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    whats this about medicare and how he wants to give a voucher?this could work?


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    this could work?
    For some meanings of 'work'.

    The big problem of the vouchers is that, afaics, you could finish up with the same ludicrous position you have now of people running out of cover just when they need it most or of being forced by lack of money/voucher to be unable to buy the right kind of insurance cover in the first place.

    (But I live in a country with a decent health system, Australia, so I'm not fully across how this could be better, worse or much the same as the totally inadequate system the US now has.)


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    And most of us don't want our grandparents and great grandparents already confused by age and a society that's completely changed during their lifespans (hell I feel that way and I'm not old yet) trying to figure out complex medical coverage agreements at different cost between providers--we just want them to be able to get the help they need as easily and simply as possible.
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    I hate to be another negative voice on this, but another reason it would be pointless is that there is no virtually such thing as varying quality in insurance. There can't be by the very definition of the industry.

    An insurance company is just some company that pays your medical bills. The hospital's performance determines the cost of your care. Some insurance companies might be shrewd negotiators that get a better price from the hospitals, but the hospitals aren't going to be so naive that they agree to provide care for less than their costs (at least not usually.) All one insurance company can really do to be different from another is more narrowly define your risk category, or give you a more interesting menu of deductibles and coverage amounts.

    There's no magical way for an insurance company to lower its own price. It's a straight forward risk calculation. Actuaries/Underwriters compare statistics for a million or more people who all match your risk description, add up the costs for the group, and divide by the number of people. Once they've done that, they now know the minimum price their company could possibly charge and not expect to lose more than they make off of you. To that baseline, the company then adds a markup. I don't think trimming deeper into that markup is going to solve the healthcare crisis. It may help a little, but that markup is what they're using to pay their employees so they can't trim it down to zero.
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    Paul Ryan has good conservative ideas.
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    Paul Ryan has good conservative ideas.
    From what I've seen, Paul Ryan doesn't just have good conservative ideas, he has the full set all the way to the downright ugly ones.

    One thing I don't know, though. I've just finished watching a re-run of National Parks: America's Best Idea. A lot of the best work on national parks and monuments was done by conservative presidents. Has Ryan ever said anything about national parks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    Has Ryan ever said anything about national parks?
    His budget sort of says it all.

    http://democrats.naturalresources.ho...an-budget-cuts

    Some of these probably could be cut, such as the wildlife service, who's positions could be done by the states. Others such as cuts to NOAA would cut deeply into the major research arm which we need to project and monitor environmental events such as climate change and weather including such as the mega storm that just hit the East Coast.
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    Oh okay.

    This is about natural resources , so we can trust "nature" to take care of them. Just saw a thread elsewhere about Wildlife Resources - look as though they should be shaken up. Though I wouldn't trust the states to eliminate the kinds of problems we're talking about here.
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