Thread: Trump's (USA's purse strings)

It is becoming a theme: the UN,Pakistan,Palestine.

"We give you money for nothing in return"

Who will fill the void when the USA nakedly shows her attachments are purely mercenary and to be withdrawn at the whim of a disreputable fool?

Will it be business as usual when or if Trump is hoiked out of office one way or another?

No. The voids are already being filled by China all over the world... both in dealing with nations as well as international cooperative agreements such as trade. The US is choosing to surrender one of the primary means to convey our values--one proven over the past 70 years and largely responsible for the most peaceful period in human history. But now we're going to allow China's fantastic view on human rights to replace our...wonderful.

Originally Posted by geordief

It is becoming a theme: the UN,Pakistan,Palestine.

"We give you money for nothing in return"

Who will fill the void when the USA nakedly shows her attachments are purely mercenary and to be withdrawn at the whim of a disreputable fool?

Will it be business as usual when or if Trump is hoiked out of office one way or another?

Donal T may be voted out of office, but he will not be hoiked out of office. Why on earth should the US of A give money to organisations and countries that despise the US of A. Here in the UK we are still doing just that, giving money away to organisations and countries that despise us. Lynx_Fox says that China will fill the void, well let them do it, see how that works for them.

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

Factual? He's constantly fabricating or exaggerating, that is not factual.

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

I agree with you, Donald Trump is the man.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

I agree with you, Donald Trump is the man.

He is indeed a man, but beyond that he isnt much of anything else. And is not factual at all

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

I agree with you, Donald Trump is the man.

He is indeed a man, but beyond that he isnt much of anything else. And is not factual at all

If a ball of shit can be a lightning rod then he is indeed a beacon of light to his admirers.

Originally Posted by geordief

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

I agree with you, Donald Trump is the man.

He is indeed a man, but beyond that he isnt much of anything else. And is not factual at all

If a ball of shit can be a lightning rod then he is indeed a beacon of light to his admirers.

Wow, you seem to have an angle on this. Donald T is usually referred to as a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and many more things, well done to you.

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

I agree with you, Donald Trump is the man.

He is indeed a man, but beyond that he isnt much of anything else. And is not factual at all

Donald T is POTUS, and that is a fact beyond dispute. Trump that if you can, dude.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

I agree with you, Donald Trump is the man.

He is indeed a man, but beyond that he isnt much of anything else. And is not factual at all

Donald T is POTUS, and that is a fact beyond dispute. Trump that if you can, dude.

What exactly is the point you are attempting to make? Potus is not omnipotent, though trump would like poeople to think he is.

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Piotr Myske

hey,
I would like Trump to become a president in Poland, he's very concrete, factual. i think wthat this men can make this country strong

I agree with you, Donald Trump is the man.

He is indeed a man, but beyond that he isnt much of anything else. And is not factual at all

Donald T is POTUS, and that is a fact beyond dispute. Trump that if you can, dude.

What exactly is the point you are attempting to make? Potus is not omnipotent, though trump would like poeople to think he is.

The fact is, Donald T is POTUS.

Where has anyone said he isn't? And where have you made a case for the relevence of that fact?

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Where has anyone said he isn't? And where have you made a case for the relevence of that fact?

Leave Dave to his little mental masturbation. He's just trolling for the sake of trolling at this point. Once upon a time, you could has a discussion with him, but those days are long passed. Much like the the days of respectable Republican leaders are long passed.

Originally Posted by Falconer360

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Where has anyone said he isn't? And where have you made a case for the relevence of that fact?

Leave Dave to his little mental masturbation. He's just trolling for the sake of trolling at this point. Once upon a time, you could has a discussion with him, but those days are long passed. Much like the the days of respectable Republican leaders are long passed.

I only have to type a few words and I get accused of trolling, so be it. Check your post, you have made a little error.

We are still waiting for you to answer Dave.....

Or you can fully admit to being a troll and letting the mods decide how to proceed

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

We are still waiting for you to answer Dave.....

Or you can fully admit to being a troll and letting the mods decide how to proceed

Your meaning is that if I do not share your political views, I am a troll, and now by your words, you are trying to influence a mod to take some sort of action against me. Shame on you dude.

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Where has anyone said he isn't? And where have you made a case for the relevance of that fact?

We are still waiting for you to answer this Dave.

But you are actively avoiding doing so, thus its pretty clear seeming that you are a troll.

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Where has anyone said he isn't? And where have you made a case for the relevance of that fact?

We are still waiting for you to answer this Dave.

But you are actively avoiding doing so, thus its pretty clear seeming that you are a troll.

So you say, but all you are trying to do is queer the pitch.

That again, does not answer the questions.

So you have avoided the simple process of answering 6 different times now.

It's clear you dont actually want to have any discussion.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

So you say, but all you are trying to do is queer the pitch.

And all you've done, so far, is introduce an irrelevancy and then avoided saying why you bothered to do so.
Please answer the question posed.

Originally Posted by Dywyddyr

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

So you say, but all you are trying to do is queer the pitch.

And all you've done, so far, is introduce an irrelevancy and then avoided saying why you bothered to do so.
Please answer the question posed.

