, killed while the good cells remain healthy.



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    Tried to search in the internet about preparation before applying chemotheraphy. There is none. Maybe it is good to repeat preparation how to make chemo more effective: by taking nothing but carrots, or in combination with grapes, and other cancer-fighting fruits for one week, BEFORE THE ACTUAL CHEMOTHERAPY OR SURGERY, as such stated preparation weakens cancer cells, that once CHEMO IS APPLIED, WHETHER FALCARINOL OR EXISTING CHEMOS , only the weaken cancer cells are affected, killed while the good cells remain healthy.

    Also, the numerous kinds of present chemos do not include falcarinol. Appears completely new and could be very cheap considering abundance of carrots. Sent such recommendation to American Cancer Society Research Department as ACS suggests.


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    I suggest you curb your enthusiasm.
    Remember that this is only one rodent test. At least 99% of all chemicals that look OK at that stage bomb out with contined testing.

    In other words, there is a more than 100 to 1 chance that this chemical is a dud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
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    I suggest you curb your enthusiasm.
    Remember that this is only one rodent test. At least 99% of all chemicals that look OK at that stage bomb out with contined testing.

    In other words, there is a more than 100 to 1 chance that this chemical is a dud.
    Hey, you've got strong numbers! That's a good thing.
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    Just to enlighten us, to deepen our research: nearly all chemos, if not all, are toxic, such is the principle. But massive intake of toxic , particularly, one time intake, destroys both cancer cells and good cells. Such massive intake practice appears to be one major cause why chemos have many negative results than positive results.
    Cancer cells are no different, once good cells, that rebel, mutate, their weaknesses are well-known: oxygen, alkaline, etc. Perhaps, we should not treat them like rats…..toxic them all of a sudden..as the common practice. There are naturally preparations before chemos, not just in the internet, could be top secrets of oncologists. I just suggest that ONE KIND OF SALIENT PREPARATION, THUS, MASSIVE INTAKE OF CHEMOS ONE TIME INTAKE CAN BE REDUCED IN DOSAGE, AS CANCER CELLS ARE ALREADY WEAKEN BUT GOOD CELLS ARE STRONG AND SAFE.
    SUCH IS THE CONTINUING SUGGESTION.

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    So what you're saying is, if we starve ourselves we can control the cancer. This is wonderful news except that we starve ourselves... Lovely.


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    The big thing about cancer cells, which make cancer such a horror, is that they are our cells. They come from the human body, and they are human cells. In all ways that matter, they are enormously different to fungal cells.

    When the cancer is small - just beginning - it may be eliminated by the immune system. once a cancer is large, that will never happen. Remember that the cancer is made up of your own cells, so the immune response is minimal.

    Current treatments for cancer are nasty. They have to be. Chemotherapy works on the principle of feeding the body a nasty poison, that will kill fast growing (hence cancer) cells sooner than it kills the other cells. But it is still a poison and causes nasty side effects throughout the body.

    Radiotherapy kills living cells. Surgery, of course, is always traumatic.

    Medical researchers are working on more subtle treatments, that can target cancer cells without harming the rest of the body. It is not easy, because cancer cells are so much like normal human cells.

    Fungi, on the other hand, are enormously different to human cells. Thus, lots of chemicals will strongly attack fungi while having minimal effect on normal human cells. That is a very, very big difference. And no. Fungi are not like animal cells. They belong to their own, separate kingdom.

    One thing that you need to bear in mind, is the opposite of chemotherapy. Feeding a poison kills cancer cells. Feeding a nutrient accelerates cancers. Thus, the old idea of Vitamin C killing cancer is just wrong. You are more likely to control the cancer by depriving the body of vitamin C, since this reduces the rate at which your cells (including, and especially cancer cells) can multiply.

    In the same way, if carrots contain vital nutrients for the human body, giving the body more will, if anything, only accelerate cancer growth.
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    Why chemotherapy fail in number of cases?

    Why does chemotherapy fails and antibiotics succeeds? Antibiotics kills foreign objects in the body those bacteria while chemotherapy kills human cells, both cancer cells and good cells. Antibiotics can distinguish and weaken bacteria from human cells while chemotherapy cannot recognize cancer cells from good cells, thus , weakens both. Bacteria is weaker than human cells whose immune system can recognize such foreign attackers , thus usually there is fever because the immune system is recognizing and the natural killer cells are fighting. Now, the application of antibiotics, massive or less either further weakens or directly kills bacterais, Together, both the body defense system and the antibiotics work hand in hand fighting and killing bacterias..

