Thread: The Pirate Party!

"The Pirate Party (Swedish: Piratpartiet) is a political party in Sweden. It strives to reform laws regarding copyright and patents. The agenda also includes support for a strengthening of the right to privacy, both on the Internet and in everyday life, and the transparency of state administration."

oh yeah!

Who's their opposition? The Ninja Party?

the robots who render all the pop music, movie scripts and television plots

Making fun of the name is a fair shot and understandable, but you guys evidently havent read their program, its about privacy, copy rights and government transparency, topics that ought to be given a LOT more importance and arent by traditional parties.

Privacy in recent times with internet, personnal information on databases, data mining, security cameras and phone tracking systems needs to be taken seriously.

Internet is now part of our life, and paradoxically enough part of our private life. If you have a conversaion in a bar its private, if you do the same online it ought to be considered private to some degree, otherwise everyone will be too paranoid to express their opinions. In addition, communications intended to be private are being monitored under the guise of national security and copyright policing, that would be like having you personal letters opened to verify them and your phone conversation also evesdropped on.

Net neutrality is something else that appears to lack the attention it requires.

Everyone's life is everyone's business.

"If you have a conversaion in a bar its private"
conversation

Private in what sense?

That it's not anyone elses bussiness what your talking about?

That's silly and territorial. This conversation is MY conversation, these words are from my mouth to so-and-so's ears, and you better not ponder any of these sound waves. If you do you better not respond.

This is archaic. Conversation is conversation. If someone butts in and you don't want them to, then it's up to you to leave. They may not want to listen to you, so if your saying something they don't like, it's not a matter of shutting off one's ears, and especially when drinking, it's not a matter of focusing one's attention away, because that can be harder for some than others.

If you want privacy it's up to you to find it, not up to others to give it to you.

marcusclayman, I think you are totally missing the point

we are heading straight to a 1984 or old soviet parnoid societey although it does not look like it at the moment

because we feel free to say what we want online as it should be. But in the old soviet people(lets assume) were paranoid because they felt under surveilance and expressing the wrong opinion could be trouble. So far its not been like that in the West, what you said in the bar (opinions) didnt have any consequences in your professional life, because your employer could not easily and thus would not track you to the bar and evesdrop to see what your opinion was on various subjects that arent its business, this has been the case to a certain extent online too. Increasingly this is changing in part you are right because people dont acknowledge the full extent of the privacy theyre jeopardizing but also because the noziness factor and ability to evesdrop is increasing. Privately owned system can now track peoples movements throught their cell phones, the examples of technology making it easier to know about thing that arent your business and infringe on peoples privacy are increasing each year.

Consumers need to learn what "buyer's power" is.

Originally Posted by icewendigo

"The Pirate Party (Swedish: Piratpartiet) is a political party in Sweden. It strives to reform laws regarding copyright and patents. The agenda also includes support for a strengthening of the right to privacy, both on the Internet and in everyday life, and the transparency of state administration."

oh yeah!

I have been thinking about these copyright and patent laws and I think they should be revised to prevent excessive enrichment of their use.
A 17 year stretch for these rights are too long because this is a government crutch granted to the individuals for personal enrichment . Therefore the government should prevent these EXCESSIVE enrichments to prevent the HOARDINGS that result 'and as a reasult, contribute to econnomic slumps as now exists.

My solution is to evaluate all applications for these crutches to place a predetermined value and then when that value is begotten by the recipients, the copyright or patents be TERMINATED.

With this method, it would reduce the numbers of billionaires and multi-millionaires that now exist. Since these accumulated dollars become STAGNANT, they have stopped circulating and so this contributes to a 'slowing' of the economy.

Our current slump is a byproduct of this lopsided distribution of the wealth that the WORKERS CREATE .
So lately, the workrts wages have gone down while the billionaire populations have increased by large margins.

Incidentally, our US C'N mandares a democracy that represents the citizens but the influece dollars have 'hijacked' our democracy and have transformed it into a dollar republic.
So the 'piracy' label can be applied to these INFLUEBCE dollars.

Cosmo

"My solution is to evaluate all applications for these crutches to place a predetermined value and then when that value is begotten by the recipients, the copyright or patents be TERMINATED. "

Im not sure I understand correctly, but if you mean a patent is terminated once a cost is recuperated then there is a flaw, cases where the patent holder has no intention of actually manufacturing the technology any time soon or ever.

1- Chevron's NiHM patent was aquired for the purpose of preventing by means of litigation Toyota from selling its Toyota Rav4EV. Chevron wont make money with NiMH because by not developing it(and making sure no one else does) they can make billions upon billions with Oil.

2- Some patents are aquired by parasitical law firms who specialize in patent aquisition and litigation, these have no intention whatsoever of ever putting to market any invention they acquire, they just hoard them and pull them out when an actual manufacturer comes out with a similar product, like the parasitical speculative douchebags that buy-up Domain names not to actually use it but to resell it at a super-inflated price to the people that actually mean to do something with it but have to pay their 800% parasite tax.

Making fun of the name is a fair shot and understandable

Why choose a name that is an obvious target for jokes if they want to be taken seriously? I mean, we all take the Republican Party seriously, don't we?

Ice

Patents and copyrights are issued to advance the societies progress.

So these types of blockades can be overuled by 'time ' limits also.

So a 'capital gain' and time limit can both be applied.
After all, the point here is to advance progress.

Cosmo