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    Ok i was watching a show about Yes 2012, and in this show they said that the Gravitational forces on the earth for the day and possibly days around the Galactic Allinment will increase by x12, for All planets towards the sun, Ok here's another show about meteor strikes, most planets show MASS strikes, But most strikes are from around 20-50,000 yrs or more old, But most a in a short period of time, Question: Could the Extra Gravtational Forces of the Sun during the allignment pull More than Normal amounts of astroids from the diffrent belt durning this phase which would cause More strikes in a short time like is shown to have happened on planets before? Could the reason the strikes on Ours and other planets seemed to have heppened more frequently every few thousand years be from the Suns effect during these alignments? Just wondering..


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    Ok i was watching a show about Yes 2012, and in this show they said that the Gravitational forces on the earth for the day and possibly days around the Galactic Allinment will increase by x12, for All planets towards the sun, Ok here's another show about meteor strikes, most planets show MASS strikes, But most strikes are from around 20-50,000 yrs or more old, But most a in a short period of time, Question: Could the Extra Gravtational Forces of the Sun during the allignment pull More than Normal amounts of astroids from the diffrent belt durning this phase which would cause More strikes in a short time like is shown to have happened on planets before? Could the reason the strikes on Ours and other planets seemed to have heppened more frequently every few thousand years be from the Suns effect during these alignments? Just wondering..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    ......and in this show they said that the Gravitational forces on the earth for the day and possibly days around the Galactic Allinment will increase by x12, .
    There is no Galactic Alignment. (To be more accurate there are a number of 'events' that could be called a galactic alignment. These either occur on a regualr and routine basis and are of no siginficance, or - such as crossing the Galactic Plane - takes thousands, even tens of thousands of years to occur.)
    Nothing will increase the gravitational forces on the Earth by even 1/12, let alone 12 X, unless a massive black hole, or a rogue giant planet passes through the solar system. There is zero evidence to suggest that is likely and zero evidence to suggest such an event is imminent.
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    . Ok here's another show about meteor strikes, most planets show MASS strikes, But most strikes are from around 20-50,000 yrs or more old, But most a in a short period of time,
    1. Most planets do not show mass strikes. The Terrestrial planets do. The giant planets do not, so most is n exaggeration.
    2. The phrasing 'from around 20-50,000 yrs or more old' suggests a lot of the mass strikes date from that time. They don't. Most of the mass strikes date from the Heavy Bombardment Period, approximately 3.8 billion years ago. The short period of time they occurred in was probably at least ten million and perhaps over one hundred million years. Short in geological and astronomical terms. Not short in the sense you appear to mean.
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    .Question: Could the Extra Gravtational Forces of the Sun during the allignment pull More than Normal amounts of astroids from the diffrent belt durning this phase which would cause More strikes in a short time like is shown to have happened on planets before?
    Since there is no alignment, since there is no extra gravitational force, the answer is NO.
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    Could the reason the strikes on Ours and other planets seemed to have heppened more frequently every few thousand years be from the Suns effect during these alignments? Just wondering..
    Several researchers have tried to identify periodicity in the impacts of comets and asteroids. They have variously suggested a small dwarf companion star on an eccentric orbit, or a further giant planet orbiting far out. The periodicity is not even established. While some researchers maintain it is real, others reject it as mere chance variations in an uncertain data set.
    I suspect their may be an underlying periodicity, but I remain to be convinced. (For your information the source of impacting bolids is much more likely to be the Kuiper Belt or the Oort Cloud than the asteroid belt.)

    To summarise the first documentary you saw was nonsense as science. I hope it was at least entertaining.
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    so your saying the alignment the mayanz have on there calander and that discovery channel has like 6 documentries about is Fake? dude do you watch the news? its Real the planets do align and every 36,000 yrs they have a galactic alignment, every 3000 yrs there a solar alignment, these are PROVEN facts, to say these dont exist isnt giving me much belief in anything your saying.. ty Next
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    so your saying the alignment the mayanz have on there calander and that discovery channel has like 6 documentries about is Fake? dude do you watch the news? its Real the planets do align and every 36,000 yrs they have a galactic alignment, every 3000 yrs there a solar alignment, these are PROVEN facts, to say these dont exist isnt giving me much belief in anything your saying.. ty Next
    Dude. Do you know what is aligning with what, according to the Mayan calendar? If you have watched 6 documentaries you should know that. Now explain how that has anything to do with meteor strikes.
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    I'll venture a guess to suggest that he thinks that when things align from our arbitrary viewing angle that this somehow magnifies the gravitational pull in our galactic locale... Basically, he thinks that the force of gravity is stronger because... from our earth-based perspective... the spheres in the sky seem to line up... that gravity is stronger somehow then than it is when the planets don't appear aligned from our arbitrary viewing angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    so your saying the alignment the mayanz have on there calander and that discovery channel has like 6 documentries about is Fake?
    Fake may be a little strong, since it requires deliberate falsification. Mistaken interpretation, yes. Ignorant assessment of vague observations, certainly. Comprehensive misunderstanding of scientific realities, absolutely. Deliberate deception? Only in certain instances.
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    dude do you watch the news?
    Certainly I watch the news, but it hardly a reliable source of scientific knowledge.
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    its Real the planets do align and every 36,000 yrs they have a galactic alignment, every 3000 yrs there a solar alignment, these are PROVEN facts, to say these dont exist isnt giving me much belief in anything your saying.. ty Next
    Alignments which have zero relationship to any change in gravitational force. What about the alignment of the pole with circumpolar stars other than Polaris? What happens with that alignment? What is the effect of that on gravitational alignment? Why are you picking out these particular alignments from the thousands that exist? By what mechanism do these alignments generate gravitational increases?

