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    Would you want a "atheist" president? Why yes, Why not?

    Me, I would vote for this President. Would not even take interest in others.


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    Well I would have to consider his stance on many subjects, but they would likely be similar to mine.

    Although, we all know an atheist wont make it into the white house for a few decades at least, right? Not until the >40% of Americans who don't 'believe' in evolution die and their children smarten the hell up. I doubt they'll smarten up though. With the amount of brainwashing and the garbage education system the bible belt adheres to, most will never be able to think reasonably, and will instead cling to their precious beliefs and continue to have 8 children and teach them about how atheists are not people and scientists are liars.

    Sorry, but the day I see an atheist in the white house is the day I know the US has done a complete 180 for the better. I sincerely doubt that will happen within my lifetime.


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    I would have no problem voting for an atheist, but I would be considering much more important issues than their belief in god(s). Being atheist doesn't automatically mean you'd be a better leader than a theist. Atheist is a pretty useless term, as it offers no information except their position on belief. By example, if I tell you I don't believe in leprechauns, do you suddenly feel that much more informed about me as a human? No. You need more information.
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    I cannot fathom why anyone believes in the supernatural; I freely admit it's a complete mystery to me. Yet very smart people (for example our current president) and very stupid people (for example his predecessor in that job) share similar basic beliefs. There is no correlation between ability to do the job and a belief system. If an atheist ran for president I would place that particular characteristic quite far down the list of selection criteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunbury
    I cannot fathom why anyone believes in the supernatural; I freely admit it's a complete mystery to me. Yet very smart people (for example our current president) and very stupid people (for example his predecessor in that job) share similar basic beliefs. There is no correlation between ability to do the job and a belief system. If an atheist ran for president I would place that particular characteristic quite far down the list of selection criteria.
    I understand, its all a teachings from birth. Lets say we have a empty mind. That mind now needs a template for how this brain interprets everything..

    That template is religion and stupid spiritual stuff, if only we could have purely calculated, "Animals" not this great special all powerful Human that we today make up. Damn, everything I see I just feel so depressed EVERYTHING is sooo static.. All related to a single point..
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    Religious belief is a strong consideration but not a make or break criteria with probably one exception: I don't think I'll ever vote for a non-intellectually curious born-again Christian. A couple of the 2012 candidates will not get my vote mostly due to their narrow and ignorant view of the world largely from their religion. Likewise a self-proclaimed atheist who couldn't explain the root of their moral belief and was unfamiliar with the numerous sources of secular and humanist moral philosophies would have a hard time getting my vote.
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    As others have said, it depends on who this atheist is. I wouldn't vote for someone like Ayn Rand, her being atheist does nothing to improve my opinion of Objectivism.
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    U.S. Constitution, Article VI, paragraph 3;

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
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    The Constitutional laws of course means they can run for office, but has little to do with individual voter criteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox
    The Constitutional laws of course means they can run for office, but has little to do with individual voter criteria.
    Nor does it really have an effect on the way that large blocks of voters so often tend to align and cast their ballots with Borg-like uniformity; brought together by their association with religion, or other peripheral and related issues like abortion, gay marriage, and various other group identity metrics. It's more about "(s)he's one of us" or "not one of us" than about "the constitution allows him/her to be there."
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    large blocks of voters so often tend to align and cast their ballots with Borg-like uniformity; brought together by their association with religion...
    And since all parties and candidates understand that, I'm afraid religious stance must now be carefully aligned with campaign.

    We have a bit of this in Canada too, with a conservative party emulating its kindred party to the south, though historically some of our greatest leftists were also outspokenly religious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    And since all parties and candidates understand that, I'm afraid religious stance must now be carefully aligned with campaign.

    We have a bit of this in Canada too, with a conservative party emulating its kindred party to the south, though historically some of our greatest leftists were also outspokenly religious.
    That's because our far left has strong ties to the social gospel movement. The United Church is still officially tied to the New Democratic Party. Socialism grew out of rural farmers coalitions in Canada separate from the labour organizations in Southern Ontario. It also took a different turn in Quebec where it became aligned with the nationalist movement. Religion doesn't necessitate conservatism, it just tends to be the trend in the West at the moment.

    But even the previous election the only federal party lead by a member who consider himself "not a church guy" was Michael Ignatief of the Liberals, who is a non-practicing Russian Orthodox Christian. Jack Layton of the NDP is United. Elizabeth May of the Greens is a practicing Anglican. Harper of the Tories belongs to a wacko Christian fundamentalist organization from Alberta that believes in the rapture.

    The only outright atheist to lead a Canadian political party, that has held seats in parliament, was Gilles Duceppes.
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    I don't care what religion a president is, or not. Just that he has the heart of an American, and has leadership experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
    I don't care what religion a president is, or not. Just that he has the heart of an American, and has leadership experience.
    OOHH! Let's transplant your heart into Hitler and make him president.
    He has leadership experience, and after the operation, the heart of an American!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil
    U.S. Constitution, Article VI, paragraph 3;

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
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