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    I'm having a hard time understanding the multiverse theory. I thought I read some time ago, that the universe as we know it is like two plates moving away from each other, or expanding, set in motion by the big bang...and that they eventually come back together, singularity, and then big bang again..and so on.

    Now when I look up information on it, I see no mention of that part. Just dimensions.

    I'm wondering if this "expansion" and eventual "collapse" happen at different momentums, creating differences in physics and time. I would think the speed at which the plates move apart and come back together would have an impact on the vacuum within it. Is that true?

    Does any of that even make sense? Or did I just dream all this...?


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    Hi ParanoiA,
    I've watched your post go stale over the past few days. I wish I could help you but this is not really my cup of tea.

    Might I suggest watching some documentaries on the subject. Brian Greene's documentary "The Elegant Universe" comes to mind....

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    Probably because it's all pure conjecture, One man's shrinking universe is another mans sinking ship....

    You'll probably need to go back to the exact source. Latest theory is simply that we do not know what happened 'before' during or slightly after the 'big bang' anuthing else you hear is not accepted by most cosmologists.

    ANd welcome to the forum, have a nice-stay....
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    the dimensions you mention actually come from the superstring theory and how sub matter is made up of like nine dimensions (mathematically speaking) the disks and the big bang I remember something about it but I don't think it had anything to do with a parallel universe I think that had something to do with special relativity and the long discussion of how we would see things at the speed of light vs normal motion (I could be wrong about the second part) but the multi dimensional universe is generally a superstring topic it's the only way our universe fits together mathematically (it deals with manifolds and such.......thats a doozy)
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    Welcome to the forum Beky. I was a little curious. Are you familiar with the concepts of sentence structure and punctuation?

    I only ask since run on sentences that lack any sort of punctuation and do not really pause for breath or if they do so do it in an unapprent manner so that the reader is left high and dry and adrift and not really too sure where he is or where the writer is going can at the end of the day be extremely difficult to read and a real pain in the ass to understand which is why it might be helpful if you were to give the old punctuation and grammatical structure something of a go.

    Anyway, regardless of how you choose to treat my suggestion, welcome again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beky
    the dimensions you mention actually come from the superstring theory and how sub matter is made up of like nine dimensions (mathematically speaking) the disks and the big bang I remember something about it but I don't think it had anything to do with a parallel universe I think that had something to do with special relativity and the long discussion of how we would see things at the speed of light vs normal motion (I could be wrong about the second part) but the multi dimensional universe is generally a superstring topic it's the only way our universe fits together mathematically (it deals with manifolds and such.......thats a doozy)
    I guess I need to read more on this. It's interesting that the number of dimensions is 9, and that's the number I needed for this story.

    Thanks for the reply. Would you be interested in being a subject matter expert? I just need somebody smart about general science enough to bounce ideas off of from time to time.
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    The 9 is generally accepted as the number but it may be 10 honestly nobody has completed a solid enough model. String Theory is just another attempt at a Grand Unified Theory which to date no one has accomplished. I would love to help you anyway I can. I dont have a computer though and it's rare for me to be online. I'm using public computers at the library and my limit is an hour a day which is why I often don't pay attention to spelling and grammar etc. I'll send you my EMail if you seriously have a question chances are I can answer it.
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    One important part mentioned about this theory was even the leading inventors of the theory accept that having these large 'brains' or membrains that you refer to as plates, gets them no futher along in explaining the mystery. Whether these plates exist or not, you end up circling around to the same mystery and the same problem.

    That is, if you explain the universe created by plates the problem is only re-directed to the plates, where did they come from? (the same way they ask the universe) so even though this complicated multi dimensional math strives forward with these paradox's and problems in clear view, it appears that there is no great headway being made into understanding the begginning. However most everyone agrees this new form of complicated mathamatics will not be waisted and will surely have useful applications.

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    Please permit me to add some things related to singularity.

    Singularity
    At the center of the black hole, well inside the event horizon, general relativity predicts a singularity, a place where the curvature of spacetime becomes infinite and gravitational forces become infinitely strong.

    It is expected that future refinements or generalisations of general relativity (in particular quantum gravity) will change what is thought about the nature of black hole interiors. Most theorists interpret the mathematical singularity of the equations as indicating that the current theory is not complete, and that new phenomena must come into play as one approaches the singularity.

    The cosmic censorship hypothesis asserts that there are no naked singularities in general relativity. This hypothesis is that every singularity is hidden behind an event horizon and cannot be probed. Whether this hypothesis is true remains an active area of theoretical research.

    The prediction of a place where the curvature of spacetime becomes infinite and gravitational forces become infinitely strong is to suggest many things.

    Such as;
    In the place of this singularity time would no longer exist. The material or reference frame that is located in this place would be where time passes at an infinite rate around them in observation, thus saying that the universe is infact infinite. For would not a paradox form if there was a place where all time has passed instantly while also to say the universe is not an infinite entity?

    Secondly, It is in relativity that it requires an infinite force in order to accelerate matter to the speed of light "C" and beyond. So if such a force resides within a black hole there is opportunity to accelerate matter beyond the speed of light and develope infinite mass, space contraction, and time dialation.

    With this consideration, how is a black hole able to be sent into accelertion. Black holes have been observed merging together and also streaming about galaxies and space as rogue black holes. Should it be possible to accelerate a black hole that has the opportunity to contain infinite mass? and what exactly kind of results do we get when we calculate two sources of infinite mass and infinite force merging together? Is that even mathamatically possible to work out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkain101
    One important part mentioned about this theory was even the leading inventors of the theory accept that having these large 'brains' or membrains that you refer to as plates, gets them no futher along in explaining the mystery. Whether these plates exist or not, you end up circling around to the same mystery and the same problem.

    That is, if you explain the universe created by plates the problem is only re-directed to the plates, where did they come from? (the same way they ask the universe) so even though this complicated multi dimensional math strives forward with these paradox's and problems in clear view, it appears that there is no great headway being made into understanding the begginning. However most everyone agrees this new form of complicated mathamatics will not be waisted and will surely have useful applications.
    Well, what I'm trying to work out is a setting for physics to be changed slightly. I was under the impression that the physics were unpredictable once these branes get close to singularity. I was hoping to generate a fictional setting during this time. Hoping that time would be stretched to the observers within the vacuum.

    But I obviously know nothing about all of this. This all might happen in a matter of seconds for all I know. So, I don't know how realistic it would be to imagine life being around during this critical time, or having any time to enjoy the change in physics while the branes close in for the big crunch.

    By the way, I enjoyed your additions to singularity. Hard to understand, but I keep re-reading it.
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