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    Hello all.

    I am new to this forum and have joined specifically to gauge the community's opinions on the science, history and practice of Remote Viewing. As a self-trained remote viewer of nearly 6 years and advocate for the field and pratcice of RV I am particularly keen in engaging with anyone with an interest in the field who may wish to experiment by tasking me with a target and reviewing the results via a public forum.

    By definition Remote Viewing requires that the viewer

    a) knows nothing about the target he/she has been asked to describe
    b) has his/her data qualatively analysed and assessed (post submission) via comparison with the feedback provided

    I appreciate that the field of RV has often been smirched by various hoodlums claiming all sorts of omniscient nonsense, and that more often that not there is some kind of sale involved, be it through the offer of online training, DVDs etc

    I offer none of this. I have nothing to sell and make no wild claims about my own abilities. That it is perfectly possible to access nonlocal information about targets distant in space and time, often in exceptional detail, I am in no doubt. My years as a practicing viewer have lead me to a total acceptance of the reality of the phenomenon, whilst fostering a mild to moderate frustration that by and large the scientific paradigms of the day (not to mention the public at large) denounce RV as mere quackery. My purpose here is to

    a) guage the views of an acual online scientific community with regards Remote Viewing
    b) offer myself as an experimental subject should anyone wish to conduct some trials.

    Trials need require nothing more than the choosing of a target via selection of an image (either on-line or from a personal selection), the association of this target with a set of 2 random 4 digit numbers, and my eventual submission of data pertaining to the targets. From this alone may my merit (or demerit) be gained. All of this to be done publically, transparently, (and with strict adherence to protocol) on this thread.

    I await the response of anyone with an interest.

    Bets regards,

    Gulliver


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver
    Hello all.
    Welcome.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver
    I am new to this forum and have joined specifically to gauge the community's opinions on the science, history and practice of Remote Viewing.
    I am very much afraid that the absence of any response to your post is an accurate reflection of two things: the forum member's general low opinion of remote viewing and their impeccable politeness. By not posting any comments they can avoid saying they think the idea is crap and that anyone who believes in it is a loony.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver
    As a self-trained remote viewer of nearly 6 years and advocate for the field and pratcice of RV I am particularly keen in engaging with anyone with an interest in the field who may wish to experiment by tasking me with a target and reviewing the results via a public forum.
    I would be interested. I am a complete non-believer. I conducted enough experiments in that direction many years ago. But I concede that if such a talent exists I may simply not have it. Perhaps you do. (Or perhaps you are a loony.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver
    I offer none of this. I have nothing to sell and make no wild claims about my own abilities. That it is perfectly possible to access nonlocal information about targets distant in space and time, often in exceptional detail, I am in no doubt.
    You don't sound like a loony, but your claims sound incredible. Still, I'm willing to assist if you wish. I'd love you to prove your case, even if it was only me you convinced. What is the next step?


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    Hi John. Thanks for your response lol. I totally agree with the points you make and appreciate that to 99% of those who have read this thread I will undoubtedly come across as some sort of deluded quack sat at home surrounded by cats and stroking a crystal ball. Nothing could be further from the truth however. Sold my ball on ebay a month back. Joking.

    Incidentally should anyone out there be interested in the 'loonys' who believe that remote viewing works I invite them to check out the work of scientists such as Russell Targ, Hal Puthoff, Stephan Schwartz and Charles Tart. Also the multitudinous studies conducted at SRI between 1970 amd 1995. Have a delve.

    I conducted enough experiments in that direction many years ago. But I concede that if such a talent exists I may simply not have it. Perhaps you do.
    The ability to remote view is present within every single human being. It is not a talent that one 'possesses' any more than is one's sense of smell, taste or hearing. The majority of people simply don't take the time or interest in developing this aspect of themselves. We can all do it.

    Anyway, to the quick. Here's what I want you to do.

    1) Go find a photographic image of a person, place, event or thing...can be anything...so long as it makes an interesting target. My job is NOT to describe the photograph to you, but to actually access the target depicted within and provide information from the site itself. The experiment will work best if the target site is of interest or dynamic; I cannot stress this enough. A picture of a lump of cheese or a barn door would therefore NOT make good targets.

    2) Print out this picture and put it in an envelope

    3) Write two random 4 digit numbers (xxxx / xxxx ) on the back of the envelope along with the words 'please describe the focus of the photograph at the time that it was taken'

    4) Post the 2 random 4 digit numbers here on this thread (or PM me)

    I will then email you my impressions of the target. You compare my impressions with the actual target and decide how I've done, whilst sending me a copy of the image as feedback for myself.

    That's it! Shouldn't take too much of your time.

