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    I am very interested in Time, yes so interested that it has to have a capital letter, and I was wondering what philosophical ideas and beliefs that all of you out there think it is, I don't mean a text book answer about it being a geometrical conjunction between itself and space interlinked as the spacetime continuum, I mean what you REALLY think it is and why it is there. Your response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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    Time is cause and effect over and over agian, at least that how I veiw time but its there because something happened and things are still happening. If nothing happened, nothing! would time still pass my answer would be no.


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    I view time as the property which governs mass.For e.g everything we do like walking,sleeping,running ,eatting and so on is due to time and it has always caused changes.Time passes and changes everything.Time let these changes happen.In this case time has governed the masses. Moreover i believe time travel is not possible because it means Mass governing time and according to my view point it does not match.
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    The below is a link to my topic. I should have replied in here, but didn't see it til now. Oh, and to sum it up, I don't think time "exists".

    http://www.thescienceforum.com/Yet-a...%29.-8221t.php
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    Time has one real dimension, the NOW, and two false dimensions, the BEFORE and AFTER.

    Time travels in a circle swirling into the AFTER away from the BEFORE.

    Think of time like a caduceus: the two snakes representing the false time paradigms of BEFORE and AFTER, and the sword representing the real time paradigm, the NOW.

    Sounds "out there", but I have some equations that actually prove time is in fact a circular process in regard to 3 dimensional space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streamSystems
    Time has one real dimension, the NOW, and two false dimensions, the BEFORE and AFTER.

    Time travels in a circle swirling into the AFTER away from the BEFORE.

    Think of time like a caduceus: the two snakes representing the false time paradigms of BEFORE and AFTER, and the sword representing the real time paradigm, the NOW.

    Sounds "out there", but I have some equations that actually prove time is in fact a circular process in regard to 3 dimensional space.
    Well, I'd have to say that it isn't something I've heard of before. I find math is really a tool to get in close proximity with the truth, but the truth is never acquired. But, I'm more similar to old greek thinkers than todays. I just can't understand why the universe would go through such an elaborate process to achieve the same thing as time not existing at all.

    Also, time being circular is dependant on it's referance to past and future occurances. This would be impossible to occur (it would seem to me) if time is simply present as a dimension in "now".

    Perhaps I missed something...
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    perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streamSystems
    perhaps.
    perhaps what? I would like to know what it is I missed. You would if I suggested you lacked an understanding, but didn't clear up the cloud of vaguries. Anyone diserves that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FractalMind
    Quote Originally Posted by streamSystems
    perhaps.
    perhaps what? I would like to know what it is I missed. You would if I suggested you lacked an understanding, but didn't clear up the cloud of vaguries. Anyone diserves that much.
    Perhaps you missed that time can be circular if there exists a tendancy of it to move towards a future time dimension away from a past time dimension, as though the line of time gravitates inwards to a future time away from an outwards past time (draw the idea in your mind)...........according to equations of a circle, as derived from a theory of space-time that allows such virtual dimensions of time to exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streamSystems
    Quote Originally Posted by FractalMind
    Quote Originally Posted by streamSystems
    perhaps.
    perhaps what? I would like to know what it is I missed. You would if I suggested you lacked an understanding, but didn't clear up the cloud of vaguries. Anyone diserves that much.
    Perhaps you missed that time can be circular if there exists a tendancy of it to move towards a future time dimension away from a past time dimension, as though the line of time gravitates inwards to a future time away from an outwards past time (draw the idea in your mind)...........according to equations of a circle, as derived from a theory of space-time that allows such virtual dimensions of time to exist.
    Whoa, you lost me. I read some of your theory (not much yet) and it has not yet mentioned what forces the dimension of time away from "the past" time. Also, what would make it move in a circular motion? is it that you believe time's "past" existance drags against the "future"? If such a vortex occured, what would cause them to loop? Wouldn't the future simply spiral way from its less... energetic... past and never reintersect?
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    OK.

    We can be reassured that the equations for a circle are accurate.

    The hypothesis presented was in using two new dimensions of time.

    The aim was to accompany that hypothesis, to prove it, if you will, with valid equations.

    That was achieved.

    Why there exists a past and a future, leave that for the philosophers. I am just providing evidence that there is a past and future in regard to time.
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