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    I don't understand reason they approved a theory, if it has not still been proven scientifically. The scientists have not been able to detect the force that emerges of the sun, of the planets and of the moons. My theory is that the gravity doesn't exist...

    In the following pages Web, it reads the answers to the following question:
    what causes gravity?

    http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/gen99150.htm
    http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/newton...sics/PHY40.HTM


    MY THEORY BASED ON MY SIXTH SENSE

    I CAN SEE WHAT THERE ARE IN OTHER DIMENSIONS



    THEORY ESPINOZA



    FIRST LAW ESPINOZA:

    The planet is a three-dimensional phenomenon that makes us see everything in a direct way. In any place of the planet in that we are, we will always see all right and plane.

    The ocean doesn't fall because it weighs. All that enters in the field of the planet obtains weight. The weight increases while denser it is the space or universe. The space is denser while there is less height.

    The planet it is in its around contaminate of energy that it leaves the planet. Perhaps this energy is who gives weight to what enters in its field.

    SECOND LAW ESPINOZA:

    The solar system is made up of numerous rings created by the planets, moons and sun.

    The Sun moves to its rings and the rings move to the planets.

    Everything begins in the Sun, where they happen diverse nuclear explosions and begins to move.

    Clear the Sun moves first that the planets and for that reason the rings exist, because of them the sequence of movements begins, from the sun until the moons.

    In conclusion: the moon, the sun and the planets have three-dimensional rings that it allows the communication among them and they don't allow to come closer and that they collide among themselves. To move a block first I should play it, the same thing happens in the Solar System, to move a planet first I should play it and it is. that that they make the rings of the Sun.

    THIRD LAW ESPINOZA:

    Two imams are attracted, because there is an element in them that he/she stretches out, (perhaps it is the energy or electricity that it is inside them).

    When bringing near a metal to the imam the elastic element it is attracted by the metal. And as all elastic element he/she wants to return to their original form, it attracts I get to the metal.

    The same thing happens to the atoms. An elastic element attracts to the protons. Perhaps be the energy of the Quarks, the that stretches and the origin of the force strong.


    THE FORCE OF
    ATTRACTION
    NOT EXIST



    In the solar System, the sun doesn't have a motor creating gravitational force.

    In the planets a motor doesn't exist creating forces of attraction.

    In an atom a motor doesn't exist creating force of attraction.



    THE MAGIC
    NOT EXIST



    Who unites to the ocean to the earth; a magic that emerge of the planet or something that surrounds to the planet?

    THE GRAVITY
    NOT EXIST



    This theory doesn't affect Newton equations, since Newton called to the force created by the weight like graveness

    By Victor Elías Espinoza Guedez
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    Questions that have made me

    1. - Says that the planets and the Sun don't have weight; but then says that they liberate energy that is but strong that the weight of the planets. It is not contradictory?

    2. - I don't see clear that of "to move the quickest hand that the speed of the time". No it is the time one of the references of the speed?

    3. - And does reason exist the weight and not the gravity?

    4. - Which movements are they produced by the gravity?

    5. - And reason the movements of the tide change?

    6. - And how do they originate the rings?

    7. - how so the speed and the time anything has to see? to what same speed is it then? illuminate me, please.

    8. - Then the black holes super massive because they maintain the galaxy giving spiral? By means of that forces? Or reason when a star collapses, she is formed a to pulse?... Good I already come, do I go to the moon of a jump since there is not gravity...

    9. - I only have one question; ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU SPEAKING?

    10. - Your answer 9 is called gravity !

    11. - You say "a species of energy that it emerges of the atoms" and that type of energy is it? What the cause? don't ask explanations of things that you don't clarify in your own theories.



    MY ANSWERS


    1. - With regard to the weight of the planets If the planets weighed imagines their weight and the force that it is needed to move them... for that reason they move around the sun, because they don't have weight!

    2. - With regard to the speed of the time of the second theory Espinoza Second Theory Espinoza, I speak of 2 speeds: the speed 1 that of the time and the speed 2 that of the hand.... The speed doesn't have anything to do with the time. If the time exists doesn't have several speeds, only an and that of the hand is a speed non time. For the speed it is needed to use force, that is to say, it is the result of a force.... The time doesn't need force…. for that reason they are 2 different things.