    The main defect why chemotherapy notoriously fails in most cases is it is being treated/applied like antibiotics, seems to be forgetting well that both cancer cells and good cells are part of the body. It is okay , generally, safe, with antibiotics to be applied in calculated large dosage or so because antibiotics knows and attacks an identified enemy, those bacteria. But with chemo, to be applied generally massively, one time or in short duration, nevertheless, in massive dose, chemo attacks both cancer cells and good cells, cannot distinguish good from bad. Why chemo attacks? because most, if not all chemos are actually toxic, POISON. THIS APPEARS THE MAIN REASON WHY CHEMO FAILS MUCH MORE THAN CURE, applying massive chemo poisons the body which further weakens the immune system, weakens natural killers cells more than the cancer cells because cancer cells multiply more, live longer that instead of curing, after chemo is applied, it worsens the condition of the body, makes cancer cells thrives more, multiply more.
    How to make chemos identify cancer cells from good cells? The weaknesses of cancer cells are identified, re-cancer cells cannot survive in oxygen, cancer cells does not breath air, while good cells breath air. That is why there is no cancer in the heart, that pumps air. Good cells thrive in alkaline, while cancer cells cannot, it thrives in acidic. Thus, are the clue, the identity of the weaknesses of cancer cells.

    Knowing the weaknesses of cancer cells, following are more a recommendation than suggestion before applying any kind of chemos to treat cancer cells:

    1.Weaken cancer cells by taking nothing, either drinks or foods but cancer-fighting plants, like carrots and grapes, taking nothing but all fresh carrots , in combination with fresh red grapes. Carrots has falcarinol, a toxic element, beta-carotene, Vit. A & E, all fighting cancer nutrients. As carrot has glucose and cancer cells love glucose, taking glucose of carrots is like giving poison to cancer cells but ok to good cells , provided taking carrots, three to five carrots a day safely and healthful. Combining, blending or alternating with fresh red grapes,(see johanna grape diet) taking nothing but all grapes with proven anti-oxidant resveratrol. To strengthen immune system, take plenty of alkalined vitamin C. There are many other proven plants and fruits which are fighting cancer cells like green tea, mushroom, tomatoes, tangland, berries, etc. but the above two, carrots and grapes, could be among the best cancer fighting elements. Taking nothing but fresh anti-cancer cells.

    2. Weaken cancer cells for, say, one week or longer with nothing but the above anti-cancer elements. Then apply chemo, could be i lesser dosage, it would be more effective, weakens/kills cancer cells but good cells remains sturdy, immune system and natural killer cells can be awaken identifying bad cancer cells from good cells,.


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    There is advertised, well documented, in the internet about the drug “ukrain” which is toxic to cancer cells but not toxic to good cells. If this is too good to be true, this is a BREAK THROUGH: TOXIC TO CANCER CELLS BUT NOT TOXIC TO GOOD CELLS. This is the cancer cure what all scientists, oncologists, researchers, alternative medicine researchers, etc. have been looking for. It is like penicillin…toxic to bacteria but not to good cells in human body. Just like penicillin, perhaps, time, say, 20 years, will tell if this is too good to be true. Or puff.
    In the Philippines, the common source of such “ukrain” is such common weed called “hiya hiya”.

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    If cancer cells cannot survive in oxygen and cannot thrive in a alkaline environment, then wouldn't the solution be to pursue a medicine or treatment that introduced oxygen to the cancer cells as well as changing the acidic environment to an alkaline environment? I think researchers are getting close to finding a cure for cancer. I think finding a cure will be one of the biggest milestone in medicine since penicillin.
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    You are right.

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    Kindly permit me to refer you to more complete post, “Integral approach to poison and/or starve cancer cells to death”.

    It is noted that even a famished cancer patient, especially from terminal lung cancer, frequently given oxygen from oxygen tank extends his lifeline, lives longer.

    How to infuse converted solid or liquid oxygen, which turns back to gaseous state upon normal atmospheric temperature, to fresh blood for intravenous appears the challenge for scientific research.

