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  1. #1 the united states and the "free riders" 
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    In the beginning, I'd like to insert a concept of "free riders" in international relations, it is when the state obtained benefits with non-ratification on some "International arrangements" ( agreements, protocols... ), free rider is a person who benefits from something without paying from it. This is especially relevant in the case of environmental economics , the united states ratified on the Kyoto Protocol " for treating global warming problems" in 1998, but its Withdrew from it in 2001, the reason "according to the congress" is the expensive cost, the protocol Required that the states must be replacement the traditional Factories with "Eco-friendly technologies " in industrial activities, in this situation the US will profit from " free riders", how? "Eco-friendly technologies" is expensive and Therefore the Products also will makes expensive, the US's products still Cheap compared with its counterpart Japanese and Canadian..., according to realist theory the states firstly look at its interests, the US withdrew when she saw that its interests at stake, through a commitment to structural arrangements of Kyoto protocol. Eventually the American products will Compete with Canadian, European and Japanese products, and will occupy their markets easily.
    The reaction of these states is putting many restrictions on American goods like "tariffs", we can say here that these states is punished the "free riders" of US , at the end, we will get the balance of Pareto , And we get the optimal point, this latter is the point of Equivalence prices.
    The problem here is not with prices, is the environment and the failure of cooperation in face to "global warming" and put seriousness agenda for promoting the environmental security, the reason of The absence of cooperative system according to neoinstitutionalisme theory, due to the failure of markets itself for redeveloping a system more cooperative, "when the failure market will happen, the specialists will accept the microeconomic that it is necessary to looking for an alternative mechanism to the market, this mechanism for Create cooperation instead competition , inside the state there is authority and hierarchy of authority , but in the international life there is no exist to the ' global authority ' could Impose the order, And accordingly there is international anarchic system, the Neoinstitutionalisme account see that there is a possibility to mitigation this anarchy by institutional cooperation, Kyoto protocol launched in the framework of UN, but we haven't see effective results after more than 10 years. Is it the absence of US? Or we need to rebirth K-P?
    Why we need the US? We need the US in this era, There is two reasons
    1- the US is the second source in the world of emissions CO2, CFC…
    2- the significant contribution of the US in " Balanced Environmental Fund " 140 billion dollars.
    There is an efforts to substitute Kyoto protocol with another treaty, and we saw the last conference in Copenhagen, December, 7, 2009. I think here that the "positive"outputs of conference would be modest, why?
    The global financial crisis; issues more important for the US ( arms, Iraq and Afghanistan…); the new proposal (sharing the oil-producing states part of financial responsibility for reducing emissions CfC )
    The Kyoto protocol will expire in 2012, and the need for new protocol or treaty is remain, addressed to treatment eco-dilemmas, but it must be contain two important matters :
    Looking for alternatives " green energy" such solar energy, the project of "desert-tech" erou-maghreb partnership in domain of energy.
    And transfer of technology, toward developing countries.
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    Markets respond to short term pressures. We will respond to climate change when the sea is lapping at the doors of Wall Street.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aboud7
    The reaction of these states is putting many restrictions on American goods like "tariffs", we can say here that these states is punished the "free riders" of US , at the end, we will get the balance of Pareto , And we get the optimal point, this latter is the point of Equivalence prices.
    That would be the appropriate response. There's this foolish economic doctrine going around that says nobody should tarrif anybody, but it's just to enforce rules. With no tarrifs, you can't even compete on an equal footing with lazy people who hold to lower ideals.

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    Markets respond to short term pressures. We will respond to climate change when the sea is lapping at the doors of Wall Street.
    Lol. That is the problem with the free market, isn't it? It doesn't think ahead because it can't think ahead. It's specifically designed not to.
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    aboud7, I don't think you can get anything indeed helpful here.
    You will find out everyone here is just talking about he/she stored in his/her "read only hard disk" kind brain, you are not even communicating or exchange minds. Just like some Chinese forum I saw before, but there are much more threads, it's disappointing here.
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