    Looking forward to it,

    Gulliver
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    Right. I'll take a little while to select an appropriate target that matches your requirements. When you say dynamic do you mean that aspects of it will be changing in a significant way on a regular basis?
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    Describe my desk.
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    You don't have a desk.
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    depends on the definition of desk and the definition of ownership.
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    You don't have a conventional desk that is for your exclusive use at your place of work.
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    Don't give up your day job for a career in remote viewing.


    I have a lab bench and a desk.

    (as in a temporary ownership)

    What would the desk look like?
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    Describe my desk.
    Remote Viewing requires that the viewer know NOTHING about the target. Now that I know that the target is a desk I face the following problems:

    1) My conscious mind is already throwing all sorts of 'desk-ness' at me when I sit down to view, and thus the chances of my receiving any accurate impressions are real low...it will all be imagination and guessing based on the fact that I know I'm dealing with a desk

    2) You know that I know that the target is a desk, and thus any claims to have recieived this information non-locally will be rightly received as bullshit.

    Of course, I appreciate that you are actually trying to be funny; just thought I'd use the opportunity to reiterate the fact that Remote Viewing is based on a blind protocol involving the viewer knowing NOTHING about the target.

    Right. I'll take a little while to select an appropriate target that matches your requirements. When you say dynamic do you mean that aspects of it will be changing in a significant way on a regular basis?
    John, it should take no time at all to select a target that matches these requirements, honestly. By dynamic I simply mean that there is 'something there of interest' (dynamic was probably the wrong word) Check out these examples of possible images one could use:

    http://www.defencetalk.com/wp-conten...boeing-787.jpg

    http://assets.loopd.com/RFS/26/0b5ef...94a995d97l.jpg

    http://www.ewpnet.co.uk/kamchatka/nechayev/geyser.jpg

    Seriously...anything is cool. I stipulate about 'dynamics' and 'interest' only because I have had people task me 2D geometric shapes or fields of grass before...boring boring boring. Make it interesting and you make my job as viewer that much easier. If you're gonna send me somewhere make sure there is something interesting there for me to describe. This also makes the results easier to evaluate.

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    So you can't describe what is on my desk when you know you it is a desk?

    Basically that means that any experiment is doomed to fail?
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    So you can't describe what is on my desk when you know you it is a desk?

    Basically that means that any experiment is doomed to fail?
    Um...not sure what you're having trouble with here. Remote Viewing works by silencing the effects of the conscious mind in order that information from an unknown target (chosen by the tasker and NOT known in any way to the viewer) can register in the viewer's mind, to be recorded on paper.

    THE most common thing that prevents Remote Viewing working is if the viewer knows anything about what he/she is viewing, as this generates instant pictures and associations in their mind...they will then record this on the paper and it will pretty much be figments of their imaginations.

    If I tell you, the remote viewer, that your target is a car and ask you to describe it for me, then straight away you will have a picture of a car in your mind, most probably your own, and thus any data pertaining to the ACTUAL car you are required to describe will get buried amidst this.

    If all I give you are some numbers however (to which the instruction 'describe this car' plus photo of said car) then you know NOTHING about the target. Should you then describe a 'black metal vehicle' etc then we can be reasonably sure that you are actually describing the target, because as far as you know the target could have been anything in the world. We check your description against the feedback and hey ho your viewing is a success. If you have described an animal or a large round building...well, you've clearly failed.

    Had you written the instruction 'please describe spuriousmonkey's desk', placed the tasking in an envelope, attached some numbers and sent them to me then it is possible (on a good day) that I would have provided you with a whole load of info and sketches on your desk. It's not a particularly interesting target, btw (unless you have one hell of a funky desk) so the data would probably be somewhat thin.

    As it is, you told me it's a desk, which makes remote viewing it impossible (protocol insists that the viewer knows nothing etc etc see above blah blah). It also makes judging my data impossible, as I knew what the target was before I started viewing.

    I'll give it a go however. Hmmm....let me see...oh yeah, I see the target now.

    It's a desk.

    How did I do?

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    I want you to see what is on my desk.

    I haven't revealed any information on this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver

    It's a desk.

    How did I do?

    Gulliver
    "Desk" Is a VERY large category of objects, if you can see it you should be able to describe it beyond "its a desk"...
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    I printed out an image. I generated two random 4 digit numbers. They are 8341 and 1481. I wrote the numbers down on a piece of paper and put them in a drawer with the printed image. What can you tell me about it?
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    This may not be up to your standards but give it a try. I have a calendar on my wall, describe the essence of the picture that is currently displayed. Amongst the letters and numbers on the back of this picture are the letters ANZAC and AUS, NZI. (This sequence of letters is not on the back of any of the other pictures.)
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    I printed out an image. I generated two random 4 digit numbers. They are 8341 and 1481. I wrote the numbers down on a piece of paper and put them in a drawer with the printed image. What can you tell me about it?
    Ok thanks Harold I will get back to you by the middle of next week with my impressions. Currently in the middle of a fairly boozy weekend so now is not the time to try. Like I said, hold that thought and I will be back in touch around Wed or Thurs.