    3. - The things acquire weight because the energy that leaves the planet puts less dense to the universe than it surrounds to the planet. And reason falls toward the earth, because there is less density toward the earth than toward the external space. The things don't fall for attraction but for their weight. When we inflate a globe for children with Helium, this leaves up because the energy that leaves the planet expels him up. To the view the Helium collides with the energy that leaves the planet and other things as the smoke that also ascends instead of lowering... The atoms that conform the atmosphere also have weight, since they are in a polluted field of energy and therefore, this is located in a place called less dense universe. I already explained the reason it becomes less dense the universe that surrounds to the planet, the energy that leaves the planet heats the particles of the universe and they separate creating a less dense universe to create weight.

    4. - None, the graveness doesn't exist. The Solar System moves in the following way: FIRST: the sun moves due to its diverse gigantic nuclear explosions, SECOND: the connected rings move in the sun, THIRD: the planets receive the movements that you/they bring the rings, FOURTH: the planet moves its rings, FIFTH AND LAST: the moons move receiving the movements that you/they bring the rings of the planets. As we can see the origin of the movements it is the SUN and don't unite imaginary force that you/they call it gravity. The movement in the Solar System is a chain that begins in the Sun and it finishes in the moons. In the following ones graphic, we will see of green color the different rings created by the Sun and the planet Earth, these rings should be since in another dimension we cannot see them, but until they pass thousands of years, when the man can see the other dimensions that it hides the universe, by means of the use of the sixth sense that today is developing in the human beings of the planet earth. Meanwhile I was ahead them clear: let us see the graphs: The movement in the planet earth, I already explained to them in the question (3). To see the graphs should enter in the following page web: Theory-espinoza (page 2 of My Answers).

    5. - If is due to something that comes of out, it should be a ring of the moon that that changes the tides.

    6. - When we see in a magnifying glass, we enlarge the size of the things (any thing); the same thing happens to the planets, their size is enlarged several times by the different dimensions. What I mean is that the rings are the planets, sun and moon enlarged. This allows us to suggest that the movement of the sun is transmitted by its different sizes in other dimensions, that is to say, different rings. When we see a magnifying glass, we also see a ring that enlarges what is behind the magnifying glass. The same thing happens to the planets, when we see a planet we don't see their rings, because we don't still have a magnifying glass to see rings in other dimensions, the dimensions repeat they enlarge the size of the planets and create the rings. This you can use to open a window and to enter to other dimensions, because if my theory is correct, the walls of the dimensions, are made up of a similar element to the glass of a magnifying glass. That is to say, if a magnifying glass enlarges and the dimensional walls also, then reason the glass of the magnifying glass is transparent the same as the dimensional wall. Has to have a resemblance among magnifying glass, long views and telescopes with the no accountable of the dimensions. This says it to help to the fabricate of a dimensional door.

    7. - Speed is same to the distance created by a force, (among (/)), the time created by a force. How I already said in my theory the speed it is the result of a force.... To read answer (2). I don't speak of the numeric time (age, distances/time, hour, it dates, etc.). I speak of the absolute time numeric (not numerable) that exists in the universe. Albert Einstein called it absolute time and you speak of the numerable relative time. That is to say that you speak of the time that takes to an object or a planet of moving from a place to another. Not I don't speak of that time in my second theory Espinoza http://www.secondte-theory-espinoza.es.tl where I say that when moving the quickest hand that the speed of the time (absolute), we draw in different times (absolute), that is to say that I relate at the absolute time with the other existent dimensions and this says it to help to fabricate a portal to other dimensions. Thank you to ask.

    8. - The first movement explains to it the Second Law Espinoza: The galaxies the same as the Solar System, this composed by numerous rings, through which it transmits the movement of the central star of a galaxy. The second movement explains to it the Third Law Espinoza: The star collapses because in her interior there is electric load. This loads electric wants to leave and the star destroys. Then originates a motor, where the star is the rotor and the star's field is the bobbin. And you cannot jump to the moon, because you are in a field that create weight...

    9. - I try to say that a movement without tact is magic.

    10. - Then the gravity is a magic and the magic doesn't exist. The Primera Law Espinoza, explains this movement that you call gravity and later I enlarge it in the answer (3) of the questions that have made me…

    11. - The energy comes from the Sun and of there they feed the planets…


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    Here are two definitions for you to consider:

    Theory: An extremely well-substantiated explanation of some aspects of the natural world that incorporates facts, laws, predictions, and tested hypotheses

    Hypothesis: a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"


    Unless you have scientific results from repeatable scientific tests which have proved this and, having these results, published and gained general acceptance of this, you have proposed a Hypothesis only.


