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  1. #1 Are sub-atomic particles made up from energy ? 
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    Sorry for my ignorance, but are sub-atomic particles made up from energy ? Which in turn builds atoms to form molecules ? Thus is matter built up from energy ? and What is energy ?


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    but are sub-atomic particles made up from energy
    Could say that
    Which in turn builds atoms to form molecules ?
    same
    ? Thus is matter built up from energy ?
    same
    and What is energy ?
    Matter is energy and energy is matter
    E=MC². the formula everybody knows


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    Quote Originally Posted by velladaniel
    Sorry for my ignorance, but are sub-atomic particles made up from energy ? Which in turn builds atoms to form molecules ? Thus is matter built up from energy ? and What is energy ?
    Welcome to the forum, have a nice-stay, I see you have already received a reply from Zelos.

    Your question is interesting, there is infact no real evidence one way or the other, there are only theories that partially fit. String theory is the one, I think it may be true as matter can be broken down into energy as in Einstein's e = mc^2. Whereas although some may say energy can be converted into matter, nobody has ever produced a lump of this that existed for mor than a few nano/micro?-seconds.

    So it's all up for grabs, there are theories but that is all at present.
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    Whereas although some may say energy can be converted into matter, nobody has ever produced a lump of this that existed for mor than a few nano/micro?-seconds.
    This is been observed. and doesn´t matter if its for a nano second. But the fact that light can be converted to a positron/electron pair shows that energy can be converted into matter
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    Whereas although some may say energy can be converted into matter, nobody has ever produced a lump of this that existed for mor than a few nano/micro?-seconds.
    This is been observed. and doesn´t matter if its for a nano second. But the fact that light can be converted to a positron/electron pair shows that energy can be converted into matter
    Then it's not matter, it may be 'temporary matter' or as I suspect more an illusion, but it certainly is NOT matter, just because it makes a few trails in a bubble chamber.
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    Then it's not matter, it may be 'temporary matter' or as I suspect more an illusion, but it certainly is NOT matter, just because it makes a few trails in a bubble chamber.
    temporary matter? illusion?
    its neither it is matter but it´s energy levels are to high under normal circumstances so it decays in varius ways to decrease the energy, wich often result in normal matter
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    Then it's not matter, it may be 'temporary matter' or as I suspect more an illusion, but it certainly is NOT matter, just because it makes a few trails in a bubble chamber.
    temporary matter? illusion?
    its neither it is matter but it´s energy levels are to high under normal circumstances so it decays in varius ways to decrease the energy, wich often result in normal matter
    LMAO!

    Matter is stable!

    Ok if it leaves a trace of 'normal matter' behind after the 'excess' energy has decayed, what atomic number is that residue matter?.
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    Matter is stable!
    matter is particles. Therefor all particles, no matter stabillity, is matter aslongest it has restmass is matter. and those particles has restmass. MASS. maybe in the 15th centry there were a differens but today something having MASS is MATTER

    what atomic number is that residue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    Matter is stable!
    matter is particles. Therefor all particles, no matter stabillity, is matter aslongest it has restmass is matter. and those particles has restmass. MASS. maybe in the 15th centry there were a differens but today something having MASS is MATTER

    what atomic number is that residue
    explain
    You have said that matter can be created from energy, I am simply asking what type of matter?

    As for that first paragraph - it makes no sense to me, I really do not understand it, or how someone with your unique ability to write such confusing post's can ever hope to be taken seriously. There ARE plenty of examples of your grammar being readable, this however is not one of them. If English is NOT your native language then feel free to continue the conversation in German, French, Russian, Dutch or Polish.
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    As for that first paragraph - it makes no sense to me, I really do not understand it, or how someone with your unique ability to write such confusing post's can ever hope to be taken seriously. There ARE plenty of examples of your grammar being readable, this however is not one of them. If English is NOT your native language then feel free to continue the conversation in German, French, Russian, Dutch or Polish.
    Oh, is little billco getting out of date?

    what i said is that those particles produced have restmass. and sicne they have restmass they are matter.

    What kind of matter? first, second and third generation particles of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    As for that first paragraph - it makes no sense to me, I really do not understand it, or how someone with your unique ability to write such confusing post's can ever hope to be taken seriously. There ARE plenty of examples of your grammar being readable, this however is not one of them. If English is NOT your native language then feel free to continue the conversation in German, French, Russian, Dutch or Polish.
    Oh, is little billco getting out of date?

    what i said is that those particles produced have restmass. and sicne they have restmass they are matter.

    What kind of matter? first, second and third generation particles of course
    Look, here is what you actually posted..

    Quote Originally Posted by zelos

    its neither it is matter but it´s energy levels are to high under normal circumstances so it decays in varius ways to decrease the energy, wich often result in normal matter
    So all I am saying is what type of matter, is it atoms of hydrogen, oxygen gold or what? - What type of matter.


    The truth is you have worked yourself into a corner from which again you will call me a senile ol git or whatever, wheras all I am asking is for further information so I can take my structured ordered view of the universe and throw it into chaos [Apologies to Lorentz].
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    i am in no corner. You seem to not understand. Btw i wont call you senile since now you are not apperently
    Matter dont have to be atoms, molecules and such. It can be a individual particle. a electron is matter. a proton is, neutron aswell. so is muon tau and so on.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter
    Because matter consists of fermions, matter must be composed of quarks and leptons. There are six types of quarks (strange, charm, top, bottom, up, and down) which combine to form hadrons, primarily baryons and mesons, through the strong interaction and are actually thought to always be confined. Among the baryons are the proton and the neutron, which further combine to form the nuclei of all elements of the periodic table. Usually these nuclei are surrounded by a cloud of electrons. A nucleus with as many electrons as protons, which is thus electrically neutral, is called an atom, otherwise it is an ion.
    this explains that it can be any of the 6 quarks, and by that any of the generation particles. Its only force particles that isnt considered matter

    its neither it is matter but it´s energy levels are to high under normal circumstances so it decays in varius ways to decrease the energy, wich often result in normal matter
    what i mean with this is that second/third generation matter/particles contain to much energy and will automaticly release it in form of other energy/particles to reach a stable energy level. Wich in mostly consist of the matter we are familiar with, netrons, electron, protons and neutrinos
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    That's a strange charm there looking up and down your post from top to bottom.

    I really cannot accept such sites as wikipaedia as being credible to the degree I require in order to alter a belief. This is not a cop out.
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    its valid enough for this
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    Thanks for the info ! Although I must say that when I read that wiki it really got me confused, I'll try to understand more, but even the names are confusing such are quarks!
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    velladaniel, ask what confused you and i will try to explain it better if i can
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    When matter tryes to decrease of energy level, does it always liberate photons? Or can it reach lower energy levels another way?
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    it can reach lower energy levels by sendig out anykind of radiation. Photonic, alpha particles, beta, positron, neutron, spontanus fission(this one is for huge relativly stable atoms) are different ways it can achive lower energy level. notice this if for "normal" matter that we are used to in everyday life. for matter if higher generation that is more uncommon and produced in particle generation they can reach a lower energy level by just ejecting anykind of particle lighter than itself
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    I get it now, but does it fabricate it or use already existing particles, and if it does, does it make new ones?

    But what if the atom liberats any of the particles you told me, doesn't it become unstable?
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