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    The Holographic Universe - Beyond Matter

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    Saw it before...

    Kind of a 'Matrix' philosophy thing.

    Well, it can't really be proven, can't really be dis-proven either. Science is all about studying what we perceive, and figuring out the rules of whatever we are studying at the time. The rules of the cosmos, the rules of particles, the rules of nature etc...

    Any theory that attempts to explain everything ends up not explaining anything at all.

    The logic ends up in a loop, either the perceived world is real, or our brains are receiving these signals from "somewhere else". Science cannot be used in this type of philosophical theory, since philosophy was created in our brains and science is the study of everything that can possibly be perceived. Either way, it helps to know the rules of the game, no matter it's true source.


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    Quote Originally Posted by madmonk
    The Holographic Universe - Beyond Matter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ic0MmHKCk

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    I got to where they said photons and turned it off. If they are not up to batting down a retarded phony particle like the photon, they should just give it up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
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    The Holographic Universe - Beyond Matter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ic0MmHKCk

    Enjoy!
    I got to where they said photons and turned it off. If they are not up to batting down a retarded phony particle like the photon, they should just give it up.


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    William McCormick

    Don't know what your problem is. Photons are real. Ever heard of 'photon emission' ? Ever heard of the 'atom bomb' ? That's kinda what happens in the splitting of an atom. When you split it, oh, let's assume we use a Uranium atom for this bomb, shall we?

    We split a Uranium-232 atom down the middle (Or the perceived middle of the atom--don't go MCCORMICKMAN mode on me now, it's a figure of speech) and we get, guess what? A boom. A big boom. You know why? The atom released a lot of energy because of E(energy)=M(mass of atom)C^2(the speed of light squared, 300,000 km/s/s). As such, what happened to the atom? Because of the Law of Conservation of Mass, obviously it didn't 'go boom' with the bomb--something happened to it.

    But what?

    It was split. It's become two NEW atoms now. Those split and continue the process.

    Eventually, you run out of protons, neutrons, and electrons.

    But even with the splitting--nothing would happen. They would just become new atoms--why else can atoms so calmly continue through half-lifes into a stable state? Because they don't emit photons.

    Photon = the single protons and neutrons that are emitted off of that Uranium-232 atom. The proton will quickly find a 'lazy electron' from the cloud of the bomb, and bond to form a stable Hydrogen atom. But what about the neutron? Once again, it can't simply vanish into thin air. And it has a definite weight of 1 AMU (atomic mass unit). So where does it go?

    It enflames itself when it bonds and disapparates with the air around it, due to the massive amounts of energy released. E=MC^2. That's your boom. Uranium-232 atoms splitting down continuously until they form simple atoms with atomic numbers less than or equal to Fluorine. The neutrons, no longer needed for most of these elements to be made stable, combust when exposed to the air and energy present in the reactions.

    *Takes a bow*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiar
    The atom released a lot of energy because of E(energy)=M(mass of atom)C^2(the speed of light squared, 300,000 km/s/s).
    This hadn't occurred to me until reading that: what exactly is the unit of 'energy'? For example, acceleration is a vector quantity with the dimension distance / time in the scale of meters / seconds squared. Energy appears to be mass * (distance / time). I feel this nagging sensation in my brain telling me that energy having a time dimension has greater implications.

    I also notice one other issue: If mass is just another name for energy (According to Wikipedia's entry on Mass In Special Relativity), then how is it possible to have mass as a dimension of energy? E = E * C^2 would create a positive feedback loop.

    Apologies for the off-topic interlude.
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    I could be mistaken, but Einstein's -first- theory was the Special Theory of Relativity. Make sure you the General Theory of Relativity. They differ on this exact topic. As for your question, what is "E."

    Once again, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AND YOU KNOW IT. I've been studying indepentently, riding the coattails of science for last few years.

    Now, what Einstein realized was "e." Energy. That mass was created of it. "E" is the answer to "how much energy does it take to make this matter?". The answer being "E=MC2", Energy is what his discovery was. A totally limitless, untapped, amazingly powerful source of energy. Since the equation, we know how much energy we'll get out of a atomic bomb, with absolute precision, when before hand we were totally unaware that there was any energy in matter at all.

    Sorry to deviate so much. Hope it helped though.

