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    Okay i heard if you clash a white hole and a black hole it would bend time and send you in some time period futrue or past maybe even present i know it is impossible i would like to hear thoughts on this but i am wondering is the arrow of time so if you could bend it could that possibly send you into the past or future?


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    You'd have to give Roy Kerr a call. If I were able to do the calculations for time travel, I wouldn't be here right now.


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    Well it was only an idea i mean i am not surly the only one that has thinked of bending the arrow of time for timetravel.
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    Most definitely not. I've thought about that stuff, too. Only thing is, I couldn't give you any substantial math related to the concept. Like you, I'd like to hear from someone on here with more knowledge on the topic.
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    I think that white holes are only theoretical objects, and that they do not exist in real life. However, I do not know any of the math regarding the topic.
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    I agree wiht you guymilion they don't exsist there are 2 stories one goes like this white holes are on the other side of black holes and that the big bang was one massive white hole.
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    I'm going to take a quick quote from Wikipedia. (Not that I trust everything it's saying.)

    There are theories suggesting that white holes create new universes from matter originating in another universe's black hole.A more recently proposed view of black holes might be interpreted as shedding some light on the nature of classical white holes. Some researchers have proposed that when a black hole forms, a big bang occurs at the core, which creates a new universe that expands outside of the parent universe. See also Fecund universes.
    Here is an interesting article:
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ein-wormholes/
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    i think in order to truly understand "time" you need to understand that it is only linear in a physical perspective, ie. the fact that every textbook shows it as a "line" is decieving and gives us a biased point of view. as for black and white holes, black holes consume everything including matter and light, none of which escapes and you could potentially enter a black hole, white holes however cannot be entered, and matter and light can easily escape, essentially they are the opposite of a black hole, i think that if two ever did meet somewhere in the vastness of our universe they would simply either ying and yang, and repel one another, or the black hole would consume the white hole and the positive and negative side of the equation would then take "warped time and space" and flatten it out, or you would have one kick ass explosion in which all the matter the black hole had consumed would be re-distributed anew. i think the only way these "holes" could be used for time travel is if they gave access to other dimensions, that of which time would not be of the physical aspect.
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    I believe time travel is impossible, otherwise we would be seeing people from the future coming back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Man View Post
    I believe time travel is impossible, otherwise we would be seeing people from the future coming back!
    Hey you could well be right here, but just something to consider:

    Imagine for a moment the possibility that every action or decision we make creates other universe's where the opposite of our choice or action is played out. Now imagine how many other possible universes would have been generated by the time you arrived at the future point at which your time traveller was coming back from, the chances are very much against him originating from your starting universe is point one and point two is the possibility that the act of time travel it's self create's other universes for which the time traveller to travel backwards in time in, so they may never actually interact with us in this universe at all even if time travel becomes possible. But that's just one idea that is probabilly just as way off base as all the rest.

    I don't think we'll really know until it happens.
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    A quick though occurs, if time travel does indeed become possible in the future then if there are time travellers coming to our time from the future then they would surely have to ensure that they are not known about otherwise it could impact their own time. So we could be being visited by inconspicuous time travellers all the time and just not know about it!
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    I like the simpler explanation. As if we could travel trough time, we would have probably somewhere in the history of us, messed up our timeline so we would not exist. So.. We are living in a galaxy where time travel isn't impossible, it's just unattainable to all who will ever live in it. As every possibility of us ever reaching towards time travel has been locked, due to our total destruction.
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    What about space teleportation? That seems to be fine...
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    This all belongs in the speculations forum.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    A quick though occurs, if time travel does indeed become possible in the future then if there are time travellers coming to our time from the future then they would surely have to ensure that they are not known about otherwise it could impact their own time. So we could be being visited by inconspicuous time travellers all the time and just not know about it!
    You are too close to the truth. Look outside. Do you see that parked car? Not the black one. Just wait for the knock.
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    You know, if someone ever ventured to travel back in time and claim that he's from the future, he'll likely be found in the asylum.
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    ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat
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    Lol Strange, back in the science world you and I have the same point of view!
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    Doesn't relativity state that all objects follow their own arrow of time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    I guess we'll just have to wait until 2036, huh?
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    I don't think I have to worry too much about any time travellers around here, there are no war time memorabilia shops in the vicinity you see.
    Last edited by Ascended; August 24th, 2012 at 11:18 AM. Reason: was trying to quote my own post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Man View Post
    You know, if someone ever ventured to travel back in time and claim that he's from the future, he'll likely be found in the asylum.
    If someone coming back from the future was that stupid as to claim so, then they would likely deserve to be put in an asylum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    A quick though occurs, if time travel does indeed become possible in the future then if there are time travellers coming to our time from the future then they would surely have to ensure that they are not known about otherwise it could impact their own time. So we could be being visited by inconspicuous time travellers all the time and just not know about it!
    You are too close to the truth. Look outside. Do you see that parked car? Not the black one. Just wait for the knock.
    I don't think I have to worry too much about any time travellers around here, there are no war time memorabilia shops in the vicinity you see.
    Do they sell sports almanac's where you live, then watch it.. You might find firy tiretracks during a blackout..
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

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    Usually when you come back from the future, people does not believe you
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    And the past does not repeat exactly the same, and there are those who arrange the best on the top
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    I don't think I have to worry too much about any time travellers around here, there are no war time memorabilia shops in the vicinity you see.
    Do they sell sports almanac's where you live, then watch it.. You might find firy tiretracks during a blackout..

    My comment was a reference to the 1990's time travel comedy 'Goodnight Sweetheart'. TV classic.
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    Mine was based on back to the future.. Though people got mine.. ive never seen goodnight sweetheart..
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    Time travel backwards in time is not possible. Why, I am not going to tell you for I'd lose my job.
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