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    I recently noticed a similarity between the bible and physics. What I would like to know is, is the similarity significant and what is the probability that it is a coincidence.

    The following is a brief outline of the similarity:

    Both the bible and physics state that the fundamental forces of nature are four.
    Physics calls them: strong, weak, electromagnetic and gravity.
    The bible calls them: father, son, holy ghost and the devil.
    Three of the forces are unified; physics GUTs (grand unified theories) the bible; holy trinity, with the other force being the odd man out: gravity/devil.

    We can compare them directly thus:
    The father is usually the strong member of the family.
    The son is usually the weak member of the family.
    The devil is the weakest of the four and so is gravity.
    The holy ghost and electromagnetism is the one left and both are made of two words.

    The devil is the force of darkness and gravity makes black holes (darkness).
    The son sits on the right and the weak force is asymmetric.
    The holy ghost and electromagnetism are both forces of light>
    The bible says the son is our saviour. When a star goes supernova it is the weak force that saves some of the matter. We are made from this saved matter. The weak force is our saviour.

    Both the bible and physics state that the universe came into being out of nothing and that once the four forces were unified, with the first force to separate being the devil/ gravity.

    The bible and physics state that to ascend into heaven we must overcome the devil/gravity.

    The son left behind 12 fundamental apostles all male. The weak force left behind 12 fundamental particles of matter (male = matter, female = antimatter).

    One of the apostles commits suicide. One of the particles decays. (This is the quark that causes the proton to decay).
    Judah received 30 pieces of silver. The proton is estimated to decay in 1030 years. (However silver has atomic number 47, the number of weeks in a lunar year. At the time of Judah they used the lunar year).

    The similarity does not end there. The Lordís Prayer ends thus:

    For thyn is the kingdom = for yours is the universe
    Of power = power is energy E
    And Glory = glory is matter which has mass M
    For ever and ever = ever is the speed of light C2

    Yours is the universe of E=MC2


    My inclination is that they are similar because they are both a product of the human mind. Would appreciate your comments & feedback


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhorse
    My inclination is that they are similar because they are both a product of the human mind. Would appreciate your comments & feedback
    The bible is the product of multiple human minds but physics isn't. It's properties have been investigated and described by humans, but that's not the same as a fabrication. We can't "interpret" physics so that there are four forces or that this or that force are related or unified. No more so than we could interpret the number of sides on a die, we just call what we can see.


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    crazyhorse, speaks for itself
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    Well, the basic idea is maybe not too dumb, at least, it has been brought forward by others. A similar approach is portrayed in this book:

    Bruno Binggeli - Primum mobile

    The idea is that mankind can only describe nature via models that are mere projections of the human mind on nature. The "real" nature cannot be comprehended, but the models are a tool to understand at least the principles. Therefore, it might not be surprising that many fundamental constructs of ideas share similar patterns. Maybe not in the way the OP suggests them, but the principle might still hold. And in a sense, even the fundamental laws of physics are only little more than a mathematical representation of a model describing nature. The very fact that physicists are trying to combine those four fundamental forces can already be regarded as an example for this model making.

    I am not saying that I agree with this theory - and definitely not with the book I mentioned - but it can be seen as a fairly common branch of philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmaelblues
    crazyhorse, speaks for itself
    True. Crazy at one end and out the other comes horsesh....
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    don't know who first came up with the following saying, but i think it applies in this case :

    "reality is what remains when you stop believing in it"

    physics describes reality - as to what the bible describes, that's anybody's guess
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    don't know who first came up with the following saying, but i think it applies in this case :

    "reality is what remains when you stop believing in it"

    physics describes reality - as to what the bible describes, that's anybody's guess
    True, if you only regard the matter of investigation itself. However, how these two disciplines are put into concepts of a human mind might have something in common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    don't know who first came up with the following saying, but i think it applies in this case :

    "reality is what remains when you stop believing in it"

    physics describes reality - as to what the bible describes, that's anybody's guess
    There's this one, which happens to be one of my favorites. It's so similar, it's probably what you're thinking of.
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Plilip K. Dick
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    that's the one - i was merely quoting from the sieve i jokingly call my "memory"
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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