    Edit - To answer your second question "E = E C 2" is wrong. Mass is made of super condensed energy. Before this equation, energy was one school of thought, Mass was another, and they were thought about as two totally separate entities. This is what bridged the gap. When mass in converted to energy, at the current time, we are unable to convert it back, and the matter portion is lost, but does still exist as energy. Radiation is the loss of this energy, and all natural occuring half life decays are so slow, only recently have we been able to detect it. Millions and Million of years time (40+)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiar
    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
    Quote Originally Posted by madmonk
    The Holographic Universe - Beyond Matter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ic0MmHKCk

    Enjoy!
    I got to where they said photons and turned it off. If they are not up to batting down a retarded phony particle like the photon, they should just give it up.


    Sincerely,


    William McCormick

    Don't know what your problem is. Photons are real. Ever heard of 'photon emission' ? Ever heard of the 'atom bomb' ? That's kinda what happens in the splitting of an atom. When you split it, oh, let's assume we use a Uranium atom for this bomb, shall we?

    We split a Uranium-232 atom down the middle (Or the perceived middle of the atom--don't go MCCORMICKMAN mode on me now, it's a figure of speech) and we get, guess what? A boom. A big boom. You know why? The atom released a lot of energy because of E(energy)=M(mass of atom)C^2(the speed of light squared, 300,000 km/s/s). As such, what happened to the atom? Because of the Law of Conservation of Mass, obviously it didn't 'go boom' with the bomb--something happened to it.

    But what?

    It was split. It's become two NEW atoms now. Those split and continue the process.

    Eventually, you run out of protons, neutrons, and electrons.

    But even with the splitting--nothing would happen. They would just become new atoms--why else can atoms so calmly continue through half-lifes into a stable state? Because they don't emit photons.

    Photon = the single protons and neutrons that are emitted off of that Uranium-232 atom. The proton will quickly find a 'lazy electron' from the cloud of the bomb, and bond to form a stable Hydrogen atom. But what about the neutron? Once again, it can't simply vanish into thin air. And it has a definite weight of 1 AMU (atomic mass unit). So where does it go?

    It enflames itself when it bonds and disapparates with the air around it, due to the massive amounts of energy released. E=MC^2. That's your boom. Uranium-232 atoms splitting down continuously until they form simple atoms with atomic numbers less than or equal to Fluorine. The neutrons, no longer needed for most of these elements to be made stable, combust when exposed to the air and energy present in the reactions.

    *Takes a bow*
    That is what you were told happens, by "people" that also stated that they would never let the secret of the bomb out. At the same time they released all kinds of information about the radio active bomb. Kind of a paradox you are battling there.

    The only problem is that the secret they promised to keep from you, against American policy of no secrets in science, is also the basis of the atom and all understanding of electricity and the Universe. I guess a small price to pay for slavery through ignorance. Ha-ha.

    Meanwhile the individuals that can make things much better then any radioactive bomb, say there are no photons. Only electron subatomic particles. Particles of electricity. As it was originally dating back to Benjamin Franklin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the great Gizmo
    I could be mistaken, but Einstein's -first- theory was the Special Theory of Relativity. Make sure you the General Theory of Relativity. They differ on this exact topic. As for your question, what is "E."

    Once again, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AND YOU KNOW IT. I've been studying indepentently, riding the coattails of science for last few years.

    Now, what Einstein realized was "e." Energy. That mass was created of it. "E" is the answer to "how much energy does it take to make this matter?". The answer being "E=MC2", Energy is what his discovery was. A totally limitless, untapped, amazingly powerful source of energy. Since the equation, we know how much energy we'll get out of a atomic bomb, with absolute precision, when before hand we were totally unaware that there was any energy in matter at all.

    Sorry to deviate so much. Hope it helped though.

    Edit - To answer your second question "E = E C 2" is wrong. Mass is made of super condensed energy. Before this equation, energy was one school of thought, Mass was another, and they were thought about as two totally separate entities. This is what bridged the gap. When mass in converted to energy, at the current time, we are unable to convert it back, and the matter portion is lost, but does still exist as energy. Radiation is the loss of this energy, and all natural occuring half life decays are so slow, only recently have we been able to detect it. Millions and Million of years time (40+)
    There is no energy/velocity in a bomb. The bomb blocks ambient radiation in all directions simultaneously, and has to be removed to save the Universe from total destruction. The energy is just the bomb raising in voltage enough to block ambient radiation a bit. A nuclear bomb is just a toy compared to weapons that are designed to use ambient radiation.

    http://www.Rockwelder.com/Explosives/blast2.wmv

    That is a bag of gas filled with two gases, three elements. It is lighter then air. It is well under one cubic foot of gas.

    I have seen the shock wave from that size bag effect the surface of the water a quarter mile away.

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