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It is something that I just thought about on a fine evening, when tired out and nothing to do. I had to study atomic physics for a test in my school. So when I just looked at my textbook I just began to wonder.. Well HOW DID IT ALL BEGAN?.. Just a question everybody in this world might think . So I started with nothingness. Well can there be a state of complete nothingness. Never. The reason is that when nothingness is there , there should be SOMETHING else so that nothingness can be there with respect to that SOMETHING. It was quite confusing for me too but just consider this case. You have nothing in your hand. You know you are having nothing only because you know you CAN have something in your hand. Hope you got some idea of my thought. So we know that complete nothingness is not possible. But then the universe and everything that we know, cannot remain as something all the time. It is because things are getting created in this universe. Living beings are created. Planets are getting created. Some stars get converted into Black holes. The universe is expanding. This is enough proof to ward off the steady state theory. ie. The theory which says universe is always constant. This makes it sure that Universe was created from nothingness. Since something cant be like that for ever. So just try to compare this statement with what I said before.. that complete nothingness is not possible. It contradicts. Really.

So what I thought next is like this :
Since complete nothingness is not possible and universe is said to come from such a state, we may say that The NOTHINGNESS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS JUST
TWO THINGS THAT CREATE NOTHINGNESS WHEN THEY COMBINE. BUT THEY CANNOT ACTUALLY COMBINE AS COMPLETE NOTHINGNESS ( or I may call it a complete ZERO ) IS NOT POSSIBLE.

ie. the actual nothingness we think which was there would have been ACTUALLY SPLIT INTO 2 - CALLED MATTER AND ANTI MATTER.

SINCE THE CREATION OF SUCH SPECIFIC STATES ARE NOT POSSIBLE FROM NOTHINGNESS, THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED AS BEING INDIVIDUALLY , NOTHING.
ie. individually matter is not there. it is there only when antimatter is present. MATTER IS SOMETHING SPECIFIC ONLY WHEN ANTIMATTER IS PRESENT AND VICE VERSA.

THEREFORE IN A NUTSHELL , MATTER AND ANTIMATTER COMBINE TO FORM NOTHINGNESS, WHICH DOES NOT HAPPEN AND THEY ARE ALSO INDIVIDUALLY NOTHING ( THEY CANT EXIST INDIVIDUALLY) , BUT THEN THEY ARE SOMETHING WITH RESPECT TO EACH OTHER , WHEN THEY COEXIST.

We may say that it has always been like this, IE ; 2 states which combine to form nothingness and are only present because absolute nothingness is not possible. So this is the way in which we can say, it has not become something from nothing, It is just the formation of 2 completely opposite states present which when combined, is actually nothingness.

Using This idea. Let us consider the matter state. As i say, matter cannot combine with antimatter. This is why, even the production of antimatter may not be possible. We cannot see it, feel it but it is there. It is there everywhere. If you are one human. There is an anti human for you, who may feel that you are his anti human( Just an imaginary situation). Because there is not distinction to tell which is matter and antimatter. They are just, coexisting things.

We may create an antiparticle. But remember that particle is just a form of matter.
THE SPLIT THEORY CAN BE EXTENDED> matter could have split itself as electrons and protons, which combine to form neutrons, which is yet another form of matter.
a positron can be thought of a positively charged electron, but it doesn't combine with electron to form anti matter. Because the combination has some mass and hence , it is not antimatter. Antimatter has no mass. IT has ANTI MASS.
The laws of conservation of mass, energy , charge etc can be described only in terms of matter. Between matter and antimatter there are no such laws. This is because matter ( as a state that I said above) exists as what it is. It does not change. It can only change by reacting with anti matter ,which of course does not occur.

Therefore,the presence of non uniformity because nothing is completely uniform ( as you can say , no handwriting can be said, THE BEST ) is what created the entire universe and still keeps creating more of it , by just keeping on splitting into things which on combination, give the uniformity. And for every new matter being created, the corresponding anti matter is getting created. Similarly, there should be ANTI LIGHT AND EVEN AN ANTI UNIVERSE!!!

MATTER CANT EXIST AS MATTER, JUST AS I SAID ABOUT NOTHINGNESS. IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN TWO OR EVEN MORE OPPOSITE STATES OF EXISTENCE, SUCH THAT ALL OF THEM COMBINE TO FORM MATTER.

