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  1. #1 The Big Bang Paradox 
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    How can an event take place when there is no time for it to happen. This seems like an obvious paradox to me. Does this sound right: "there was nothing, not even time, and suddenly, BANG, time, and everything else pops into existence"


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    Jesuits are peerless manipulators of logic; the father of Big Bang was schooled by them. The Pope rewarded this church agent with the title of Monsignor. I know we aren't supposed to discriminate ... but really! This strains coincidence and I believe if physicists and mathematicians had less pride we might suspect we've been owned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GHOST
    How can an event take place when there is no time for it to happen. This seems like an obvious paradox to me. Does this sound right: "there was nothing, not even time, and suddenly, BANG, time, and everything else pops into existence"
    We would first have to assume whatever existed before or caused the BB followed our current physical laws. That probably isn't the case.
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    yeah I thought of that question


    the only thing I can think of is that the Big Bang happened outside conventional time, time is relative and more importantly, created by us to measure the age of things, things age that is how we can moniter the progress of time

    presumably the big bang happened in an ageless period where things do not change over a length of 'time' if we follow this then it can be understood how the notion of an everliving God can exist, if he existed prior to the big bang then technically he would have existed and never existed at all



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    I always suspect that a lot of support for the BBT comes from people trying to justify a divine being.




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    How can an event take place when there is no time for it to happen. This seems like an obvious paradox to me. Does this sound right: "there was nothing, not even time, and suddenly, BANG, time, and everything else pops into existence"
    We would first have to assume whatever existed before or caused the BB followed our current physical laws. That probably isn't the case.
    Well, failing to follow our laws doesn't give it a license to forgo following laws of some kind.

    The idea that the original event is so alien to our laws that no constraints can ever be placed on what it could or could not do is a creative license to define something however the imagination prefers it, isolating it from any possibility of ever being tested.

    You're arguing that a nonsense answer is preferable to one that could be arrived at by the application of logic to observed phenomena.

    If we start with a Hubble Redshift that didn't make sense, and then rationalize it by postulating the existence of a much, much, more extra-ordinary event that.... also doesn't make sense.... what have we really accomplished?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHOST
    "there was nothing, not even time, and suddenly, BANG, time, and everything else pops into existence"
    if "time" and the mesurment of "time" a human construct, then its possible.

    but what i dont get is could "everything" come from nothing*




    *nothing is used here to comumicate somthing very small, or nonexistant, after all "nothing" is a human construct as well
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    How can an event take place when there is no time for it to happen. This seems like an obvious paradox to me. Does this sound right: "there was nothing, not even time, and suddenly, BANG, time, and everything else pops into existence"
    It's not a paradox when you understand that there was a singularity before the Big Bang. Indeed, most calculations support this, making it impossible for us to know what happened then.

    The Big Bang does not claim to have created time itself, only that all the matter of the universe originated from it. It is more than likely that time existed before the Big Bang, but simply impossible to find in the singularity.
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