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    How much do you think the general public effects science?


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    To the extent of the general public's desires and intention.


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    The general public is concerned with just surviving and raising families.

    So science would no doubt be by just those that showed an interest.

    My guess? Maybe 10-20%(?)

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    Not one jot!

    THe public en masse accepts what it is given, there is no public cry to cure cancer, we do not see significant numbers of people writing to their governments demanding research in specific fields, such requests as are received are almost universally from academia.

    When did you last try to push science in a direction that suited you?

    In fact I'd say the general public may well be against much research, most people seem to hate change. In the UK decimal/metric came in from the late 60's yet people still equate more to stones/pounds and ounces than they do the metric system, most things are still sold using both measurements, all road signs are still in MPH.

    We protest against the rising cost of petrol/gasoline yet do we have rallies demanding research into cheaper alternatives? - I certainly cannot remember any but, miles of HGV vehicles blocking the motorway in protest is a clear memory to me.

    Of course we all want cancer cured and a great many of us make charitable donations to this end but to ask the Govt to directly fund it would result in higher taxes and more missile research...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    Not one jot!

    THe public en masse accepts what it is given, there is no public cry to cure cancer, we do not see significant numbers of people writing to their governments demanding research in specific fields, such requests as are received are almost universally from academia.

    When did you last try to push science in a direction that suited you?

    In fact I'd say the general public may well be against much research, most people seem to hate change. In the UK decimal/metric came in from the late 60's yet people still equate more to stones/pounds and ounces than they do the metric system, most things are still sold using both measurements, all road signs are still in MPH.

    We protest against the rising cost of petrol/gasoline yet do we have rallies demanding research into cheaper alternatives? - I certainly cannot remember any but, miles of HGV vehicles blocking the motorway in protest is a clear memory to me.

    Of course we all want cancer cured and a great many of us make charitable donations to this end but to ask the Govt to directly fund it would result in higher taxes and more missile research...
    Well, our government is 'supposed ' to be a Constitutional Democracy but instead, we have a 'dollar republic'.

    Or in other words, dollars rule. So IMO, our healthcare system is a business rather than a true healing system like the Naturopathic physicians use that have to operate outside the current government healthcare system.

    So if you want to be cured of cancer, go to a Naturopathic healthcare system.
    Than you have a better chance of being healed by a ratio of 3 or 4 to one.
    These doctors perform miracles with some of the rejects as terminals from the gove rnment approoved system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    Not one jot!

    THe public en masse accepts what it is given, there is no public cry to cure cancer, we do not see significant numbers of people writing to their governments demanding research in specific fields, such requests as are received are almost universally from academia.

    When did you last try to push science in a direction that suited you?

    In fact I'd say the general public may well be against much research, most people seem to hate change. In the UK decimal/metric came in from the late 60's yet people still equate more to stones/pounds and ounces than they do the metric system, most things are still sold using both measurements, all road signs are still in MPH.

    We protest against the rising cost of petrol/gasoline yet do we have rallies demanding research into cheaper alternatives? - I certainly cannot remember any but, miles of HGV vehicles blocking the motorway in protest is a clear memory to me.

    Of course we all want cancer cured and a great many of us make charitable donations to this end but to ask the Govt to directly fund it would result in higher taxes and more missile research...
    Well, sometimes the "change" is that somebody invents nuclear weapons. You end up having to take the good with the bad, and sometimes it's hard to say for sure whether the good is the stronger of the two effects.
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    Cosmo,

    The only problem with capitalism as it currently exists is that it's not operating under an optimal amount of choice and competition in the marketplace. This includes the research community.

    A far better application of federal funds would be to continue to take out federal taxes to fund research, but to allow each individual to write in where to send ther tax dollars, if they have a preference. This would introduce a free market dynamic, and promote a sense of empowerment and ownership on the part of the taxpayer, and encourage them to become more informed about the research community.
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