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    The planet is a three-dimensional phenomenon that makes us see everything in a direct way. In any place of the planet in that we are, we will always see all right and plane.

    The ocean doesn't fall because it weighs. All that enters in the field of the planet obtains weight. The weight increases while denser it is the space or universe. The space is denser while there is less height.

    The planet it is in its around contaminate of energy that it leaves the planet. Perhaps this energy is who gives weight to what enters in its field.
    Yet gravity exists between all objects with mass. An object in space, away from any planet, still has gravity. Further, what about stars? They aren't planets, yet they have gravity.

    Further, weight is equal to mass multiplied by the acceleration due to gravity, and gravity is a universal force, felt by all objects, even light.

    And also, how is this a law?

    SECOND LAW ESPINOZA:

    The planets and the sun in the universe don't have weight. But yes they liberate energy around in its.

    This energy is stronger than the weight of the planets.

    And the energy moves to the planets around the sun.

    This energy that leaves the planets maintains them separated from the sun and of themselves.

    In conclusion: The energy that leaves the sun moves to the planets, and they don't come closer in the sun, because of each one of them (Planets and sun) it leaves an energy that he/she doesn't leave that collide.

    The planets don't have weight and for that reason they don't fall toward the sun (and I say “they fall” because they are in the field of the sun). Equal passes with the moon, doesn't have weight and for that reason doesn't fall toward the earth. The same thing happens to the artificial satellites, they don't have weight.
    I have already told you that the Earth is moving towards the sun, at the steady rate of 1 cm or smaller per year. This has actually been measured. Binary stars have had their orbits radically altered due to mutual gravitational attraction, and they are rapidly falling into each other. Both effects have been measured by experiments.

    This contradicts your "law".

    Two imams are attracted, because there is an element in them that he/she stretches out, (perhaps it is the energy or electricity that it is inside them).

    When bringing near a metal to the imam the elastic element it is attracted by the metal. And as all elastic element he/she wants to return to their original form, it attracts I get to the metal.

    The same thing happens to the atoms. An elastic element attracts to the protons. Perhaps be the energy of the Quarks, the that stretches and the origin of the force strong.
    What on Earth is an imam? I've heard of electrons, but I've never heard of imams.

    Further, what you are talking about is the attractive feature of electromagnetism. How does your "theory" explain repulsion?

    Do you even know what a quark is?

    THE FORCE OF
    ATTRACTION
    NOT EXIST
    I find that hard to believe.

    In the solar System, the sun doesn't have a motor creating gravitational force.

    In the planets a motor doesn't exist creating forces of attraction.

    In an atom a motor doesn't exist creating force of attraction.
    For your information, general relativity superseded Newtonian gravity a century ago. Mass, in this theory distorts space-time, causing objects to follow a curved path. Of course motors don't exist and we know why. You don't need to create a whole new theory to explain what we already know.

    This theory doesn't affect Newton equations, since Newton called to the force created by the weight like graveness
    Oh, it does affect Newton's laws. If planets don't have weight, then they don't have mass, which is nonesensial.

    With regard to the weight of the planets If the planets weighed imagines their weight and the force that it is needed to move them... for that reason they move around the sun, because they don't have weight!
    ... You make no sense whatsoever.

    With regard to the speed of the time of the second theory Espinoza Second Theory Espinoza, I speak of 2 speeds: the speed 1 that of the time and the speed 2 that of the hand.... The speed doesn't have anything to do with the time. If the time exists doesn't have several speeds, only an and that of the hand is a speed non time. For the speed it is needed to use force, that is to say, it is the result of a force.... The time doesn't need force…. for that reason they are 2 different things.
    What the heck are you even talking about? When did time need a force? If speed has nothing to do time, how do you measure it? Of course time and speed are two different things; we already know this.

    4. - None, the graveness doesn't exist. The Solar System moves in the following way: FIRST: the sun moves due to its diverse gigantic nuclear explosions, SECOND: the connected rings move in the sun, THIRD: the planets receive the movements that you/they bring the rings, FOURTH: the planet moves its rings, FIFTH AND LAST: the moons move receiving the movements that you/they bring the rings of the planets. As we can see the origin of the movements it is the SUN and don't unite imaginary force that you/they call it gravity. The movement in the Solar System is a chain that begins in the Sun and it finishes in the moons. In the following ones graphic, we will see of green color the different rings created by the Sun and the planet Earth, these rings should be since in another dimension we cannot see them, but until they pass thousands of years, when the man can see the other dimensions that it hides the universe, by means of the use of the sixth sense that today is developing in the human beings of the planet earth. Meanwhile I was ahead them clear: let us see the graphs: The movement in the planet earth, I already explained to them in the question (3). To see the graphs should enter in the following page web: Theory-espinoza (page 2 of My Answers).