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    You continue to promote unproven therapies. Why?

    Good science requires a medical treatment to pass the 'gold standard' test. That is, stage III clinical trials, that must be randomised, double blind, and with placebo controls. Preferably several of those trials.

    When a substance such as falcarinol shows some promise in tests on cancerous laboratory mice, that is NOT, repeat NOT, a reason to recommend it for humans. Research testing must be complete.

    On that basis, your recommendations are quite irresponsible. I would hate to see someone here taking your advice rather than going to an oncologist, who actually knows what he is doing.
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    AN EFFECTIVE ANTI-CANCER FRUITS AND VEGETABLES DIET

    There are many procedures of taking anti-cancer fruits and vegetables, but the most effective is TOTAL ANTI-CANCER FRUITS AND VEGETABLE DIETS, meaning TAKING NOTHING but proven anti-cancer fruits and vegetables, IN JUICED FORM OR AT MOST LIQUID FORM. Among the most proven anti-cancer fruits and vegetables are , carrot, tanglad, wheatgrass, beets, green tea, red grapes, etc. , such anti-cancer fruits and vegetables can be taken separately or in combination with one another. There are known such total diet, re- Breuss diet, grape diet, gerson diet, carrot diet. Say, total diets for 1 1/2 months to six months, even more.

    All chemos, radiations, surgery, to be most effective, must have follow up of the stated total anti-cancer diets . It is the follow up total anti-cancer ingredients that ensure any cancer cells left,( can never be totally eradicated by chemos, etc.) are totally wiped out. Even before such chemos, radiation, etc., such stated diet preparation is necessary, so that when chemos, etc. are applied, the cancer cells are weaken already.

    It is very difficult to change total lifestyle and eaten habits, re-total anti-cancer fruits and vegetable diets, but it is a must if a cancer patient wants to live longer, must have to make the change totally, even up to 5 years. (If in 10 years, no recurrence, the safest).

    Here is suggested modified total anti-cancer fresh fruits ands vegetables JUICE diet, daily, for 45 days plus:

    Carrot (2/3 kilo to maximum 1 kilo) juice *…. In 4-7 glasses ( drinking slowly is
    better until consumed.)
    Tanglad (chlorophyll) *2 bundles, grated and juice for drink, say 6 or 7glasses. *
    Tanglad or barley juice can be mixed with carrot juice
    Red beets * 200 grams (can also be blended, then carrots can be reduced
    accordingly)
    Celery * 140 grams.
    Green tea (tea with no sugar)- add a few drops of ripe citrus and drink as liberally
    even up to 10 glasses daily. (or follow the proven instructions of Dr. Breuss
    per below)

    Drink 1/3, more or less baking soda in glass of water, 30 minutes before
    breakfast. Cancer cells cannot survive in alkaline baking soda.

    There are many other anti-cancer fruits and vegetables, like barley, parsley,
    mangosteen, strawberries, lemon juice, raw cabbage, pineapples, barley,
    etc. that can blend and/or alternately taken with suggested carrots, tanglad
    but best in juice form. Fruits, like Red grapes, guyabano, papaya, should
    be taken at different times from carrots, tanglad.

    If patient has to take vitamin complex, vit B complex, because necessary, mix
    such with heavy syrup/juice of carrot, tanglad, with non-fat milk, so that
    whatever taken is poison or anti-oxidant to cancer. Drink after 15 minutes
    mixture.If necessary,occasionally, to take solid food, saturate
    carrot juice, beet juice, etc. for some 20 minutes before taking. Like cooking
    rice, for instance, must be cooked with heavy carrots because
    killing falcarinol is enriched,
    Anti-cancer diet is best in juice or liquid form as it is easily digestible, not solid,
    because solid foods takes time to digest , solid food can become fermented
    which is food of cancer cells. As observed by Dr. Bruess, without solid food, particularly protein, cancer cells are starved to die
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    Naturally, no meat, sugar, fat, no solid food.

    Cleansing: from time to time, take colonic, like castor oil, dulcolax, to clean the
    intestines, system.

    Take ½ teaspoonful of baking soda in glass, 30 minutes before breakfast. Alkaline
    the intestine and whole body system.

    Note that any fruits and vegetables that kill fungi, kill cancer cells, because both
    are anaerobic.

