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  1. #1 LHC: Higgs or no Higgs, that is the Question 
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

    The Large Hadron Collider goes into operation this May! I think all my particle physics professors were bouncing off the walls for this and the university I am at, the University of British Columbia, which is also building something for the LHC in the TRIUMF Nuclear lab.

    So apparently, according to my professor, the LHC is the ultimate collider: we either find the Higgs, proving that Standard Model is darn right and leave everything to the theorists (whom all the experimental physicists I've met roll their eyes when alluding to), or prove that there is no Higgs and the Standard Model is wrong and start all over again.

    So what do you think? Is experimental physics (specifically particle) going to end here? I mean, once the Standard Model is proven right, then most things can be proven, and the universities/governments would also be unlikely to fund for a larger collider than LHC, unless it's the upgrade. What is the Standard Model is WRONG? What will happen to physics?


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    I didn't think it would be ready before 2009

    What happens if we're right then? Do we disprove God? If we're wrong though we'll probably be disappointed, then we build something even larger and create a huge black hole and kill ourselves.


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    If we find out what makes mass, we can take it away. Accelerate to 88mph! Wait, the speedometer is in kilometres whats the figure out to?

    I have a better idea lets just build a time machine .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obviously
    I didn't think it would be ready before 2009

    What happens if we're right then? Do we disprove God? If we're wrong though we'll probably be disappointed, then we build something even larger and create a huge black hole and kill ourselves.
    The Higgs boson has actually been called the 'God particle' because it's so significant, so apparently it proves the existence of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemboy
    Quote Originally Posted by Obviously
    I didn't think it would be ready before 2009

    What happens if we're right then? Do we disprove God? If we're wrong though we'll probably be disappointed, then we build something even larger and create a huge black hole and kill ourselves.
    The Higgs boson has actually been called the 'God particle' because it's so significant, so apparently it proves the existence of God.
    How on Earth will it prove or disprove Him?
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    I guess ChemBoy forgot the [irony][/irony] tags
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemboy
    The Higgs boson has actually been called the 'God particle' because it's so significant, so apparently it proves the existence of God.
    Haha^^ True
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    Oh, now I get it .
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    The discovery of the Higgs boson will just reveal even more mystery to us; that is why Science > Religion, because with religion, all you have to say is, "WELL ITS WRITTEN IN A BOOK", and, "SO MANY PEOPLE SAW HIM", and other nonsensical things. But with science, not only can you objectively come to conclusions, but also, the discoveries are limitless! The same goes for philosophy.

    Also, no science will ever (likely) disprove the existence of a god, due to this, "If a god exists, then why would it allow us, its' creations, to gain knowledge powerful enough to disprove its' existence". I think there is a .01% chance due to this.

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