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  1. #1 LHC and the mysterious Higgs 
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    To me it seems that if we don't find the Higgs Boson (even though I figure we likely will) it would almost be an even greater leap in physics/science.

    My reasoning is simple. If we (humanity) have managed to accomplish all we have using an incorrect model. (As far as I understand the standard model runs into significant problems if the higgs doesn’t exist?) Then we are much more likely to really start "getting it" after realizing that we are wrong and taking a new approach.

    On the other hand, let me ask someone smarter than me. What is the next step, lets say we find the higgs, (please excuse my ignorance) but what are the practical applications of this? I haven’t heard anyone discuss it but there must be many.

    I'm pretty much just rambling but would appreciate any comments.


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    It could turn out to be like the luminiferous ether. Believing in it will have at least helped us understand what we were looking at. If there isn't a bosun, then I bet the models are still going to bear out by some other, perhaps more mysterious means.

    It would be really interesting, though.


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    PS: Anyone who thinks the plane will not take off, please reframe from posting a response to my question.
    lol....I agree.

    What do you mean smarter? You mean more knowledgeable! Don't confuse the two.

    If we find it, many things could be done.

    1. Deactivate it within a certain perimeter in order to do things like make a 90 degree turn at 15,000 M/s without any harm done; survive car crashes.

    2. Create a controlled emission and manipulation of it and eliminate the need for thrust based Newtonian transportation.

    3. PARTY LIKE A M*%^#^$!!!!R FOR FINDING IT.

    4. Give anything we want an infinite amount of mass....to create black holes n'shit.

    5. We could probably even use it to create new composite materials, and eliminate gravity within an area to do experiments that require zero G.
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

    "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence"

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    Lol, imagine that - "Instant weightloss" by Higgs beauty Inc

    1. That would be interesting - imagine a the next generation of massless planes...

    2. Fuel efficiency for such transport might skyrocket yeah? If we could theoretically make it weight less, then again I guess it would take energy to accomplish that.

    3. Deff agree.

    4. Play a nasty trick on someone? lol (Blackhole in a packet. Coming to a toystore near u!)

    5. I wonder how long it might take for such advances to occur?

    I agree with kojax though, in that the model even if shown to be incorrect will obviously be on the right track. Unless we REALLY missed something.

    Which again would be very interesting...
    "THE ULTIMATE MEASURE OF A MAN IS NOT WHERE HE STANDS IN MOMENTS OF COMFORT
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