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    Documentaries: Untold History of the US, Born in Gaza, The War Show and Last Men In Aleppo.


    "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.


    Gaza 2014. 507 children killed and 3,598 wounded. 80% of Gaza's population depends on humanitarian aid. More than 400,000 children need psychological support in Gaza.


    Once again WH supports a dictator who kills his own people: Bashar al-Assad (Syria) against the Islamic State. WH still kills innocent civilians (Vietnam, Gaza and Syria). Israel did not learn anything from World War II. The WH dirty her hands with innocent blood. Examples: Vietnam, Gaza and Syria.


    The International Criminal Court never judged the crimes of the United States and Israel. The International Criminal Court is useless. Gaza is a concentration camp. The opinions of American Press about Israel and Palestinians are incomplete. The American Press is bootlicker of WH.


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    What is it that you are actually wanting to discuss ?
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    "The International Criminal Court never judged the crimes of the United States"
    - sadly, no other country in the world currently can stop US when it wants to go rampage
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    Quote Originally Posted by harveyulric View Post
    "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.
    I agree with that one whole heartedly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bufofrog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harveyulric View Post
    "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.
    I agree with that one whole heartedly!
    In the past it would be difficult to believe any group of nations with a different political system, to that of the West, but possessing superior technology would not have attempted to use this advantage to impose a certain amount of control over others.
    At present, perhaps you could tell us which political systems have superior "ideas and values" to those of the West.
    I know, let's use Israel as an example. A civilised Middle East country and just about the world's only nation doing "bad" things".
    Take China!
    W can call the system there "authoritarian" rather than "totalitarian".
    But the rule of law does not exist in that country.
    The law is what the top echelons of the Chinese Communist Party decide and can be altered, to suit this group, at any time. This ls pretty much the situation in many other regions where, apparently, the ideology is far superior to that of the West.
    Another fine example would be Putin's Russia!
    Despite having a system very different to that of the West they ruled an Empire, and a particularly brutal 20th one, where the rulers did not have to answer to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halliday View Post
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    "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.
    I agree with that one whole heartedly!
    In the past it would be difficult to believe any group of nations with a different political system, to that of the West, but possessing superior technology would not have attempted to use this advantage to impose a certain amount of control over others.
    At present, perhaps you could tell us which political systems have superior "ideas and values" to those of the West.
    I know, let's use Israel as an example. A civilised Middle East country and just about the world's only nation doing "bad" things".
    Take China!
    W can call the system there "authoritarian" rather than "totalitarian".
    But the rule of law does not exist in that country.
    The law is what the top echelons of the Chinese Communist Party decide and can be altered, to suit this group, at any time. This ls pretty much the situation in many other regions where, apparently, the ideology is far superior to that of the West.
    Another fine example would be Putin's Russia!
    Despite having a system very different to that of the West they ruled an Empire, and a particularly brutal 20th one, where the rulers did not have to answer to anyone.
    - i do not know what you are trying to sugarcoat at. "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." means US is not absolutely righteous nor the upholder of justice. im not saying these countries are superior to US. US is just simply arrogant.
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    Is the US arrogant? Or is it just the cheeto in chief that's a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xingha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Halliday View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bufofrog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harveyulric View Post
    "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.
    I agree with that one whole heartedly!
    In the past it would be difficult to believe any group of nations with a different political system, to that of the West, but possessing superior technology would not have attempted to use this advantage to impose a certain amount of control over others.
    At present, perhaps you could tell us which political systems have superior "ideas and values" to those of the West.
    I know, let's use Israel as an example. A civilised Middle East country and just about the world's only nation doing "bad" things".
    Take China!
    W can call the system there "authoritarian" rather than "totalitarian".
    But the rule of law does not exist in that country.
    The law is what the top echelons of the Chinese Communist Party decide and can be altered, to suit this group, at any time. This ls pretty much the situation in many other regions where, apparently, the ideology is far superior to that of the West.
    Another fine example would be Putin's Russia!
    Despite having a system very different to that of the West they ruled an Empire, and a particularly brutal 20th one, where the rulers did not have to answer to anyone.
    - i do not know what you are trying to sugarcoat at. "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." means US is not absolutely righteous nor the upholder of justice. im not saying these countries are superior to US. US is just simply arrogant.
    The United States of America is not arrogant, nor is the incumbent 45th President Donald John Trump. Applying organised violence is a virtue if you want to win a war.
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    "Applying organised violence is a virtue if you want to win a war"
    - indeed though telling me what is war will not get us to the point. why war? "
    superiority of its ideas or values or religion"?