ANTIMATTER SHOULD ALSO HAVE SUCH SPLITTINGS

IE> MATTER SHOULD NOT FORM NEW PRODUCTS ( AS MATTER ITSELF EXISTS
DUE TO NOTHINGNESS AND SOMETHING SHOULD BE CREATED FROM NOTHING) SO THE DIFFERENT FORMS OF MATTER SHOULD CO EXIST SO THAT IT COMBINES TO FORM MATTER. THE CHAOS THEORY, ACCORDING TO WHICH EVERYTHING NEW THAT HAPPENS CREATES A CHANGE TO THE ORIGINAL STATE OF UNIVERSE , COULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT I SAID.
ANY CHANGE ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE MAKES THE UNIVERSE ADJUST TO IT BY CHANGING ITSELF SO THAT THE COMBINATION INTO MATTER IS NOT LOST. THE ENERGY AND MASS CONSERVATION ALSO CONFORM THAT WHATEVER NEW CHANGE TAKES PLACE , THE TRUTH THAT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE FORMS MATTER IS NOT LOST.
IE> if a new mountain gets formed in the himalayas, or a new river gets formed, doesnt change the overall uniformity.The whole universe combines at all times into only one thing, matter.

So That is why universe is there. It is always keeping on splitting., because
complete uniformity is impossible. THE UNIVERSE IS ALWAYS IN DISORDER. Opposite disordering creates an order( which never gets created, as nothing has an absolute order). And this is what is always happening in the matter universe and the anti matter universe.

This is also analogous to the theory of relativity which says everything happens with respect to something else which does not happen, and only if that something else is there, can we say that the event happens.

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Originally Posted by Sundar

It is something that I just thought about on a fine evening, when tired out and nothing to do. I had to study atomic physics for a test in my school. So when I just looked at my textbook I just began to wonder.. Well HOW DID IT ALL BEGAN?.. Just a question everybody in this world might think . So I started with nothingness. Well can there be a state of complete nothingness. Never. The reason is that when nothingness is there , there should be SOMETHING else so that nothingness can be there with respect to that SOMETHING. It was quite confusing for me too but just consider this case. You have nothing in your hand. You know you are having nothing only because you know you CAN have something in your hand. Hope you got some idea of my thought. So we know that complete nothingness is not possible. But then the universe and everything that we know, cannot remain as something all the time. It is because things are getting created in this universe. Living beings are created. Planets are getting created. Some stars get converted into Black holes. The universe is expanding. This is enough proof to ward off the steady state theory. ie. The theory which says universe is always constant. This makes it sure that Universe was created from nothingness. Since something cant be like that for ever. So just try to compare this statement with what I said before.. that complete nothingness is not possible. It contradicts. Really.

So what I thought next is like this :
Since complete nothingness is not possible and universe is said to come from such a state, we may say that The NOTHINGNESS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS JUST
TWO THINGS THAT CREATE NOTHINGNESS WHEN THEY COMBINE. BUT THEY CANNOT ACTUALLY COMBINE AS COMPLETE NOTHINGNESS ( or I may call it a complete ZERO ) IS NOT POSSIBLE.

ie. the actual nothingness we think which was there would have been ACTUALLY SPLIT INTO 2 - CALLED MATTER AND ANTI MATTER.

SINCE THE CREATION OF SUCH SPECIFIC STATES ARE NOT POSSIBLE FROM NOTHINGNESS, THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED AS BEING INDIVIDUALLY , NOTHING.
ie. individually matter is not there. it is there only when antimatter is present. MATTER IS SOMETHING SPECIFIC ONLY WHEN ANTIMATTER IS PRESENT AND VICE VERSA.

THEREFORE IN A NUTSHELL , MATTER AND ANTIMATTER COMBINE TO FORM NOTHINGNESS, WHICH DOES NOT HAPPEN AND THEY ARE ALSO INDIVIDUALLY NOTHING ( THEY CANT EXIST INDIVIDUALLY) , BUT THEN THEY ARE SOMETHING WITH RESPECT TO EACH OTHER , WHEN THEY COEXIST.

We may say that it has always been like this, IE ; 2 states which combine to form nothingness and are only present because absolute nothingness is not possible. So this is the way in which we can say, it has not become something from nothing, It is just the formation of 2 completely opposite states present which when combined, is actually nothingness.

