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  1. #1 Does the temperature of space help us learn more about dark matter? 
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    What is dark matter? Does it exists? What are the forces on it? Does it have a simple particle ? Is it just emptiness? is it a vacuum?


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    Well i need ur opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    Well i need ur opinions
    Have you looked up the topic? Looked up WIMP's in the hypothesis?
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    Well .... Let me ask the question in the simplest way. how the f... Do you imagine it? That is your opinion. And for you it better be science because for me i understand what i learn and i create my opinion about that. How do you imagine it out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    Well .... Let me ask the question in the simplest way. how the f... Do you imagine it?
    I don't imagine it.

    That is your opinion.
    No it's not.

    And for you it better be science because for me i understand what i learn and i create my opinion about that.
    Yet, as you have shown: you don't particularly learn, you don't understand and your opinion remains just that - an opinion.

    How do you imagine it out there
    Why would I need to imagine it?
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    Im sorry to say but you are a non creative human being. U have no imagination and you ask your self why to imagine. Imagine if you can imagine it. You would be smarter. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    Well .... Let me ask the question in the simplest way. how the f... Do you imagine it? That is your opinion. And for you it better be science because for me i understand what i learn and i create my opinion about that. How do you imagine it out there
    As we observe our galaxy and other galaxies, there is not enough mass to account for the galaxy to retain cohesion.

    At such sizes in space, gravity is the overwhelming force.

    But for the angular momentum of a galaxy, the material within it should be flung out into space. There is not enough observed matter to account for enough gravity to hold it all together.
    By estimates, the Milky Way Galaxy may be 80% dark matter. That is how much of a discrepancy we are talking about here.
    Since everything else about the observations and calculations has tested as accurate (For now, but it is possible that a new discovery can change that at a later date), the remaining option was an unseen matter that has mass, but does not interact with light except very weakly.
    WIMP- Weakly Interacting Particles were hypothesized as this matter.
    This is Dark Matter. Currently, it is a hypothesis, but there is some indirect observation of it- it is not yet verified.
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    thnx for the reply. And whats between galaxies? Is there dark matter too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    Im sorry to say but you are a non creative human being.
    Which just shows that you have no idea.
    My profession relies on my creativity.

    U have no imagination
    Also wrong.

    and you ask your self why to imagine. Imagine if you can imagine it.
    Why would I need to?
    Do I need to "imagine" what "2" looks like when I'm adding 2 & 3?

    You would be smarter. :/
    Oh, fail again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    thnx for the reply. And whats between galaxies? Is there dark matter too?
    Possibly, but I certainly don't know. I would speculate off hand that there would be little of it between.
    We would see lensing effect in a void if there was significant amounts and that would get attention.
    A massive particle over the course of 13 odd billion years would be more likely to be swept up in the gravity wells of massive clusters.
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    I am talking about that in between. Because i think that that is the essence of space. That is the universe itself .galaxies are to small to fill the universe
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    I am talking about that in between. Because i think that that is the essence of space. That is the universe itself .galaxies are to small to fill the universe
    That is a matter of perspective. I see no relevance in it. Without the galaxies, space would be totally flat and useless, anyway.
    You are in one. Surviving nicely.
    Yes, what is in between should be studied and is studied as best we are currently able. But it is the entirety that will get all mankinds attention. Some may choose to study different aspects than others.
    Some may feel that QM will reveal the most knowledge. Others, may think it is cosmology that will provide the most.
    Either way, you will have mankind looking at both aspects. One simply cannot support any claim that one field of study is more pressing than the other, right now. Not without a looming asteroid the size of Alaska headed straight for the middle of the Atlantic ocean.
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    I like that part becouse that is the table that we stand on. Its like more filosofy but dark matter i think will answer many questions. If we find the limits of the universe for example, a new question will come. Where does the universe stand?... And after that would be something other in between and like in infinity these zoom out of the reality. I like to think in that way i dont know why...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    I like to think in that way i dont know why...
    I think most of us do. But we are limited by what we can do- for now.
    It is very important to remember our limitations. Yes, we can speculate. But at the end of the day, we must come back to reality and do the hard work for those who follow us to stand on. We must do it well- do it right, lest it will crumble beneath future generations feet when they try to carry on our work.
    This means that while it's a bit of fun to speculate about what is beyond the Universe, we must also be responsible with our speculations. We must refer back to our models of reality constantly. We must test them constantly.

    This is the Scientific Method. And the method is what we use after the dreaming, imagining and speculating- We put it to the test. To remove speculative bias, over enthusiasm of assumptions or being too reliant on a guess.
    If it fails- there's a trash can. Use it. Without hesitation.
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    ... The trash can needs to have a restore button anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    ... The trash can needs to have a restore button anyway
    On rare occasions, yes, things do manage to crawl back out of the can. But that usually only happens when some empirical evidence sheds new light on the canned hypothesis.
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    I get the distinct impression that Trash will be his milieu... (that's inside information, not assumption).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    ... The trash can needs to have a restore button anyway
    Why?
    Do you think you've found something that deserves restoring?
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    No but what if somebody someday?
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    Yea in the future of 3013 a 1969 ford mustang is a great thing from the trash can
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokohila View Post
    Yea in the future of 3013 a 1969 ford mustang is a great thing from the trash can
    Nah. The Mega-nanoreplicator will spin you one in a minute. Everyone will have several.
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