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    For the Solar panel tariff:
    The solar panel tariff started with solar panel-maker Suniva (who filed bankruptcy) filed the complaint with the U.S. International Trade Commission. And the trade commission sided with them.
    https://arstechnica.com/information-...ed-by-imports/

    “On behalf of the entire solar cell and panel manufacturing industry, we welcome this important step toward securing relief from a surge of imports that has idled and shuttered dozens of factories, leaving thousands of workers without jobs.”
    -Juergen Stein, CEO and president of SolarWorld Americas
    https://www.solarpowerworldonline.co...tariff-ruling/

    Against the Solar panel tariff
    Those in the solar industry installation business however are very unhappy about the tariff siting previous failed attempts.
    (six years ago) “The first time the United States tried to protect solar industry manufacturing jobs from foreign competition, things did not go exactly as planned. Chinese solar panel makers evaded U.S. tariffs by relocating to Taiwan, and the Chinese government retaliated with its own duties on U.S. exports of the raw material used in making the panels — leading U.S. manufacturers to lay off more than 1,000 workers and scrap a new $1.2 billion factory.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.49156f9d7313

    The Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) estimates that the tariff “will cause the loss of roughly 23,000 American jobs this year”
    https://www.seia.org/news/presidents...s-loss-america

    Corruption
    The oil, gas and coal companies stand the most to gain from sluggish growth in the renewable energy market. The raised $107 million for Trump’s inauguration, and have spent 36.1 million on federal lobbying efforts from Jan. 1 through March 31. And the money seems to be paying off:
    1) Rescinding ban dumping toxic heavy metals into waterways
    2) Keystone XL Pipeline and the Dakota Access Pipeline
    3) Rolling back the Clean Power Plan
    4) Opening up protected lands to drilling and mining interests
    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017...p-s-swamp-cash

    Going so far as to nominate them to his cabinet
    1) ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State
    2) Rick Perry for Secretary of Energy
    https://www.oilandgasinvestor.com/tr...ocates-1453571

    Closing
    All this in the face of climate change disasters we’re seeing in places like fires in California, flooding in Houston, and Puerto Rico four months later still has 450k people without power, and “Power may not be fully restored until May”.
    https://weather.com/news/news/2018-0...es-restoration


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    The funny thing is neither company that brought suits that resulted in this terrif are American.

    Meanwhile US panel makers will have increased cost, because their sources of solar cells will now cost more due to the tariff and it will make them less competitive overseas. (which is one big reason why modern tariffs almost never work. Meanwhile one of the biggest growing segments of the job producers (installers) will probably suffer.

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    All official descriptions are saying the terriff is on solar cells, while the media is widely saying solar panels. I think the media doesn't know the difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    The funny thing is neither company that brought suits that resulted in this terrif are American.

    Meanwhile US panel makers will have increased cost, because their sources of solar cells will now cost more due to the tariff and it will make them less competitive overseas. (which is one big reason why modern tariffs almost never work. Meanwhile one of the biggest growing segments of the job producers (installers) will probably suffer.

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    All official descriptions are saying the terriff is on solar cells, while the media is widely saying solar panels. I think the media doesn't know the difference.
    Agreed. I think it's going to hurt us much more than it's going to help us.
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    From afar it looks like solar panel manufacturers in the USA, marketing domestically are likely to gain some short term benefit. Solar installers and would be owners look likely to be negatively affected. A lot more people work installing solar PV in the US than making panels; I've seen estimates more jobs and economic activity at risk than are likely to be saved. Will this result in a stronger US solar panel manufacturing sector? It won't help those reliant on export sales but I suppose that it is possible, if companies use the breathing space with reduced competition well to reposition onto a firmer footing - but China's manufacturers are a fast moving target in a fast expanding sector; I wouldn't be surprised if the price advantage from the tariffs won't last very long and if US manufacturers can't compete within the US without the tariff they will struggle outside it. Outside the US is going to be most of the global market.
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