Using This idea. Let us consider the matter state. As i say, matter cannot combine with antimatter. This is why, even the production of antimatter may not be possible. We cannot see it, feel it but it is there. It is there everywhere. If you are one human. There is an anti human for you, who may feel that you are his anti human( Just an imaginary situation). Because there is not distinction to tell which is matter and antimatter. They are just, coexisting things.

We may create an antiparticle. But remember that particle is just a form of matter.
THE SPLIT THEORY CAN BE EXTENDED> matter could have split itself as electrons and protons, which combine to form neutrons, which is yet another form of matter.
a positron can be thought of a positively charged electron, but it doesn't combine with electron to form anti matter. Because the combination has some mass and hence , it is not antimatter. Antimatter has no mass. IT has ANTI MASS.
The laws of conservation of mass, energy , charge etc can be described only in terms of matter. Between matter and antimatter there are no such laws. This is because matter ( as a state that I said above) exists as what it is. It does not change. It can only change by reacting with anti matter ,which of course does not occur.

Therefore,the presence of non uniformity because nothing is completely uniform ( as you can say , no handwriting can be said, THE BEST ) is what created the entire universe and still keeps creating more of it , by just keeping on splitting into things which on combination, give the uniformity. And for every new matter being created, the corresponding anti matter is getting created. Similarly, there should be ANTI LIGHT AND EVEN AN ANTI UNIVERSE!!!

MATTER CANT EXIST AS MATTER, JUST AS I SAID ABOUT NOTHINGNESS. IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN TWO OR EVEN MORE OPPOSITE STATES OF EXISTENCE, SUCH THAT ALL OF THEM COMBINE TO FORM MATTER.

ANTIMATTER SHOULD ALSO HAVE SUCH SPLITTINGS

IE> MATTER SHOULD NOT FORM NEW PRODUCTS ( AS MATTER ITSELF EXISTS
DUE TO NOTHINGNESS AND SOMETHING SHOULD BE CREATED FROM NOTHING) SO THE DIFFERENT FORMS OF MATTER SHOULD CO EXIST SO THAT IT COMBINES TO FORM MATTER. THE CHAOS THEORY, ACCORDING TO WHICH EVERYTHING NEW THAT HAPPENS CREATES A CHANGE TO THE ORIGINAL STATE OF UNIVERSE , COULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT I SAID.
ANY CHANGE ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE MAKES THE UNIVERSE ADJUST TO IT BY CHANGING ITSELF SO THAT THE COMBINATION INTO MATTER IS NOT LOST. THE ENERGY AND MASS CONSERVATION ALSO CONFORM THAT WHATEVER NEW CHANGE TAKES PLACE , THE TRUTH THAT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE FORMS MATTER IS NOT LOST.
IE> if a new mountain gets formed in the himalayas, or a new river gets formed, doesnt change the overall uniformity.The whole universe combines at all times into only one thing, matter.

So That is why universe is there. It is always keeping on splitting., because
complete uniformity is impossible. THE UNIVERSE IS ALWAYS IN DISORDER. Opposite disordering creates an order( which never gets created, as nothing has an absolute order). And this is what is always happening in the matter universe and the anti matter universe.

This is also analogous to the theory of relativity which says everything happens with respect to something else which does not happen, and only if that something else is there, can we say that the event happens.

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This is nonsense and the post belongs in Pseudoscience.

It says in the Book of Mormon that opposition is necessary in all things.

There cannot be evil except as compared to good.

In practical terms, a ladder cannot stand up unless you lean it against a wall. The exception is the "stepladder" which carries its own "anti-ladder" on its back.

My late singing-cowboy friend, Hulen Rogers, said (holding both cupped hands out in front of him) "Hope in one hand and spit in the other and see which fills up first."

I just got thrown out of the Science Forum for speaking against the Sacred and Holy Big Bang Theory. This is an example of your philosophy statement here.

See, either the universe was always there, or it was not always there. Either I write that the movements apart of the galaxies prove the universe started 13.7 years ago on 23 October at 9:27 AM -- or I am not allowed to write there at all.

Hmmmmmmm. I see you are out here in the alley with me. They didn't like your heterodoxy, either, huh.

You revived a 5 year old thread to quote the book of Moron (spelling intentional) and complain about being kicked out when you haven't (yet)

It's not "heterodoxy" we don't like, it's unsupported bullshit. We hate that.

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