    Clean the liver. This is a separate topic but a must.

    Do not take acidic foods, food of cancer cells. Even fruits can turn acidic if worn,
    old, not ripe, not fresh.

    Naturally, there are mental preparation: free your mind, thru prayers, meditation,
    reading religious articles, Supports from relatives and friends are necessary,
    all aim to have POSITIVE ALKALINING ATTITUDE IN LIFE. NEVER FORGET
    THE GREATEST HEALER OF ALL

    Why anti-cancer fruits and vegetables have shown to cure cancer. there are fresh
    fruits and vegetables abundant with anti-cancer ingredients, re- anti- oxidant
    ingredients, alkaline ingredient, and with with killing and/or, starving
    ingredients.. All that chemos can do, are found in FRESH anti-cancer fruits
    and vegetable AND IN SAFER FORM. But the combination of modern chemos
    and complemented by anti-cancer fruits and vegetable is better: double kill.
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    The aim of total anti-cancer diet is to TOTALLY SATURATE the whole body with those three anti-cancer ingredients, change the chemistry of the body, thus it is like planting grass (cancer cells) on sand. Makes no difference what cancer stages 1, 2,3,4, a cancer patient has tilted the balance toward cure, toward life.

    All of these are just few tips. It is a take or leave it.

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    Below is taken from internet, re- total Breuss diet that has cured some 45,000 cancer patients. Total Red grapes diets have also cured several patients. Total carrot diet has legion, too. One of which is Ms. Tolentino, COA Auditor, who was given up by doctors, according to Art Besana. Thus, she drinks and eat nothing but carrots. She is still alive now. Also, an employee of Justice Hall, Roxas City, stage 4, survived by drinking and eating almost nothing but carrots, she, too, is alive today.

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    RUDOLF BREUSS - "To my mind, healing means returning a malfunctioning human body to full unrestricted function, not to remove parts of it by operation or amputation"
    How It Works
    The Breuss Total Cancer Treatment is a very rigid diet of fruits, vegetables and herbs that a person takes in liquid form for 42 days. Because cancer cells have a very different metabolism than normal cells, the Breuss diet is designed to starve the cancer cells to death by not providing any solid food proteins. But the diet does not harm normal cells.

    The Breuss Total Cancer Treatment
    The book that details the Breuss diet, The Breuss Cancer Cure, has sold over 900,000 copies, been translated into five languages, and claims to have led to over 45,000 testimonials from cured sufferers. Both the book and the diet are still actively being used. His book actually talks about multiple diseases.

    The Breuss diet is based on a 42 day fast, but the definition of "fast" used in the Breuss diet actually includes certain types of foods, such as raw fruits and vegetable juices, all taken in liquid form. The theory is that cancer cells can only live on the protein of solid food. Therefore, if you drink nothing but vegetable juice and teas for 42 days the cancerous cells die while the normal cells continue to thrive.

    "Breuss juice vegetable juice that consists of 55% red beet root, 20% carrots, 20% celery root, 3% raw potato, 2% radishes ... The potato is optional except for liver cancer where it plays an important part."

    300 grams of Red Beets
    100 grams Carrot
    100 grams Celery root
    approximately 30 grams Black Radish

    (Note: this is a very simplified explanation, you need to read the book.)

    If you look at the formula for the Breuss juice, during the fast, you will note that there is virtually no glucose or other sugars in the formula. Since his diet was probably developed by trial and error, it is curious that it evolved to exclude fruit juices and contains virtually zero glucose and other sugars. Perhaps the diet works for a different reason than Breuss thought. Cancer cells are very inefficient at processing glucose and other sugars and that the formula literally starves the cancer cells to death by depriving them of glucose and other sugars. Normal cells can survive on much less glucose and other sugars because they are much more efficient at processing these items.

    Supercharging This Treatment
    Filtered green tea (to make sure there are no particles) and filtered Essiac tea are natural enhancements to the Breuss diet. Note that grape juice is NOT mentioned . This is because grape juice is very high in glucose and other sugars this diet works because of starving the cells to death of glucose and other sugars. Because this diet seems to be low in cancer cell killing agents, the use of Green tea and Essiac Tea will kill the cancer cells as they become weak.

