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  1. #1 Disregard E=MC^2 ? 
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    I found this link where Einstein is refuted:

    http://www.papimi.gr/kmc2eng.htm

    What do you think of it ?
    Can you point out some fallacies perpetrated or not ?

    Not sure how long it's been up.


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    I'm not reading that crap; summarise it in one word.

    From the first example of it being wrong I have seen he is trying to find the energy (hence mass) of a photon, it doesn't work for him because a photon has no mass and he is trying a long winded way of solving his problem. There is whats called the momenergy formula that disproves what he says about
    E =mc^2 is wrong on that bit.


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    " In modern physics light is considered to consist of photons. The photons are simultaneously considered as particles with mass, energy and momentum, and as well as waves with wavelength, frequency and velocity."

    There's part of the problem.
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    That's two greeks trying to disprove einstein since i've joined. What did einstein ever do to greeks? He's not even persian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TvEye
    That's two greeks trying to disprove einstein since i've joined. What did einstein ever do to greeks? He's not even persian.
    I guess Greece wants to get back into the mainstream of science.
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    Hold your horses.
    I did n't say I back the stuff.
    My nuclear Physics is rusty.

    W.r. to Greece you should know that one of Einstein's fellow workers was Constantine Karatheodory who was Greek, born in Alexandria.

    I 'd like to know the likely source of fallacy in the attempt to disprove Einstein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acadu
    Hold your horses.
    I did n't say I back the stuff.
    My nuclear Physics is rusty.

    W.r. to Greece you should know that one of Einstein's fellow workers was Constantine Karatheodory who was Greek, born in Alexandria.

    I 'd like to know the likely source of fallacy in the attempt to disprove Einstein.
    Yea but Einstein wasn't Greek was he? And I've never heard of the guy you mentioned. What did he do exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    Yea but Einstein wasn't Greek was he?
    ...relevance?

    Caratheodory is well known in mathematics. He proved some important results in measure theory and complex analysis. Wikipedia states that he and Einstein corresponded and suggests that the mathematical aspects of Einstein's theories relied on Caratheodory's results. Given this fact and my knowledge of his results in mathematics, I'd say he's a pretty important guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serpicojr
    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    Yea but Einstein wasn't Greek was he?
    ...relevance?

    Caratheodory is well known in mathematics. He proved some important results in measure theory and complex analysis. Wikipedia states that he and Einstein corresponded and suggests that the mathematical aspects of Einstein's theories relied on Caratheodory's results. Given this fact and my knowledge of his results in mathematics, I'd say he's a pretty important guy.
    Well thanks for increasing my IQ.
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    Despite my superhuman powers, I don't think I'm capable of such a great feat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serpicojr
    Despite my superhuman powers, I don't think I'm capable of such a great feat.
    I'll try and take that as a compliment due from a joke.

    I have the unique ability of being crap at something when I start-but never fail at competence after, I become smarter and smarter and smarter and smarter. My intelligence on something never reaches an ultimate level; it goes on and on and on. One day I hope to have an IQ of 300. In the past year my IQ has jumped 20 odd points.
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    Is Marilyn vos Savant your idol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by serpicojr
    Is Marilyn vos Savant your idol?
    No.
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    Thats Funny, I always heard that light has mass and takes up space, even though it is very miniscule, otherwise, how would solar sails work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNatendo
    Thats Funny, I always heard that light has mass and takes up space, even though it is very miniscule, otherwise, how would solar sails work?
    Light has energy and therfore has the equivalent energy as of course given with E = mc^2. It is called 'momenergy'.
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    I think einsteins formula is a mistake too. I point more on E=m 4 several reasons. Erste is that if you maintain the concept of "equal" in this =,you can appreciate that if you rotate the letter "m" of 90° conterclockwise the formula assume this form E=E,and certantly this is true.

    I think c^2 has no sense in that formula.
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    http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...e-e-mc-2-means

    Edit: BTW, E=m is true if you use the right units.
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