    No more targets please...I'm running with this one. Harold14370 seems to understand the tasking requirements and I am happy attempt his target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver
    Right. I'll take a little while to select an appropriate target that matches your requirements. When you say dynamic do you mean that aspects of it will be changing in a significant way on a regular basis?
    John, it should take no time at all to select a target that matches these requirements, honestly. By dynamic I simply mean that there is 'something there of interest' (dynamic was probably the wrong word) Check out these examples of possible images one could use:
    Dynamic was very definitely the wrong word. It indicated a requirement of change, presumably so the current state of the location could be checked.

    I hope your target descriptions will be more accurate in their use of language. (Please note my statement was I'll take a little while to select an appropriate target, it was not I shall require to take a little while etc...)
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    Ok John but requiring movement from A to B is not the sole meaning of the word 'dynamic.'

    dy·nam·ic (d-nmk)
    adj. also dy·nam·i·cal (--kl)
    1.
    a. Of or relating to energy or to objects in motion.
    b. Of or relating to the study of dynamics.
    2. Characterized by continuous change, activity, or progress: a dynamic market.
    3. Marked by intensity and vigor; forceful. See Synonyms at active.
    4. Of or relating to variation of intensity, as in musical sound.
    Harold14370 please check your PM...I have completed the session and am ready to email you my results.

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    awww, why not post them publicly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver
    The ability to remote view is present within every single human being. It is not a talent that one 'possesses' any more than is one's sense of smell, taste or hearing. The majority of people simply don't take the time or interest in developing this aspect of themselves. We can all do it.
    Well, maybe like in the same way that we can all paint, or play piano, but some people are a little bit more talented in those areas than others. It sounds like you have to access a certain subconscious portion of your brain.


    Anyway, to the quick. Here's what I want you to do.

    1) Go find a photographic image of a person, place, event or thing...can be anything...so long as it makes an interesting target. My job is NOT to describe the photograph to you, but to actually access the target depicted within and provide information from the site itself. The experiment will work best if the target site is of interest or dynamic; I cannot stress this enough. A picture of a lump of cheese or a barn door would therefore NOT make good targets.

    2) Print out this picture and put it in an envelope

    3) Write two random 4 digit numbers (xxxx / xxxx ) on the back of the envelope along with the words 'please describe the focus of the photograph at the time that it was taken'

    4) Post the 2 random 4 digit numbers here on this thread (or PM me)

    I will then email you my impressions of the target. You compare my impressions with the actual target and decide how I've done, whilst sending me a copy of the image as feedback for myself.

    That's it! Shouldn't take too much of your time.

    Looking forward to it,

    Gulliver
    So, does the picture have to have a lot of detail to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt
    Dynamic was very definitely the wrong word. It indicated a requirement of change, presumably so the current state of the location could be checked.
    I hope your target descriptions will be more accurate in their use of language.
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    Ok John but requiring movement from A to B is not the sole meaning of the word 'dynamic.'
    Here is my concern Gulliver. In judging the quality of the hit from your perspective it seems likely that you will be using vague and inaccurate interpretations of words. Why do I say this? You have demonstrated it above. I have defined dynamic as relating to change, not specifically change of location. Indeed, since we are focused on a single location that particular definition is excluded.
    Yet you so misinterpret my writing that you tell me that the one meaning of dynamic I have implicitly excluded is not the only meaning of dynamic.

    I look forward to hearing the results from you and Harold. I just hope we don't then hear excuses for the miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt
    I look forward to hearing the results from you and Harold. I just hope we don't then hear excuses for the miss.
    The photo was of a street in Rome with a fountain. My daughter says it is the fountain at the bottom of the Spanish Steps, whatever that is. Gulliver described it as follows. The colors blue, white, green, silver, are right, and the water, but the rest of it would have to be called a miss:
    Object and lifeform
    Creaking, wrenching sound
    Blue, white, green, silver
    WHOOMPH!!!
    Sharp, metallic
    Driving on top
    Precision, aerodynamic
    Steering
    Applying pressure to something on the floor with foot
    AOL: (eg mental fluff) Jetski, bridge, corrugated metal
    Buzzing sound
    Lifeform gripping something, poking with arm
    Display, someone is showing off
    Could be trouble…dangerous activity
    ‘riviera’
    Mechanical, metallic
    Rocking, flailing
    ‘open up’
    ‘sonic’
    Big man, gloved hands holding handlebars
    Revving it up
    Taking part in some kind of challenge or bet
    Overall impression is of some kind of powerful and extremely fast
    moving vehicle, most likely on water.
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    But it is a damn fine cold reading of what you might have chosen Harold if you had made the choice rather than letting your daughter make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt
    Dynamic was very definitely the wrong word. It indicated a requirement of change, presumably so the current state of the location could be checked.
    I hope your target descriptions will be more accurate in their use of language.
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    Ok John but requiring movement from A to B is not the sole meaning of the word 'dynamic.'
    Here is my concern Gulliver. In judging the quality of the hit from your perspective it seems likely that you will be using vague and inaccurate interpretations of words. Why do I say this? You have demonstrated it above. I have defined dynamic as relating to change, not specifically change of location. Indeed, since we are focused on a single location that particular definition is excluded.
    Yet you so misinterpret my writing that you tell me that the one meaning of dynamic I have implicitly excluded is not the only meaning of dynamic.