    Additional Notes
    • Because of the 42 day fast, a massive amount of family support will be needed for anyone on this diet. It may be necessary for someone to call the person on this diet every hour or so. Because this diet is starving the cancer cells to death, it is absolutely critical that no extra foods be taken. This is an "all or nothing" type of diet. If you make a major slip, definitely add the filtered green tea or filtered Essiac tea or both.

    • Do not drink more than half a liter a day. Don't swallow right away and salivate it well. The instructions are to take one half cup of cold kidney tea first thing in the morning. Then 30 to 60 minutes later take two cups warm herb tea made from St. John's Wort, Peppermint and Lemon Balm. After another 30 to 60 minutes take a little vegetable juice and salivate well before swallowing. Fifteen to 30 minutes later take another sip of vegetable juice. You should take some juice 10 to 15 times throughout the morning but only when you feel like it.

    In between, drink warm or cold sage tea without sugar, as much as you like. At noon take one half cup of kidney tea and again before retiring at night. In the afternoon take a few sips of tea.

    • Any liquid should be sipped and well salivated. Kidney tea should be taken only during the first three weeks of the treatment. Along with this and throughout the time of therapy drink one cup of cold Cranesbill tea (geranium robertianum) per day. Cranesbill contains a little radium. Sipping small quantities of tea and juice stimulates the flow of saliva and reduces the workload of the intestines.

    • For cancer of the bones and lungs, prepare a tea of Plantain (plantago major), Icelandic Moss, Lungwort, ground Ivy and Mullein. It does not matter if you can't get them all.

    Seep for 10 minutes and drink as much of this tea as you like, the more the better. In the case of tuberculosis you should also take one teaspoon of plantain seed along with a little water or tea.

    • During the complete treatment you should not take any food other than the vegetable juice mixture.
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    I recently come across an anti cancer vegetable soup which is fourmulated by a Japanese Teteishi Kazu. He used white carrot, white carrot leaves, carrot, burdock and mushroom as ingredients. They represent 5 different colours, White, Green, Red, Yellow and Black respectively. These 5 colours (they called these 5 elements of the universe) harmonized and maximized the effect of healing cancer.

    This 5 elements vegetable soup can be prepared at home. But some of the ingredients like white carrot leaves and burdock are not easy to find sometimes. So I used the vegetable pack instead.

    I had enlarged protate 2 years ago. Going to washroom would take more than 10 minutes. Then my friend who had breast cancer told me to try this soup. She said this soup really worked for her. I tried it for about 3 weeks and I feel the flow is smoother and stronger. At the same time, my joint pain of my fingers are gone too.

    Since they are natural organic ingredients, I have no objection to try it. It is just a bowl of soup for me.

    I do not remember the exact recipe because I use the soup pack now. For those who want to get more information, you can google 5 elements vegetable soup and get the exact recipt.

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    This is another line of bulldust.
    There is no such thing as an anti-cancer diet. There are certain foods that are associated with lower rates of certain cancers, but these are merely statistical associations. The foods are not true preventatives, or medicines. Cooked tomatoes, if a big part of the diet, will reduce the risk of prostate cancer by a few percentage points. But this is a minor effect.

    There is a good pattern of nutrition, which involves such things as 5 or more fruits and vegetables each day. if you do this, your health will be better, and there is a possibility it will reduce your chances of cancer. But this is not a preventative. No matter how carefully you organise your diet, you can get hit by cancer, any time, any age, any type.

    To try to set up an anti-cancer diet is total crap. It is much better to get good advice from professional nutritionists, and organise your diet for general health. And forget about that cancer. There are much better ways of reducing cancer risk, such as not smoking, and drinking alcohol in moderation.
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    It is not that alternative treatment can stand alone, nor can modern medical treatment is everything. Both have roles to play and must complement one another. Preparation of such anti-diets before and after actual chemos, radiations, surgery, etc. , will make most effective such application of such modern medical treatment , re-chemos, etc. The follow up, especially, of the stated total anti-cancer diets is necessary as it has the job of wiping out any straggling, weaken cancer cells still alive after chemos, etc, ( as statistics shows that cancer has a bad habit of coming back after chemos, etc, with a vengeance in the form of the deadly secondary cancer.)

