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    hi, i was just wanting to know if anyone had any crazy ideas on this area, for example electromagnetism???


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    Quote Originally Posted by ASTROPHYSICIST137
    hi, i was just wanting to know if anyone had any crazy ideas on this area, for example electromagnetism???
    Well, I doubt electromagnatism would be how, but it may be a side effect. I suspect that if anyone ever discovered how to do such a process, it would involve learning how to control what we think of as gravity, or NIPD (Net inertial Propulsion Device). it is beyond any known sciences we possess in the public domain.


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    coanda effect maybe? Im not quite sure. take a look on the application part

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect
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    UFOs are "unidentified flying objects," often a misnomer since there are many explanations for phenomena cited to be "UFOs" that are neither "flying" nor "objects."

    Given these explanations, the propulsion of such phenomena would be light. There are many observed "UFOs" for which the more parsimonious and reasoned explanation would be reflected light. Light from car headlights bouncing off low clouds or atmospheric ice; light reflecting from Venus or the Moon; light reflecting through a window -more of a refraction really.

    Other, more reasoned explanations for "UFOs" include delusion, false memory, and misidentified visual phenomena, so for these the propulsion systems would be neurochemical. Ion gates for calcium, sodium, etc. being affected by chemicals in the brain; synapses firing due to re-uptake or even inhibited re-uptake of chemicals like endorphines, dopamine, seratonin, etc.

    I think this thread is more appropriate in the Behavior and Psychology section rather than an engineering one, but perhaps we can see how it plays out.
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    First provide us with a UFO vheicle and we will get on it.
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    First off, what I say in this post is totaly unsientific stuff, so don't get at me with your pitchforks and torches.

    Let's for a moment imagine gravity is on the far side after gamma rays and such, small particles that radiates and can penetrate anything, therefor creating a sucktion/sinkhole for things to fall into.

    Observing magnetism you can either attract or repulse tihngs, that's might what be the case with anti-grav-levitation-engines.
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    gravity attracts only
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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzlooney
    gravity attracts only
    Can you prove that with scientific methodology?

    We only know of it as attracting. Maybe we just haven't discovered a gravitational force that repels yet.
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    there was a guy who made one using ionization which flew (and very fast too), only thing is it needed a lot of power to do so.

    the shape of a traditional flying saucer can be described as a flying wing so this should make it more efficient.

    a really cool way to do it is with propellors such as the HexaKopter. If you watch the video it has a vertical asscent like nothing else.............and a domed centre much like a traditional UFO.

    Im sure there would be many ways to propel one in the real world but i don't think there is much call for it or it has proven impossible with current technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    UFOs are "unidentified flying objects," often a misnomer since there are many explanations for phenomena cited to be "UFOs" that are neither "flying" nor "objects."

    Given these explanations, the propulsion of such phenomena would be light. There are many observed "UFOs" for which the more parsimonious and reasoned explanation would be reflected light. Light from car headlights bouncing off low clouds or atmospheric ice; light reflecting from Venus or the Moon; light reflecting through a window -more of a refraction really.

    Other, more reasoned explanations for "UFOs" include delusion, false memory, and misidentified visual phenomena, so for these the propulsion systems would be neurochemical. Ion gates for calcium, sodium, etc. being affected by chemicals in the brain; synapses firing due to re-uptake or even inhibited re-uptake of chemicals like endorphines, dopamine, seratonin, etc.

    I think this thread is more appropriate in the Behavior and Psychology section rather than an engineering one, but perhaps we can see how it plays out.
    Your suggestion for where this post is appropriate is uncalled-for. The problem statement poses an engineering related challenge that some might consider a fun exercise. The third paragraph makes your response more appropriate elsewhere.

    Anyway, Electromagnetism is certainly a possible form of propulsion for a UFO. In my opinion, it is the only form that would allow behaviors descriptive of UFOs assuming you require the propulsion system to work in space.

    Methods that involve light propulsion depend upon an outside source of light or heating air to a plama state with focused laser beams, causing the air itself to explode in order to produce propulsion force. One is essentially a light-sail while the other is environmentally dependent.

    The method involves supercooled magnets and does not require a medium that renders the UFO dependent upon its surrounding environment. Hence, it can hover over a corn field on earth, fly away from the surface and continually fly through space. A pulsating, supercooled magnet solenoid, can produce a force useful for propulsion (in theory) that only requires electricity to run. In order to generate the power required to run the propulsion device, a nuclear reactor could be used to extract energy from fission of enriched uranium. Small amounts of Uranium-235 could power the UFO for long periods of time.
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    How about rotating superconductors? Superconductivity/superfluidity?

    I'm pretty new at physics
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    In many UFO reports where spacecraft have been observed, there are electrical anomolies such as machines, car engines stopping and lost time. These may be indicators as to what sort of fields the spacecraft is emitting to move around.
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    [quote="TheDr.Spo"]
    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    Anyway, Electromagnetism is certainly a possible form of propulsion for a UFO. In my opinion, it is the only form that would allow behaviors descriptive of UFOs assuming you require the propulsion system to work in space.
    I believe it would be a combination of electromagnetism and inertial propulsion on a nano scale.

    I've had the basic concept in my head for over ten years and don't exactly know how/where to get it out.
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