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    Have you ever heard of Vedic Mathematics? It's an ancient system of math from India that was re-discovered in the early 1900's. From what I understand this is the system of math that is taught throughout India today.

    I just bought the book, Vedic Mathematics, by Sri Bharati Krsna. I'm still only beginning to learn this system of math, but so far it is certainly far more efficient than the mathematics taught in the West. Here is a good tutorial of it. http://www.vedicmaths.org/Introducti...l/Tutorial.asp


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    Thanks. It is amazing how much the ancients were able to accomplish with such simple systems of thought. Nowadays we over complicate everything and in turn think we are smarter because of it.

    I am a follower of eastern ways but have never heard of this. My only problem with it is that you don't learn what is happening mathematically, you just learn how to get the answer, but you don't have to know WHY you get the answer. It doesn't change anything except your understanding of numbers. It is still very useful!


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    Some thoughts on this (and I grew up in India and was taught my maths there).

    1. No it is not used throughout India as a teaching method. In fact it's a private enterprise by a bloke who makes money off selling the system (I was recently in Bombay and privy to all the advertising regarding it).

    2. It isn't, strictly speaking, mathematics in all, but a very small part of it - arithmetic.

    3. As I said to my Indian friends at the time, it cannot be Vedic. A quick trawl (even wiki can help with this), will show you that the Vedas date from about 3000 years before the present (call it roughly 800 - 1500 BCE, with the Rig, or Rg Veda being the oldest). Indian arithmetic is without question a glorious and often under-appreciated aspect of Indian culture because it was the Indian mathematicians who developed the idea of the number 0 to its current form, and hence gave us our modern number system and modern arithmetic. BUT, and this is a big but, the Golden Age of Indian arithmetic (and maths, to be honest) was from about 1300 - 1800 years ago, during what is frequently described as the Classic Era of Sanskrit, and therefore post-dates the Vedas by over 1000 years. The 0 (zero) as a fully functional number and essential part of the number system, did not come into being until about 600 or so CE. If you wish to know more about this history I strongly recommend Georges Ifrah's masterly The Univeral History of Numbers: From one to zero.

    It might sound as though I am rubbishing the entire 'Vedic Mathematics' thing but I'm not. It may well be another way (vide Trachtenberg and other such systems) of making arithmetic easier or more accurate, but I'm not in a position to comment, having long ago fallen into my standard arithmetic habits and being both comfortable and reasonably competent in their use. It's just that I do not like inaccuracies and overstatements, particularly in a field as precise as maths.

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    The only thing the tutorials seemed to cover was crafty ways of doing arithmetic in specific situations. My calculator can do that just fine...
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    It is cool... how much mathematical knowledge the ancients attained. Especially the Babylonians (they knew the quadratic formula!)

    Intellectuals in the far future will look back on our relatively ancient societies and think "Incredible. They knew much for their time". Considering our most complex concepts and advanced problems in number theory and complex analysis will probably be easy or intermediate level math by then.

    P.S. Stop reving such old threads.
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    Vedic mathematics was known as triloquoy but they gave it to the hermaphrodites to look after so there wasn't any generation after to look after it. Rig-veda 72_9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheObserver View Post
    The only thing the tutorials seemed to cover was crafty ways of doing arithmetic in specific situations. My calculator can do that just fine...

    I love Vedic Mathematics and it is much more coherent, elegant, intuitieve, creative then the dumbed
    down system of conventional mathematics.

    So, you haven't researched it then? Right? You can do a lot more, algebra, calculus, sqauring, square root, cubing, and so on and so forth.

    * Just for comparison, how do you calculate 1/19 in the conventional way?

    * And how, in the conventional way, do you get the line between the two points (9,17) and (7,-2)

    * With Vedic math you can find out there is an underlying periodic repeating rhytm within the Fibonacci
    sequens.

    *btw do you know Pi (3,1415926) is wrong?

    *Do you know Vedic Mathematics is used in the field of ICT?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheObserver View Post
    The only thing the tutorials seemed to cover was crafty ways of doing arithmetic in specific situations. My calculator can do that just fine...
    that's the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethelforthchardleofu View Post
    *btw do you know Pi (3,1415926) is wrong?
    No, I do not know this. Can you please point out where, the Wiki link that I have provided, gets it wrong.

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    That's what happens when you read posts by cranks. Maths education is not so bad, we just get a lot of idiots posting crap here, thankfuly most are banned...
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    Hello i am from india , i think this is a bullshit . We were introduced to this load of shit when we were in our 6th grade , its looked like a complex process back in those days .Nobody uses it here unless you are one of those type fat dumb looking nerd with glasses ...lol

    That is not all , i dont even know what vedas means even though i live in india , are they like old stories or something ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixi View Post
    Hello i am from india , i think this is a bullshit . We were introduced to this load of shit when we were in our 6th grade , its looked like a complex process back in those days .Nobody uses it here unless you are one of those type fat dumb looking nerd with glasses ...lol

    That is not all , i dont even know what vedas means even though i live in india , are they like old stories or something ?
    Easy there, cowboy. That is why this (very old) topic is in Pseudoscience.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    To be fair, it wasn't in Pseudo until after that post was made.
    I saw that (because of the lost posts) it was now "current" and Pixi got his/ her post in before I moved the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    To be fair, it wasn't in Pseudo until after that post was made.
    I saw that (because of the lost posts) it was now "current" and Pixi got his/ her post in before I moved the thread.
    Oh, wiw. Oki I looked at the OP and it's from 2009 I just assumed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excidium View Post
    It is cool... how much mathematical knowledge the ancients attained. Especially the Babylonians (they knew the quadratic formula!)

    Intellectuals in the far future will look back on our relatively ancient societies and think "Incredible. They knew much for their time". Considering our most complex concepts and advanced problems in number theory and complex analysis will probably be easy or intermediate level math by then.

    P.S. Stop reving such old threads.
    They would see this time period as the dark era of human history. The era of great lies and deception.
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