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    Hi,
    There are several types of government..
    Which one do you agree?
    Tell us with the source!

    1. Kingdom-Religious
    2. Kingdom-nonReligious
    3. Republic-Religious
    4. Republic-nonReligious


    Shi'a-Islam says number2
    Why!?
    Source:
    Qur'an: "AnNaso Aktharihum La Ya'qilun/Ya'limun"
    The people majority non thinkers/non knowledge

    It was the source for denying any Voting system such as Republic.

    Shi'a-Hadith:
    "Any flag before rising of As-Sufiyani are Taghut who are worshipped but Allah Azza wa Jall"

    It was the source for deniying any religious government before:

    Hadith:
    At the Akhir uz Zaman[End the Time] there will be a series of wars in the Sham[Syria, Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Turkey...] and they are such as the fire under slag that any of them that you turn off, then another place another war will be turned on while 4 important flags rise at once at same year, same month, same day:
    1. The second coming of Abbasid caliphate is already existed
    2. The second coming of Umayyid caliphat will rise from Sham
    3. The Eastern black flags of the saint Al-Khurasani will rise from Khurasan[Samarqand, Taluqan, Multan, Xinjyang, Shilla..]
    4. The Southern flag of the saint Al-Yemeni rise from Yemen.

    And the Abbassid caliphate is evil government
    And the Sufyani is the same worst evil flag that makes the Armageddon war that everywhere is predicted that converts the evil black flags[maybe ISIS] to the red flags of Umayyid.

    These were our sources to select the number 2 for government.
    Well,
    If you think we are wrong way then tell us with your own opposite sources.
    Thanks

    Well,
    Someone ask what if there was a mighty for deter the evol events which are predicted/foretold.
    Shi'a-Doctrines says Yea of course.
    https://youtu.be/7XT6sbkIizY
    We can change predictions and at least can change qualities of them. By following/abandoning a series of political deeds/view points


    Last edited by Yusef; August 12th, 2021 at 01:50 PM. Reason: Adding capability of changing the events by changing political behaviors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    Hi,
    There are several types of government..
    Which one do you agree?
    Tell us with the source!

    1. Kingdom-Religious
    2. Kingdom-nonReligious
    3. Republic-Religious
    4. Republic-nonReligious

    There are many more dorms of government than the mere four that you've listed (see here for example).
    Shi'a-Islam says number2
    Okay, you've listed a "source". Why do you think this is a valid source?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    Hi,
    There are several types of government..
    Which one do you agree?
    Tell us with the source!

    1. Kingdom-Religious
    2. Kingdom-nonReligious
    3. Republic-Religious
    4. Republic-nonReligious
    There are many more dorms of government than the mere four that you've listed (see here for example).
    I think all the dorms are sub branchs of these 4! Is not!??


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    Shi'a-Islam says number2
    Okay, you've listed a "source". Why do you think this is a valid source?
    according to we who work with the Programming language or Digital systems:
    The DEFAULT is the first source we have heard.
    Then IF one brought any other source versus the previous source, THEN we research about both and pick/take one which the better.

    Well,
    Bring for us IF you have any source against that THEN we will think about validation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    I think all the dorms are sub branchs of these 4! Is not!??
    No.
    Bring for us IF you have any source against that THEN we will think about validation.
    Wrong way to go about things.
    The source must be (shown to be) valid otherwise it can simply be ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    I think all the dorms are sub branchs of these 4! Is not!??
    No.
    Bring for us IF you have any source against that THEN we will think about validation.
    Wrong way to go about things.
    The source must be (shown to be) valid otherwise it can simply be ignored.
    According to the Algorithm of Logic, it will be endless debating if you say "Wrong way to go about things", and i say "True way to go about things"

    Therefore look at the thread: Method of Debating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    According to the Algorithm of Logic
    Made up term.
    it will be endless debating if you say "Wrong way to go about things", and i say "True way to go about things"
    Quite.
    Therefore look at the thread: Method of Debating
    That's deeply flawed.
    Sources - to be taken seriously - must be shown to be valid.
    Otherwise it's simply opinion.
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    It's a sign of the full-fool that delete some posts which are against his own foolishness.
    It seems i should go out from this forum and register another forum and will make aware all of members of all of forums that thescienceforum had such behaviour.
    And i won't post any scientific post here anymore while you delete my other posts
    I have any source for my sayings,
    Also either have any source for deny your sayings,
    Or agree with your sources,
    Or pause about your sources while find an other opposing source versus that,
    Or will be shutting up.
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    It is a sign of a bigger fool (or at least a self important child) to join a community, post nonsense and expect to be taken seriously then throw a tantrum when people say he is spouting rubbish!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    It is a sign of a bigger fool (or at least a self important child) to join a community, post nonsense and expect to be taken seriously then throw a tantrum when people say he is spouting rubbish!
    See Mr PhaDiemon,
    Im several important forums the owners invited me to join among their admins but i rejected.
    And this weak forum has moved my important posts to the Trash can!!!
    And the worse it is that the Trash can is NOT visible to the guests!!
    I will report this behaviour to other scientific forums i'm joined and make these admins shameful that other admins laugh at them and insult them and even Hack them!
    I have any source for my sayings,
    Also either have any source for deny your sayings,
    Or agree with your sources,
    Or pause about your sources while find an other opposing source versus that,
    Or will be shutting up.
    https://youtu.be/1-6Z-HWUCTU
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    Also the name 'PaDiamon' was a name of soldiers of the Pharaoh of the time of prophet Yusef[a.s.]
    How your name is the same!??
    I have any source for my sayings,
    Also either have any source for deny your sayings,
    Or agree with your sources,
    Or pause about your sources while find an other opposing source versus that,
    Or will be shutting up.
    https://youtu.be/1-6Z-HWUCTU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    It is a sign of a bigger fool (or at least a self important child) to join a community, post nonsense and expect to be taken seriously then throw a tantrum when people say he is spouting rubbish!
    See Mr PhaDiemon,
    Im several important forums the owners invited me to join among their admins but i rejected.
    And this weak forum has moved my important posts to the Trash can!!!
    And the worse it is that the Trash can is NOT visible to the guests!!
    I will report this behaviour to other scientific forums i'm joined and make these admins shameful that other admins laugh at them and insult them and even Hack them!
    Go on then.

    I'm sure they will take your reports with all the seriousness they deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    Im several important forums the owners invited me to join among their admins but i rejected.
    Liar.
    And this weak forum has moved my important posts to the Trash can!!!
    If you regard your post as important then I fear for your rationality.
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    PhaDiemon isn't my name. So we can add inability to read to your accomplishments...

    As for the rest of your post I think "self important child" still fits but I'll add clueless moron with delusions of competence to the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusef View Post
    See Mr PhaDiemon,
    Im several important forums the owners invited me to join among their admins but i rejected.
    And this weak forum has moved my important posts to the Trash can!!!
    And the worse it is that the Trash can is NOT visible to the guests!!
    I will report this behaviour to other scientific forums i'm joined and make these admins shameful that other admins laugh at them and insult them and even Hack them!

    This has big "I'm not a laughingstock, you're the laughingstock" energy with a hint of "I'm gonna tell my parents on you vibes" which is frankly hilarious.
    "For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled." Hunter S Thompson

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