This particular thread died a death after post number 3 on January 7th 2018. The thread was resurrected (post number 4 ) by a dude from Poland on October 30th 2018 who wanted Donald T to become president of Poland. Post number 5 was by Paleoichneum on October 30th 2018 disagreeing with post number 4. Post number 6 was made by myself on November 1st 2018 agreeing with the Polish dude in post number 4, and that is the point where everything went South. Paleoichneum asked an inane question which I could not answer, this is a tactic that he has used for many years. When people do not answer he asks the same question again and again demanding an answer. Then eventually he gets moderator intervention, you probably do not keep a log of people asking for moderator intervention, but if you did, Paleoichneum would most probably be top of the pops. We are both politically apposed , I am right wing of Nigel Farage, he is left wing of Bernie Sanders.

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Originally Posted by Dywyddyr

Then eventually he gets moderator intervention

No, he didn't.
I saw this thread getting a lot of responses and checked as to what was happening.

you probably do not keep a log of people asking for moderator intervention, but if you did, Paleoichneum would most probably be top of the pops.

All reported threads are kept in a particular (mod only) sub-forum. And Paleo is remarkably low on the list of reporters.

We are both politically apposed , I am right wing of Nigel Farage, he is left wing of Bernie Sanders.

And you still haven't explained the relevance, if any, of your post.
Last chance.

This thread has only 22 responses. Your mod sub forum most probably does not go back too many years because of the disentigration of this forum over recent years. I have to say that you were one of the key players in the disentigration of this forum due to your spat with Harold.

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Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

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Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

This thread has only 22 responses. Your mod sub forum most probably does not go back too many years because of the disentigration of this forum over recent years. I have to say that you were one of the key players in the disentigration of this forum due to your spat with Harold.

I would say that Harold being a sanctimonious twat would be a huge key to what happened to this forum. Not to mention his pathetically childish temper tantrum at the end. Good riddance to Harold.

Originally Posted by Falconer360

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

This thread has only 22 responses. Your mod sub forum most probably does not go back too many years because of the disentigration of this forum over recent years. I have to say that you were one of the key players in the disentigration of this forum due to your spat with Harold.

I would say that Harold being a sanctimonious twat would be a huge key to what happened to this forum. Not to mention his pathetically childish temper tantrum at the end. Good riddance to Harold.

That is what you say, but this forum has been in free fall ever since Harold left, the evidence is there to see.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Falconer360

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

This thread has only 22 responses. Your mod sub forum most probably does not go back too many years because of the disentigration of this forum over recent years. I have to say that you were one of the key players in the disentigration of this forum due to your spat with Harold.

I would say that Harold being a sanctimonious twat would be a huge key to what happened to this forum. Not to mention his pathetically childish temper tantrum at the end. Good riddance to Harold.

That is what you say, but this forum has been in free fall ever since Harold left, the evidence is there to see.

I suppose I should ask you to clarify what you mean by freefall? If you're referring to the outages, and it crashing for months, that has nothing to do with Harold or the duck, or any of our mods. That is solely the blame of the absentee site owner who appears to not care about this forum anymore. If you're referring to the the relative lack of users here, that is yet again related to the absentee site owner, by allowing the site to crash and become so unstable he drove away the vast majority of the longterm users and made it less likely to attract new users.

You are so wrong, but have it your way.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

You are so wrong, but have it your way.

how so ? the events Falconer describes are exactly how I remember to be
I myself stopped frequenting this forum because of the loss of access and subsequent loss of posts once it came back on

as for Harold, I think he started to overstep the mark once he demoted a moderator without any prior warning or discussion
imo it’s a confirmation of the dictum “if you want to really know a person, give them power”

a pity, I used to like Harold

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

You are so wrong, but have it your way.

Then please explain exactly what you mean.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

That is what you say, but this forum has been in free fall ever since Harold left, the evidence is there to see.

Why? Because it's been crashing? Has nothing to do with Harold.

Because Harold is no longer here to use his power to try to force his viewpoint on people, and people are more free to express opinions? If that's 'freefall' then it's a very good thing.

Originally Posted by billvon

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

That is what you say, but this forum has been in free fall ever since Harold left, the evidence is there to see.

Why? Because it's been crashing? Has nothing to do with Harold.

Because Harold is no longer here to use his power to try to force his viewpoint on people, and people are more free to express opinions? If that's 'freefall' then it's a very good thing.

If you have been following this thread, you will know that I was suspended for a few days after post number 24, all I was doing was expressing an opinion.

You were suspended for refusing to answer questions posed to you, not for expressing opinions

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

You were suspended for refusing to answer questions posed to you, not for expressing opinions

So says the Witchfinder General.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

If you have been following this thread, you will know that I was suspended for a few days after post number 24, all I was doing was expressing an opinion.

Nope. You were posting trollbait then refusing to answer questions about it.

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

You were suspended for refusing to answer questions posed to you, not for expressing opinions

So says the Witchfinder General.

Asking you you explain WHY you posted something is not witchfinding, it's discussing. You actively refused to give any explanation, that was the problem

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

You were suspended for refusing to answer questions posed to you, not for expressing opinions

So says the Witchfinder General.

Asking you you explain WHY you posted something is not witchfinding, it's discussing. You actively refused to give any explanation, that was the problem

Well that is Dave's general MO after all. Chime in on a political topic with something irrelevant and then refuse to explain why he posted whatever it was.