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    It is not that alternative treatment can stand alone, nor can modern medical treatment is everything. Both have roles to play and must complement one another. Preparation of such anti-diets before and after actual chemos, radiations, surgery, etc. , cancer cells will make most effective such application of such modern medical treatment , re-chemos, etc. The follow up, especially, of the stated total anti-cancer diets is necessary as it has the job of wiping out any straggling, weaken cancer cells still alive after chemos, etc, ( as statistics shows that cancer has a bad habit of coming back after chemos, etc, with a vengeance in the form of the deadly secondary cancer.)

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    It is not that taking alternative medicines, a cancer pattient starves oneself, rather, it is the cancer cells that is starved or caused to death. Alternative medicines is good for the healthy cells, but bad for unwanted c-cells. That is the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    It is not that alternative treatment can stand alone, nor can modern medical treatment is everything. Both have roles to play and must complement one another. Preparation of such anti-diets before and after actual chemos, radiations, surgery, etc. , cancer cells will make most effective such application of such modern medical treatment , re-chemos, etc. The follow up, especially, of the stated total anti-cancer diets is necessary as it has the job of wiping out any straggling, weaken cancer cells still alive after chemos, etc, ( as statistics shows that cancer has a bad habit of coming back after chemos, etc, with a vengeance in the form of the deadly secondary cancer.)

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    Cite the empirical evidence that supports the claim that this specific diet has a synergistic effect with chemotherapy.
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    Merely stating that a particular diet is anti-cancer is meaningless. Such statements must be accompanied by proper scientific evidence, or they are not just worthless, but positively harmful and irresponsible. Where is your data?
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    Why anti-cancer fruits and vegetables have shown to cure cancer? It is UNQUESTIONABLE AS PROVEN IN LABORATORY that there are fresh fruits and vegetables abundant with anti-cancer ingredients, re- anti- oxidant ingredients, alkaline ingredient, and with killing and/or, starving ingredients. There are millions of shouts from people who are cured of cancer through alternative medicines, Why do we deny them. Search the internets, and you will find many testimonials.. But the combination of modern chemos, radiations, etc. complemented by anti-cancer fruits and vegetable is better: double kill.This is where most modern medicine treatments fail to see. You can eat anything, meat, etc, after chemo treatment, when there should be a rigid follow up with stated anti-cancer fruits and vegetables to clean up whatever straggling strapped cancer cells left not totally damaged by chemos, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    Why anti-cancer fruits and vegetables have shown to cure cancer? It is UNQUESTIONABLE AS PROVEN IN LABORATORY
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    Then it should be easy for you to provide the citations requested.
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    BellaVega and Healthy Guy who responded in your other gibberish cancer thread suspiciously write in your fragmented English style. It's difficult to believe there are actually three individuals out there who have been persuaded to believe this.
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    Please look up at internet, re- alternative treatment cancer survivors 1 to 10, samples below

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    We requested citations to clinical trials as you are very much aware. "Testimonials" have not and never will be valid evidence of a medical treatment.

    I ask again, please provide citations to medical trials of you proposed diet that support your extraordinary and very dubious claims of cancer fighting properties.
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    Do you believe that carrots, red grapes, green tea, agaricus mushroom, wheatgrass etc. have anti-cancer ingredients: Please answer on each. Please answer on each..

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    Do you believe that carrots, green tea, red grapes, wheatgrass, etc. have anti-cancer ingredients? Please answer.

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    What he believes is not relevant to the assertions that you are making. If you are going to make the claims you need to back them up with tested research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    Do you believe that carrots, green tea, red grapes, wheatgrass, etc. have anti-cancer ingredients? Please answer.

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    What I believe is irrelevant and asking this is completely avoiding the repeated request for citations.
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    Quoted: "Here I will explain the flaw in SR.
    Einstein say x1 = +x, x2 = +y, x3 = +z, x4 = ict
    I say 2 dimensions can't have the same sign.
    And that time has one direction is positive
    x,y & z has imaginary sign compared to eachother else they wouldn't been arbitrary +/- directional.
    ctt + ivtx + √(-i)vty + √-(√(-i))vtz = distance"

    Some semblance in logic, re- 2 dimensions cant have the same sign, but not the same. Kindly refer to posted: "A quark is complete positive and negative. Spin of one quark makes 2 quarks." New hypothesis and ideas.