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    The United States of America is not arrogant"
    - then what? an angel of destruction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wilson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xingha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Halliday View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bufofrog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harveyulric View Post
    "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.
    I agree with that one whole heartedly!
    In the past it would be difficult to believe any group of nations with a different political system, to that of the West, but possessing superior technology would not have attempted to use this advantage to impose a certain amount of control over others.
    At present, perhaps you could tell us which political systems have superior "ideas and values" to those of the West.
    I know, let's use Israel as an example. A civilised Middle East country and just about the world's only nation doing "bad" things".
    Take China!
    W can call the system there "authoritarian" rather than "totalitarian".
    But the rule of law does not exist in that country.
    The law is what the top echelons of the Chinese Communist Party decide and can be altered, to suit this group, at any time. This ls pretty much the situation in many other regions where, apparently, the ideology is far superior to that of the West.
    Another fine example would be Putin's Russia!
    Despite having a system very different to that of the West they ruled an Empire, and a particularly brutal 20th one, where the rulers did not have to answer to anyone.
    - i do not know what you are trying to sugarcoat at. "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." means US is not absolutely righteous nor the upholder of justice. im not saying these countries are superior to US. US is just simply arrogant.
    The United States of America is not arrogant, nor is the incumbent 45th President Donald John Trump. Applying organised violence is a virtue if you want to win a war.
    What war is to be won against low income people,brown people, and LGBT people. Trump is a xenophobic bigot,not a hero
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    Threads drift a bit, they all do, but I cannot understand your last post about waging war against low income people ( what colour are they ), waging war against brown people ( what about people who are not brown ). Waging war against LGBT people, well you have completely lost me there.
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    Acting clueless is not becoming. Trump is actively attacking, demonizing, and dehumanizing anyone thats not a while christian male.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    Acting clueless is not becoming. Trump is actively attacking, demonizing, and dehumanizing anyone thats not a while christian male.
    What about white Christian females ?
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    Obvious troll is obvious.
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    "Once again WH supports a dictator who kills his own people: Bashar al-Assad (Syria) against the Islamic State."
    - we all knew that US supports the one who will raise their flag (in other words, where their interest align). doesn't matter if its an angel or devil. i don't share the impression of the majority that sees US as a super hero like in their marvel comics (in other words, its only business for the US). but there's a lot of missing pieces for me to have good understanding of the relationship between US and the middle-east (ex: how their love-hate relationship began and what is the root cause).

    btw, i heard in the news that Turkey is driving off away Syrian Kurds (which is US ally). can someone humor me wats going on?
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    @xingha. Do not, I repeat, NOT equate the actions of Trump to the US views on ANYTHING. He is acting unilaterally and very clearly with only his personal interests as his only goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    @xingha. Do not, I repeat, NOT equate the actions of Trump to the US views on ANYTHING. He is acting unilaterally and very clearly with only his personal interests as his only goal.
    - i don't remember pointing out Trump nor even mention his name. if u don't like Trump as your president, don't place the weight on me. the affair of US with the middle-east has been there already even before Trump became the US president so i don't know where did u get your assumption of me
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    You specifically mention the recent removal of troops, that was Trump, as is the massive increase in rhetoric.

    The majority of the us population did,NOT vote this president in, and its clear that there was foreign interference in the 2016 election.
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