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    Seems they want to try and pass CISPA again.

    Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Other than the fact there is a petition to stop it, that needs to get just under 20000 more signatures before march 15, does anyone have any thoughts on this?


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    I get the impression that it allows officers and agents to bypass due process of law.


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    I don't really know to much about this new bill being proposed in the United States, but from the looks of it it does seem just another infringement on civil liberties. Do people really want any more restictions on their liberty in a country that prizes it's freedoms so highly?, I wouldn't have thought so, is there any great appitite to hand more power to goverment agencies, I wouldn't have thought so. What's wrong with using the powers they already have more effectively and efficiently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I don't really know to much about this new bill being proposed in the United States, but from the looks of it it does seem just another infringement on civil liberties. Do people really want any more restictions on their liberty in a country that prizes it's freedoms so highly?, I wouldn't have thought so, is there any great appitite to hand more power to goverment agencies, I wouldn't have thought so. What's wrong with using the powers they already have more effectively and efficiently?
    The educated understand and know the dangers of government siezing feedom/power/rights from the people. The educated even understand how goverments do it. Unfortunately, the uneducated are the clueless majority and they tend to remain so for far to long.Every abuse of power and violation one can imagine this law can be used for will occur, it is just a matter of when it will happen. When governments are given or take a power they will keep it and they will use it, sooner or later, to harm, abuse or violate the governed.

    I am all for security but, i am not for government using the term security to attack the peoples rights. IMO Its a bad law for the people, but it is a great law for an abusive and power hungry government.

    The courts, congress and the white house will often fight each other tooth and nail to keep their individual rights/powers, but they tend to get along pretty well when they are taking the rights/powers of the people away.
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    Like good old Ben Franklin said, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    This isn't a new concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    Like good old Ben Franklin said, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."This isn't a new concept.
    The truth of the matter is that these type of bills are not even about security, they are about government granting government the authority to disregard the bill of rights. It is about siezing the rights of the people inorder for the government to gain more power and control over the american people.

    Since 9/11 the US has slowly been becoming a police state. The US is only a few more laws, orders and new definitions away from completely destroying herself. Again though, bad for the american people, great for the government.

    The good news is that every so often the American people as a whole sometimes find shame in what they have allowed and even supported, and then demand the shameful acts, policies and laws be stopped. I personally hope this happens.
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    So the law passed and no small help that it was by an executive presidential order. Lesser of two evils is still evil.
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    it passed the house but not the senate, and that was last year. Now they have reintroduced it and haven't changed anything in it. I guess they were just hoping no one was paying attention this time around.

    They haven't voted on it yet this time around. So the petitions are still relevant.
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