    5. - If is due to something that comes of out, it should be a ring of the moon that that changes the tides.

    6. - When we see in a magnifying glass, we enlarge the size of the things (any thing); the same thing happens to the planets, their size is enlarged several times by the different dimensions. What I mean is that the rings are the planets, sun and moon enlarged. This allows us to suggest that the movement of the sun is transmitted by its different sizes in other dimensions, that is to say, different rings. When we see a magnifying glass, we also see a ring that enlarges what is behind the magnifying glass. The same thing happens to the planets, when we see a planet we don't see their rings, because we don't still have a magnifying glass to see rings in other dimensions, the dimensions repeat they enlarge the size of the planets and create the rings. This you can use to open a window and to enter to other dimensions, because if my theory is correct, the walls of the dimensions, are made up of a similar element to the glass of a magnifying glass. That is to say, if a magnifying glass enlarges and the dimensional walls also, then reason the glass of the magnifying glass is transparent the same as the dimensional wall. Has to have a resemblance among magnifying glass, long views and telescopes with the no accountable of the dimensions. This says it to help to the fabricate of a dimensional door.
    I ask any sane person to reason this out, because I for one have no idea what on Earth you mean to say. Please correct your English and at least read something of physics as it is today. One book would be Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time. I recommend it only because you desperately need to understand the laws of physics.
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    Liongold you are now officially cool

    Paleo, you're still cool as always


    Possibly the best part about this all is that it makes a few assumptions (which aren't true) and builds everything upon those flawed assumptions. There aren't even any observations thrown in here as far as I can tell...
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    Liongold you are now officially cool
    Gee, thanks! I've never been so honoured.

    Possibly the best part about this all is that it makes a few assumptions (which aren't true) and builds everything upon those flawed assumptions. There aren't even any observations thrown in here as far as I can tell...
    Unfortunate. It could have one day become a grand unified theory if we hadn't stepped in to nip it in the bud... :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liongold
    Liongold you are now officially cool
    Gee, thanks! I've never been so honoured.
    Cold is probably a better description
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    he's 14 dude. If you are not in an intellectual position to best him and have to call his sound logics cold then perhaps you need to rethink your position on everything.
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    Cold is probably a better description
    I'm very sorry to hear you say that, Absum. Have I offended you in some way? The reason I answered Victor's theory like that is because he has posted it before, and I was not in a very peaceful moodat the time. Please accept my humble apologies.

    If you are not in an intellectual position to best him and have to call his sound logics cold then perhaps you need to rethink your position on everything.
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    Don't apologize to him, you've done nothing wrong. They post it on an online science forum, they can expect that someone will come in and question it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormoopid
    Don't apologize to him, you've done nothing wrong. They post it on an online science forum, they can expect that someone will come in and question it.
    Totally agree with mormoopid, you have nothing to apologize for. Absum! just doesn't have any manners from what Ive seen.
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    Don't apologize to him, you've done nothing wrong. They post it on an online science forum, they can expect that someone will come in and question it.
    Totally agree with mormoopid, you have nothing to apologize for. Absum! just doesn't have any manners from what Ive seen.
    Thanks, Paleoichneum (I finally learned to spell your name, lol) and mormoopid. :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liongold
    Don't apologize to him, you've done nothing wrong. They post it on an online science forum, they can expect that someone will come in and question it.
    Totally agree with mormoopid, you have nothing to apologize for. Absum! just doesn't have any manners from what Ive seen.
    Thanks, Paleoichneum (I finally learned to spell your name, lol) and mormoopid. :-D
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    Lol Paleo works for my friends
    Hey, thanks, Paleo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormoopid
    he's 14 dude.
    Yes

    That's obvious
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    Yes

    That's obvious
    I am at a loss, Absum, to understand the reason for your hostility. I'm puzzled as to what I've done to offend you in such a way. Could you tell me what I have done?

    Or, given your feelings about intellect, how about I dumb down my supposed "coldness", eh? Then would you tell me my mistake?
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