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    If neutrino's have a positive mass then they should be affected by gravity the same way which we are, and therefore should find their resting place at the centre of the earth, yes ?

    But this apparenlty doesnt happen, can anyone say why ?


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    Cause they travel at C(1-10^-a big number) often. This is thanks to their increadibly tiny mass. If they were to move slower than escape velocity of a planet they would be caught. And they allways are when they reach a blackhole


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    Do they really travel through all matter? Wow, magic.

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    yes they travel through all matter;

    just like a fly travelling through a forrest. (kind of)
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    Quote Originally Posted by leohopkins
    yes they travel through all matter;

    just like a fly travelling through a forrest. (kind of)
    yepp but they once in a while hit down a tree
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    Hello!

    Do they have got some internal steering or there like? Like the fly, to get around any objects?

    Still, sounds magic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Miller
    Hello!

    Do they have got some internal steering or there like? Like the fly, to get around any objects?

    Still, sounds magic!

    Steve.
    of course not. things dont work like that.

    they are just not willing to interact with atoms and other particles so they just pass right throu them
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    Whuu, its still much better than a disguised warbird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Miller
    Whuu, its still much better than a disguised warbird.

    Steve ; )
    just to clearify things
    particles can go right throu each other if they dont interact with each other since a particle have no specefic shape nor a specefic position
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    Zelos,

    sure they can, as long as they don't get in contact to each other in some way. As there was contact
    there was friction, there was heat coming off... things like that. Its being an issue about inertia as
    well.

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    Sorry, my fault!

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    Zelos,

    sure the can, as long as they don't get in contact to each other in some way. As there was contact
    there was friction, there was heat coming off... things like that. Its being an issue about inertia as
    well.

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    Steve we don't yet fully understand sub-atomic interactions though there is a lot of experimental evidence to provide a framework so if you like we know many of the rules but that's as far as it goes. Now think of this, there are things which can exist in the same space at the same time such as an electric field, a magnetic field, gravity, and a beam of light, they all just pass through as if none of the others exist [ignoring the slight effect of gravity on the light].
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    Hello Megabrain!

    I wish you to have a nice Sunday! Sure, I agree with you here as well, and I'm aware of the fact you don't do.

    I have tried to express this through my post either. If I could be more correct, if you don't mind, we don't have
    come to kind of a stop here scientifically to know if these interactions do take place at all, or, at least, were
    not distinguished enough carrying out research on mass (particle ) interactions directly.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weakly_...ssive_particle

    The article says not just the interaction of particles (masses ) was hypothetical, but the particles interacting
    themselves!

    Hereof surely resulted the arguing about the ether, as I think. Subatomic particles would have to be this ether
    and electrons would have been, previously, one kind of subatomic particles, I assume furthermore.

    I want to say research and out of of the research resulting knowledge is today not 'below' of the level anatomist's
    have got to.

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    - sentence should read" I do wish you a nice Saturday!" Sunday was today.
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    There might be particles that have force that carries momentum that does not have the same frequency as normal matter, hence through the rule of energy transfer needing to be at the same frequency, we would never notice it. It is very possible that a particle with twice the charge as normal electrons would not interact with normal matter, it is possible that particles carying gravitons at the wrong frequency would not interact with normal matter, etc.
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    Particles momentum equal a frequency - was new to me!

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    p = hf/c

    Actually that should be the force's momentum equal a frequency. Atleast that was what I wanted to say.
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    Sure.
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    sure they can, as long as they don't get in contact to each other in some way. As there was contact
    there was friction, there was heat coming off... things like that. Its being an issue about inertia as
    well.
    they can be on a direct collision course and hit each other they would still pass right throu each other since they dont have any specefic shape, bounds or anything
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    Since force travel at the speed of light, it should to have photon frequency
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