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    you have two other identical threads going on this subject in there proper place in the pseudoscience subforum, why exactly did you feel the need to necromancy this ancient thread to propound your ideas more??????

    Moderators: would it be possible to get the three jsaldea12 "anticancer" threads merged in pseudo?
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    Yes, although I would say because these articles pertain to health, not harmful to health, but rather helpful SUPPLEMENTARY to modern treatments, re- chemos, radiations, ...would make modern treatments MORE EFFECTIVE, REPEAT MORE EFFECTIVE, it appears all these articles belong here. But I leave it to you to decide.

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    Reiterating: It is not that alternative treatment can stand alone, nor can modern medical treatment is everything. Both have roles to play and must complement one another. Preparation of such anti-diets before and after actual chemos, radiations, surgery, etc. , cancer cells will make most effective such application of such modern medical treatment , re-chemos, etc. The follow up, especially, of the stated total anti-cancer diets is necessary as it has the job of wiping out any straggling, weaken cancer cells still alive after chemos, etc, ( as statistics shows that cancer has a bad habit of coming back after chemos, etc, with a vengeance the dreaded secondary cancer. (To cite an example: the late most beloved lady President of the Philippines.)

    Reiterating, to be better effective, modern treatment must be SUPPLEMENT by alternative treatment. Both complement one another.

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    Please refer to article, re-An effective anti-cancer fruits and vegetable diets, reiterating to be more effective, modern treatment must be SUPPLEMENTED, repeat, SUPLEMENTED by alternative treatment. Both complement one another.

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    Let me clarify myself, the more I research, the more I analyze, the more it is becoming clear that modern treatments, re-chemos, radiations, etc. must be supplemented, a MUST, by stringent alternative treatments before and after such modern treatments to be more effective. Alternative treatment, alone, is more of hit and miss, (modern treatment, too, has records of hit and miss) that is why the symbiotic of modern treatment, which is scientific, and alternative treatment, is BEST.

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    The internet and similar sources of information are swamped with total and utter bullsh!t. When you check for information, or carry out research, you need to be highly selective in what you accept as correct. If you look only to scientific papers, reputable university publications, government research institutes and the like, you will probably not go far wrong.

    But there are also lobby groups pushing their own barrows with little or no evidence to support them, and even worse, groups that are making money out of selling garbage products.

    That is why we ask you to list your sources. That permits those of us on this forum to evaluate what you say. If you fail to list references, or if your references turn out to be non reputable sources, then we know to ignore your opinions. On the other hand, if your sources are indeed reputable, we learn to respect what you say.

    Please show references.
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    jsaldea12, Let's be for sure that your next post here includes one or more proper citations to data that are supportive of your claim(s) but have the benefit of surviving scientific scrutiny (eg. peer review, double-blind studies, etc.).

    Failing to do so will not bode well for you as an already probationary member.
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    Yes, you are right, substantiation is another matter.

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    It is UNQUESTIONABLE AS PROVEN IN LABORATORY that there are fresh fruits and vegetables abundant with anti-cancer ingredients, re- anti- oxidant ingredients, alkaline ingredient, and with killing and/or, starving ingredients.
    Anecdotal testimonies isn't the same as peer-review scientific literature from research conclusions "Proven in laboratory."

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    OP says 'good luck' at the end of his post, and the first reply (a very supportive reply, naturally) also ends with 'good luck', and has one post.

    A touch of sock puppetry..? Call me paranoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    Why chemotherapy notoriously fail in most cases?
    Two questions:

    1. What do you classify as a failure when treating cancer? Is failure based on cause of death? Survival time post diagnosis? Rate of recurrence? Rate of metastases?

    2. What percentage of attempts to treat cancer fail by your definition of the term?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox
    It is UNQUESTIONABLE AS PROVEN IN LABORATORY that there are fresh fruits and vegetables abundant with anti-cancer ingredients, re- anti- oxidant ingredients, alkaline ingredient, and with killing and/or, starving ingredients.
    Anecdotal testimonies isn't the same as peer-review scientific literature from research conclusions "Proven in laboratory."

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    My great aunt smoked for 70 years and died of Alzheimer disease at 98 years old; she was smoking anti-cancer Chesterfields.
    Brilliant

    Where can I purchase these anti-cancer cigarettes and do they do a pipe smokers tobaccy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by telephasic
    OP says 'good luck' at the end of his post, and the first reply (a very supportive reply, naturally) also ends with 'good luck', and has one post.

