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  1. #1 The Science of Reincarnation 
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    The following is an excerpt from the book Famous Direct Reincarnations...

    Theory & 15 Principles of Reincarnation

    Six of the principles of the theory & 15 principles of reincarnation are scientific theories that also directly apply to reincarnation…

    (1) Energy is the property something has that enables it to do work. The basic forms of energy are kinetic energy, potential energy, and rest energy.

    (2) The law of conservation of energy states that energy can not be created or destroyed, although it can change form. (The law of conservation of mass states that matter can not be created or destroyed, although it can change form.)

    (3) The law of information states that information can be created, but not destroyed, although it can be transferred.

    (4) The law of conservation of consciousness states that consciousness cannot be created or destroyed, although it can be transformed.

    (5) The law of wave/particle duality states that all matter & energy is both waves and particles. Therefore, this life is a particle in the wave of our eternal life. In classical physics, waves transport energy, but not matter, from one region to another. 19th century physicists found that light sometimes acted like a wave and sometimes it acted as a particle.

    (6) The theory of luck provides the equation of how our karma is reflected back by the 'matrix' or ‘universal quantum computer’ (God)

    Theory of Luck
    luck100 = karma5 x [desire4 + actions4 + ability4+ contributions4 + blessings4]


    There are nine additional principles or factors as to how we are given/choose a new body…

    (1) Our spirit is attracted to ‘our physical Creator’: sun, planet, & moon + our parents & relatives.

    (2) Our soul is attracted to our DNA (ancestors). We keep our talents, capabilities, interests, and personalities from previous lives and add new physical attributes, talents, and capabilities through our DNA and experiences. It’s always easier to relearn than learn! Besides our parents, we also ‘inherit’ ALL our ancestors through DNA.

    (3) Our energy is attracted to our environment: physical location, parents’ views, religion, politics, friends, schools, etc.

    (4) Our spirit is attracted to the date of birth - our date of birth is very important!

    (5) Our soul is attracted to the name our creators (parents/ancestors) bestow on us – its meaning and gematria(8,74).

    (6) We ‘come back’ to continue to improve the 'system', to continue our missions, to ‘fix the mistakes’ of previous lives. Earth – Leave It Better Than You Found It!

    (7) We’re reincarnated to continue our love relationships – ‘true love never dies’ (mates & offspring) – to propagate and evolve the species.

    (8) We return as human (if we pass the test of being ‘good’ for the system) because it’s the greatest way the universal quantum computer (God) has devised for energy to simultaneously experience the physical and spiritual universes.

    (9) Our spirit/soul is attracted to physical characteristics, i.e. male or female. God uses the theory of, “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it”.



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    I see no "science," therefore you thread title is either erroneous or a lie.


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    What does the book say about when the soul reincarnates?
    Is it
    a) moment of conception
    b) moment of birth
    c) 6 months after conception
    d) other?
    What does it say about the period between death and rebirth (the Bardo)?
    Is it
    a) instantly
    b) 49 days (as in the Bardo Thodel or Tibetan Book of the Dead)
    c) 9 months
    d) other?
    A case was once made out for Newton being the reincarnation of Galileo. I seem to remember it was Bronowski in his Ascent of Man series who stated that Newton was born 9 months after Galileo. However Galileo died on 8th January 1642 and Newton was born 25th December 1642, although a revision of the calendar now puts it in January 1643. So even if Galileo's soul was floating around for 49 days and then incarnated at the moment of conception, there is still a time discrepancy.
    This is really confusing!
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    If you can point me to a serious textook or article published in a peer-reviewed journal that mentions these laws:

    (3) The law of conservation of consciousness states that consciousness cannot be created or destroyed, although it can be transformed.

    (4) The law of information states that information can be created, but not destroyed, although it can be transferred.

    (6) The theory of luck provides the equation of how our karma is reflected back by the 'matrix' or ‘universal quantum computer’ (God)
    I may start calling this a science. Furthermore:

    (5) The law of wave/particle duality states that all matter & energy is both waves and particles. Therefore, this life is a particle in the wave of our eternal life.
    This is just arbitrary, has nothing to do with the wave-particle duality and I have never seen proof of our eternal life.
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  6. #5 Some recognize truth - others have an agenda 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    I see no "science"
    Skinwanker,

    You're blind to the truth and not interested in pursuing any truths that conflict with your narrow-minded view of this universe - you've proved that many times. You're responsible for deleting the thread: George Washington reincarnated as Robert E. Lee and deleting Freemasonry and Reincarnation, and then accuse me of not have any supporting evidence and spreading lies - how disgusting! You're the worst kind of 'scientist' and an obvious propagandist. Your prejudice against 'God' and all that are religious is well-documented.

    Everyone,

    I tweaked the op - better read it before skilwanker deletes it. This moderator has an agenda and it has nothing to do with doing 'right'.
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  7. #6 The period in-between 'direct reincarnations' 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox
    What does the book say about when the soul reincarnates? Is it
    a) moment of conception
    b) moment of birth
    c) 6 months after conception
    d) other?
    What does it say about the period between death and rebirth (the Bardo)?
    Is it
    a) instantly
    b) 49 days (as in the Bardo Thodel or Tibetan Book of the Dead)
    c) 9 months
    d) other?
    A case was once made out for Newton being the reincarnation of Galileo. I seem to remember it was Bronowski in his Ascent of Man series who stated that Newton was born 9 months after Galileo. However Galileo died on 8th January 1642 and Newton was born 25th December 1642, although a revision of the calendar now puts it in January 1643. So even if Galileo's soul was floating around for 49 days and then incarnated at the moment of conception, there is still a time discrepancy. This is really confusing!
    ox,
    Before I answer those two questions, what's your research tell you? With a Google search, I got: The Tibetan word Bardo means literally "intermediate state" - also translated as "transitional state" or "in-between state" or "liminal state". I wasn't familiar with the term. I will confidently state that Isaac Newton was NOT the reincarnation of Galileo - Benjamin Franklin was, although there may have been another short 'direct reincarnation' in-between. Leonardo da Vinci was reincarnated as Galileo.
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    There is still no scientific content in this thread. There is no evidence, and there is no reason to believe that reincarnation is possible. First off, you need to prove that souls exist, and that hasn't been done. The whole argument is based in spirituality, which is itself a pseudo-scientific venture. SkinWalker is simply calling your posts as he sees it, and, quite frankly, the same way the well respected members of the forum see them. As pure poppycock, and bullshit. It's not his "agenda" pushing his actions, it's his rationality. Prove your assertions scientifically, and then we'll pay heed. Present baseless bullshit, and we'll call it baseless bullshit. That's just the way it works here.
    Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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  9. #8 Re: The Science of Reincarnation 
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    I totally support Skinwalker. There is no science here. As I have mentioned repeatedly: Science does not mean talking about topics that also scientists work on. Science is a method to find the laws of Nature. As long as this method is applied, you can talk about anything, and still call it science.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Watson
    (5) The [i]law of wave/particle duality states that all matter & energy is both waves and particles. Therefore, this life is a particle in the wave of our eternal life.
    This is a typical case of a "non sequitur", i.e. there is no logical conclusion - even though it is implied by the word "therefore". It is an often used trick to suggest a logical conclusion, when there is none. What has life to do with the wave-particle duality? Nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Watson
    (6) The theory of luck provides the equation of how our karma is reflected back by the 'matrix' or ‘universal quantum computer’ (God)
    Nonsense. Such a theory does not exist. Neither does any of the esotheric terms you use here.

    The rest of the post is just spiritualistic babble without meaning. None of these postulates have a scientific backing. Show us a scientific background, and we will start taking you seriously.
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