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    (Fictional) As a time travelling historian I was sent back in time to the medieval times by my department of research based at Oxford University. I came across a couple of estranged villagers who were bedazelled by the fact that I had came from nowhere with a bright light surrounding me. The villagers thought I was an angel and other villagers, once this spread around thought I was a person who practised the dark arts, obviously I was set for being burned, however these circumstances were anticipated by Oxford and they gave me a laser cutting device proir to going back in time, as of this I was able to escape the dungeon of the castle I was imprisoned in. My luck ran out though as I was faced with a huge locked gate with no way through, suddenly I heard a voice from outside the dungeon barred window; it was me! Myself passed me a key to open the door, I unlocked it and carried on carefree but was eventually chased by the guardsmen, my time device began fluctuating for some reason and I was sent back in time about 3 minutes ago, there were no guards around anymore. I noticed I was outside the dungeon barred window and saw myself stuck at the gate like I was, so I shouted to myself and gave myself the key I had been given. Afterwards another me showed up, ran his hand over the key and a number appeared-1725, the future me then left after saying thanks, I then escaped and went back to the future.

    Here is the paradox, if i was given a key to open the door and I gave the key away also, that would mean that that loop would carry on, but for how long?

    Three years later I decided to go back to the moment I was outside the castle and perfrom a carbon dating analysis, I read the number, it said 1728 years. I said thanks to my past self and returned to the future.

    I have a solution to this paradox, (which isn't really a paradox in my opinion), but I would like to know any solutions and ideas of the concepts put forward in this paradox that anyone has to offer. I will explain the solution soon after I have had a few replies.

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    Well, I think you would have had to return to your present time in order to go back once again and help yourself. When you're in the past there is no you in your original time to go back. So, if the first you couldn't get through the locked gate there would be no you in your original time to go back and help yourself. Just my thoughts on it.


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    it would continue, considering the medieval period ,for 3 minutes.for present day it would be 3yrs
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    alternate universes?

    you seize existing in one universe, and appear in another?
    when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth
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    The answer is that time for the key continues at the same rate even though it replays the same 5 minutes over and over, until one day it degrades and no longer works. So the question is, what happens when the key wears out and how did the system start in the first place?
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    Well there's no original appearance for the key. It's appearance out of nowhere would be a self contradictory event.

    I'm not sure what you mean about carbon dating? The numbers 1725 and 1728 also are kind of unclear.

    The number 1725 just appears when your future self runs his hand over the key? What's that supposed to tell me? Is it a counter, to count how many times the loop happened?
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    It read 1725 years old when he was back in the past, but when he went back 3 years later to date it, it said 1728 years old. It means that time carries on for that key even if that even happenned years ago. Time does not stand still behind or infront of our time, time always moves.
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