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  1. #1 The Collective Unconscious - Holy Spirit 
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    I was just reading this book and came across this, and it is one of the most interesting thoughts I have seen in a long time. I thought it would be nice to share it with you all and get some input. This book has been a very interesting read. It incorporates both science and religion, making the two, one.

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    The collective unconscious: In the last few generations, we discovered two invisible forces; electricity and electromagnetic (radio) waves. No one believed they existed a few hundred years ago. In this generation, we are going to discover a new invisible force I call the collective unconscious mind. It is the force, or part of the force, that gives us continuity from one life to another. Without it, there could be no evolution.

    Holy Spirit: The Bible calls it the Holy Spirit and the book of life. Just as the Bible says, it contains everything we do and controls our evolution.

    Emergence: A guiding force keeps us on track. It is the only part of our mind that is not destroyed when our bodies die and can pass through physical death with us. It is outside of our bodies and independent of our bodies.

    X factor: It is why ants, bees, a school of fish or a flock of birds move like one big organism. It is why in the right environment, DNA and life will form from the random movement of inorganic molecules. There is a subtle intelligence. Why is it that everything seems to be guided by a God or some kind or universal, omnipresent intelligence? A new science called “emergence” is studying the phenomena. Most things can be explained by known forces, but not everything.

    The reason we have not discovered this force yet is that it is very subtle, even though it controls literally everything. It will be impossible to detect or measure on any instruments we have now. We cannot see it, but we can see what it does. We know it exists because we can see its effects. This X factor, along with random chance and the survival of the fittest, has resulted in the evolution of life. The collective unconscious is this X factor, or is at the very least interacting with it. It connects us on a subconscious level with the minds of all other life.

    Dark energy: Scientists say that more than ninety-percent of the universe is made up of something they call dark matter and dark energy. They know it is there because of its gravitational effects on things they can see, but that is all they know about it. They are saying they do not know what ninety-percent of the universe is. This dark energy could be where we find the collective unconscious. We know the collective unconscious exists for the same reasons; we can see its effect on life. At this time, the only way we can know the collective unconscious mind exists is that it has to. We needed help to get where we are now.

    Old man in the sky: It would be easy to imagine that the helper is a God that looks like us (our image), but there is no evidence of that. It has to be more like a very subtle invisible form of energy, like gravity and/or electromagnetic waves, or something we have not discovered yet that is like them, in that it affects life.

    Putting the force that controls life in a human body worked in the ancient past, because primitive people did not know about invisible forms of energy. Unknown forces of nature were explained by saying a God did it. Since then, our knowledge has evolved and progressed. Now we know about unseen forces. We know that they are just a form of energy.

    Intelligent design exists; religions just do not know what it is yet.


    The collective unconscious is not alive. It is just a part of our minds, an extension of our minds, not a separate life form. The collective unconscious is something like gravity that connects all of us. Jesus calls it the Holy Spirit.

    Jesus said, “The Holy Spirit will teach you all things.”

    Carl Jung also used the term “collective unconscious.” I use it to describe something much more powerful than he does. I use the same term because it best describes the phenomena I am attempting to explain. We do not know much about it yet. That will change in this generation. I have a theory.

    Universal mind: Just as magnetic tape and disks store information on computers, gravity and/or a similar form of all pervasive energy could collect and store all our minds’ information. It also could process the information by mixing with the collective unconscious of all other life on Earth and even with life in other worlds. Like a computer, it can be accessed and used to translate information back to people as inspiration, etc. Some people can tune in and download a revelation or a song, a work of art, or a book like this one. All we can be sure of is it is possible to communicate with some kind of universal mind.
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    From page 75 of the free book, The Present (with religion), at http://www.thetruthcontest.com

    Please share your thoughts on this!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jethro Tull

    The collective unconscious: In the last few generations, we discovered two invisible forces; electricity and electromagnetic (radio) waves. No one believed they existed a few hundred years ago. In this generation, we are going to discover a new invisible force I call the collective unconscious mind. It is the force, or part of the force, that gives us continuity from one life to another. Without it, there could be no evolution.

    Please share your thoughts on this!
    Well, there is a problem with your use of the word force. In physics it has a very specific meaning which isn't applicable to how you are using it, and that make your talk of a "force" of the collective unconscious being another one of those to sound really strange because it obviously isn't another one of those but something very very different.

    Do you see this unconscious collective mind as something out there or as a phenomenon of human community? Now I consider the community to a form of life for I would compare it to the development of multi-cellular organims. And just has we see multicellular organisms exhibiting a coevolution and a community identity, I think it is reasonable to see human communities have developments and an identity which gives this idea of a collective unconscious some kind of concrete meaning. What do you think?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
    Do you see this unconscious collective mind as something out there or as a phenomenon of human community? Now I consider the community to a form of life for I would compare it to the development of multi-cellular organims. And just has we see multicellular organisms exhibiting a coevolution and a community identity, I think it is reasonable to see human communities have developments and an identity which gives this idea of a collective unconscious some kind of concrete meaning. What do you think?
    I see it as an emergent phenomenon that connects us all on a subconscious level. It is what forms our minds from the day we are born, as we interact with the collective unconscious, the collective mind, throughout our whole lives. It connects all conscious life, but the introduction of language has put us more in contact with it than any other species of animal. We are becoming consciously aware of it because of the evolution of communication technology. The Internet is our effort to connect as one mind, just as the Cambrian explosion brought the coming-together of single-cell organisms to multi-cell organisms. We are like separate individuals, and when we become conscious of how the collective unconscious affects us and forms our minds, we will be as one mind. This book goes far more into it though, saying that it determines where and what we will be reborn as. Check it out; it is one of the best things I have ever read, even though it is not over-intellectualized and traditionally organized.
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    Sorry, but I don't see any science in this and certainly nothing resembling a testable hypothesis. Moving to pseudo.
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    Makes me think of a time travel theory. If you believe in non-contradictory time travel (The ability to travel time, so long as you adhere to the constraint of not contradicting the known past), then it may be that all of humanity eventually unites and reaches a higher level of communication.

    In some cases, rare cases, maybe some data gets sent back in time, which would explain psychic phenomena.

    As far as death, maybe the final generation ultimately decides to come back and retrieve the most essential parts of their ancestors' consciousnesses, copying data out of their brains just before they die, then converting it back to a physical format so they can give them another body in the future. A ghost would be a person who can't quite handle the transition, and keeps trying to time travel back to the era that's familiar to them, but due to the limitations of time travel, they're only able to do very limited things, like manipulating nearly undetectable amounts of energy.
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