    A touch of sock puppetry..? Call me paranoid.
    You're not paranoid, but unless the OP had the foresight to use a proxy server, the two posters are working from two very different parts of the world.
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    Quoted:"My great aunt smoked for 70 years and died of Alzheimer disease at 98 years old; she was smoking anti-cancer Chesterfields."

    Do you know why? Your family tree has no such gene. You are lucky.

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    Let me clarify: Modern scientific treatment is best but coupled, SUPPLEMENTED, with alternative treatment makes modern treatment better. Alternative treatment is best supportive You see, I am too a scientist who never stops searching.

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    No jsaldea
    You are not a scientist. A true scientist is also a skeptic, and requires solid empirical evidence from rigorous study before he believes something to be true. No scientist accepts something simply read on a crackpot web site.
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    Do you know why precession of mercury is advanced? It is called anomalous perihelion. Why?

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    Did you know that Saturn has also had an anomalous perihelion detected?

    We can play these games all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    Let me clarify: Modern scientific treatment is best but coupled, SUPPLEMENTED, with alternative treatment makes modern treatment better. Alternative treatment is best supportive You see, I am too a scientist who never stops searching.

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    That makes no sense. So-called "alternative" treatments have no efficacy -if they did, they would simply be called "medicine" and not "alternative."

    In addition, there are many "alternative" treatments that are not only a waste of time and money, but dangerous as well. Or they may not interact well with actual, evidence-based medicines. There are, after all, "alternatives" that have chemical properties which affect or alter body chemistry as toxins.

    Therefore, it would be ignorant an completely non-scientific to assert that real medicines are "best supplemented with 'alternative' treatments."

    There simply is no genuine alternative to actual, evidence-based medicine. Either a treatment is medicine or supported by data or it isn't. If it is, it isn't an "alternative" treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    Let me clarify: Modern scientific treatment is best but coupled, SUPPLEMENTED, with alternative treatment makes modern treatment better. Alternative treatment is best supportive You see, I am too a scientist who never stops searching.

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    How does this clarify your initial post? I asked you two questions, the answers to which would clarify your position. You didn't answer them, which suggests you haven't bothered to verify your initial position.

    Again:

    1. What do you classify as a failure when treating cancer?

    2. What percentage of attempts to treat cancer fail by your definition of the term?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsaldea12
    Quoted:"My great aunt smoked for 70 years and died of Alzheimer disease at 98 years old; she was smoking anti-cancer Chesterfields."

    Do you know why? Your family tree has no such gene. You are lucky.

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    You've completely missed telephasic's point. You were asked for evidence to back up your claims and eventually you posted a load of single-incident anecdotes. This is exceptionally weak evidence. Telephasic countered by giving an equally weak anecdote, and you promptly highlighted how weak that evidence is. Effectively you just shot yourself in the foot.

    I genuinely can't believe I had to explain this to you.
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    You will, of course, notice that jsaldea has not supplied references, either. Basically, the guy has crackpot beliefs and clings to them by a process of faith rather than science.
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    Reiterating, modern treatments, re-chemos, radiations, etc. NEEDS to be supplemented, SUPPORTED by alternative treatments before and after such modern treatments to make it more effective. Alternative treatment, alone, is more of hit and miss, that is why the combination of modern treatment, which is scientific, and supportive alternative treatment, APPEARS BEST.

    Again reiterating, cannot find peer-evaluation evidential supports. Better let this idea at rest.

    All planets have anomalous perihelion. Why? this is straying topic. Period.

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    Please supply references.
    Bald statements are meaningless.
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    The topic has not strayed. You made an unsupported claim to which you have no good reason to side with. Show us the references or do not post here again. If your next post in this or the other thread you have in pseudoscience isn't supported with an actual reference, your account will be suspended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    The topic has not strayed. You made an unsupported claim to which you have no good reason to side with. Show us the references or do not post here again. If your next post in this or the other thread you have in pseudoscience isn't supported with an actual reference, your account will be suspended.
    Would it be possible to merge the two hear and the one in Health & Medicine into one topic?
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    Done. And the thread is aptly re-named.
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