    Please, the whole thing is nonsense. The documentaries are entertainment, not cutting edge science. Dude, get an education. You may find it rewarding.
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    Ty everyone but Ophi, Yes you all are correct, I dont know all see all or understand all, Knowbody does, if you want to talk MMA or Military tactic id be glad to show you how to survive someplace after the armagedon, LOL, But Ophi, you should read the Rule especially the BOLD one's where it says No Flaming, just because you smarter In some area's of interest to you, doesnt mean you can talk down at someone, (which is FLAMING) even if you try to be sly and use big words people with a degree or something nned to understand, just say it you think im dumb and an ignorant idiot, stop trying to be cool!! In that aspect, in life outside your house and you science lab, what would happen to you if me and you were put into non scientific, or survival situations, I'd Rule you die, so stop flaming or people can still brake it down lameman terms that even you can understand without threats
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    Ty everyone but Ophi, Yes you all are correct, I dont know all see all or understand all, Knowbody does, if you want to talk MMA or Military tactic id be glad to show you how to survive someplace after the armagedon, LOL, But Ophi, you should read the Rule especially the BOLD one's where it says No Flaming, just because you smarter In some area's of interest to you, doesnt mean you can talk down at someone, (which is FLAMING) even if you try to be sly and use big words people with a degree or something nned to understand, just say it you think im dumb and an ignorant idiot, stop trying to be cool!! In that aspect, in life outside your house and you science lab, what would happen to you if me and you were put into non scientific, or survival situations, I'd Rule you die, so stop flaming or people can still brake it down lameman terms that even you can understand without threats


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    Ty everyone but Ophi, Yes you all are correct, I dont know all see all or understand all, Knowbody does, if you want to talk MMA or Military tactic id be glad to show you how to survive someplace after the armagedon, LOL, But Ophi, you should read the Rule especially the BOLD one's where it says No Flaming, just because you smarter In some area's of interest to you, doesnt mean you can talk down at someone, (which is FLAMING) even if you try to be sly and use big words people with a degree or something nned to understand, just say it you think im dumb and an ignorant idiot, stop trying to be cool!! In that aspect, in life outside your house and you science lab, what would happen to you if me and you were put into non scientific, or survival situations, I'd Rule you die, so stop flaming or people can still brake it down lameman terms that even you can understand without threats
    Ophi was perfectly polite to you, did not patronise you and used "big words" only where needed. There were absolutely no threats. Your response suggests you've got a chip on your shoulder- you seem to have a big problem with these clever types with their book learning, spoiling all your fun by pointing out that documentaries and the news aren't always accurate. You came on here and asked a question. Nobody had to answer you, but they did. They were good enough to answer you fully and politely. If you disagree with the answers, then that's okay. You can make a logical argument back at them or you can leave it alone. But if you start throwing around accusations of flaming and threats, insist on pushing this childish anti-intellectual crap, then we're going to stop being polite, we're going to stop answering you questions and eventually we'll just stop you posting here.

    You don't seem to like us smarty pants degree people much, so I'm sure that thought doesn't bother you.

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    We seem to have been blessed with a hole bunch of twitchy adolescents as of late. What fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCrow187
    But Ophi, you should read the Rule especially the BOLD one's where it says No Flaming,
    I did not intend to flame you. Regular readers of this forum will know that if I had flamed you your pants would still be on fire. I've read and re-read my posts and cannot see what in them led you to believe I was flaming. Nevertheless I apologise for giving you that impression. My intention is to educate, not alienate.

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    just say it you think im dumb and an ignorant idiot,
    I think you are misinformed, as are the majority of the population, as to the nature of science and the value of documentaries. I watch many Discovery Channel documentaries. I enjoy them. I learn things from them. However, I use them only as a starting point. If a 'fact' in the program is novel, or contentious I will seek out confirmation from more reliable sources.

    My remarks to you in my earlier posts were designed to encourage you to adopt the same approach. I regret that didn't work and you chose to take a different view of things. You still have the option of thinking about this in a mature, level headed, scientific fashion. Or not. Your choice.
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