    I look forward to hearing the results from you and Harold. I just hope we don't then hear excuses for the miss.
    Man you just flame flame flame. You make this forum quite boring, you know. Is it even possible for you to just share your opinion or "corrections" without trying to make the other person look like a fool. You not understand other people is not other peoples fault, it's yours.
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    Very disappointing... ;-(

    But then, I don't think anybody who could really do it would publicly admit it. They'd find other ways to make money off of it, and most of those ways are best served by keeping it to oneself. (And not sharing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper-X
    Man you just flame flame flame. You make this forum quite boring, you know. Is it even possible for you to just share your opinion or "corrections" without trying to make the other person look like a fool. You not understand other people is not other peoples fault, it's yours.
    Viper, whether you agree with John's argument it does not constitute flaming. He's pointing out what he sees as a logical flaw in gulliver's approach. You may refute that argument if you see fit, but less of the finger pointing please.
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    Hi guys.

    Thought I'd check back in and clear a few things up. Had a some sad news a few weeks back which has taken me overseas but things have calmed down a bit now.

    With regards 'cold reading' John...as Harold can attest, my session data was TOTALLY off with regards the target. I missed big time. FAILURE. This happens in RV as it isn't an exact science...like any human endeavour things can go wrong, the ball gets fumbled etc etc. I hold my hands up and accept full responsibility.
    Harold's target was a good one, and tasked well. I mucked up. End of.

    Perhaps the one benefit of this that you see how cold reading has NOTHING to do with this. My impressions were of a vehicle moving swiftly over water; had the target been as much then I would be claiming success. It isn't so I'm not.

    But then, I don't think anybody who could really do it would publicly admit it. They'd find other ways to make money off of it, and most of those ways are best served by keeping it to oneself. (And not sharing)
    Absolutely not true. Remote Viewing is never 100% accurate (as I have quite ably demonstrated lol). Making money off it is hard, unless you are one of those con artists claiming that your DVD will teach how to remote view aliens on Mars or the apocalpyse, inw hich case there are 1000s of gullible schmucks out there willing to shell out their cash.

    My purpose here was really and truly to try and demonstrate RV to you guys; it's a little mini-crusade of mine. At present I am doing a lousy job as the proof is in the pudding and I just dropped my pudding all over the floor hehe.

    Harold, thanks for your time and your target. Before I skulk off into the ether can I ask someone else (John, back to you my friend), to set up one more attempt to see if I can try to show you what a good RV session looks like. Do just what Harold did...photo, numbers etc. One more go. (btw what on earth do I have to gain wasting my time pulling cold-reading bullshit on you all? I mean...why on earth would I bother?!?!)

    We have a little crowd now on this thread...let's see if I can't give you all something to think about. If I fail again, well, I will bid you all adieu and skulk off to beat my head against the nearest surface. If I do better this time, well, we'll see what you guys make of it.

    John Galt...over to you. Pick a target. Let me have those numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver
    (btw what on earth do I have to gain wasting my time pulling cold-reading bullshit on you all? I mean...why on earth would I bother?!?!)
    I wasn't suggesting it would have been deliberate, but subconscious. I knew a medium who sincerely believed in what she did, but was actually doing superb cold readings.

    I don't have printer access till Friday. I'll print a target then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulliver

    But then, I don't think anybody who could really do it would publicly admit it. They'd find other ways to make money off of it, and most of those ways are best served by keeping it to oneself. (And not sharing)
    Absolutely not true. Remote Viewing is never 100% accurate (as I have quite ably demonstrated lol). Making money off it is hard, unless you are one of those con artists claiming that your DVD will teach how to remote view aliens on Mars or the apocalpyse, inw hich case there are 1000s of gullible schmucks out there willing to shell out their cash.
    I was thinking more along the lines of playing the stock market. They can't convict you of insider trading if you're using psychic powers to read internal memos, or something like that. They'd first have to prove that psychic powers exist.
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