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    Is it possible to store electrons or electricity in a gas for later use? If so or if not why? If so what would it take to extract the current and put it to use?


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    are you even sure of what you asking? electron inside gas and not a gas container....even electricity,electricity means charge(electrons),charge means current(i),and this implies heat....its an explosion not storage......get your question well please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peezy57 View Post
    Is it possible to store electrons or electricity in a gas for later use? If so or if not why? If so what would it take to extract the current and put it to use?
    Your question is ill-formed, but I'll take a run at it. What you mean, I presume, is that you are asking if it is possible to store electrical energy for later use. The answer to that is yes. There are devices called capacitors whose function is to do precisely that. A capacitor is simply two conductors separated by an insulator. You pull some electrons off of one plate and put them on the other. That charge displacement constitutes potential energy (you have oppositely charged plates now, so there's a force between them; you can get work out of such an arrangement).

    Capacitors are used all the time for this purpose. So-called "supercapacitors" (google for it) are used in some electric vehicle regenerative braking systems, for instance.

    I don't have any idea why you refer to a gas. It's unclear what property of a gas you feel is relevant or useful. Perhaps you could post back with an explanation.
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    Batteries do this all the time.
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    the questioner do not know what he is asking,so there is no need asking ourself the question and answering it....to trash can say.
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    i would say they are asking whether you can have a gas battery. instead of chemical storage have gas storage. charge up a gas then use that for power.

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    don't know if fuel cells fit the bill.
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    here we go again! another version of this question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk421 View Post
    What you mean, I presume, is that you are asking if it is possible to store electrical energy for later use. The answer to that is yes. There are devices called capacitors whose function is to do precisely that. A capacitor is simply two conductors separated by an insulator.
    Much of the important early work on electricity relied on Leyden Jars to store electricity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrispen Evan View Post
    i would say they are asking whether you can have a gas battery. instead of chemical storage have gas storage. charge up a gas then use that for power.

    Fuel cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    don't know if fuel cells fit the bill.
    You hit this right on the head, this was what I was meaning thanks for the translating. Lol Sorry for the confusion I should have worded it a little differently. I will do better next time! Fuel cells though wasn't quite what I was looking for though as you said it didn't quite fit the bill for what I was looking for. But that't what my question meant sorry for not being clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peezy57 View Post
    Is it possible to store electrons or electricity in a gas for later use? If so or if not why? If so what would it take to extract the current and put it to use?
    NASA is currently investigating the gas (actually ionized gas, or plasma) of the outer Van Allen belt. Amongst other questions, they ask if it may be a variable reservoir of electrical energy, and if so, how this affects things such as weather and climate on Earth.

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    can you give a direct link...
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    Quote Originally Posted by merumario View Post
    can you give a direct link...
    Gladly! Happy reading!!

    The Radiation Belt Storm Probes - NASA Science

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0129150958.htm

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0413202850.htm

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0131143745.htm

    "To distinguish between a host of theories developed over the years on plasma movement in those near-Earth environs, RBSP scientists have designed a suite of instruments to answer three broad questions. Where do the extra energy and particles come from? Where do they disappear to, and what sends them on their way? How do these changes affect the rest of Earth's magnetic environment, the magnetosphere?"
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0717183418.htm

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