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  • Quantam Physics

    1 33.33%
  • Relativity

    0 0%
  • Disagree with both of them

    0 0%
  • They each have some quality but are both flawed

    1 33.33%
  • Don't really care, one or the other, we'll figure it out in the future

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Thread: Quantam Physics vs Relativity

  1. #1 Quantam Physics vs Relativity 
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    One of the greatest debates in physics is the quantam vs relativity debate and so far i think quantam is winning since there are so many scientists working on it and improving it. But i want to know what you think...

    i personally don't know which is the better since they are flawless individually but they dont work together. So i just want to know how many people believe in the randomness of Quantam physics and how many people believe in the power of relativity.


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    i wont vote becuase there isnt a option of both

    both worx perfect, its only relativity that cant bee quantified. QM turns to the predictible GR when the system is enlarged


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    What do you mean by quantified? I don't quite understand.
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    in quantum mechanic everything is quantified, have specefic amounts. Gravity have problems with it, i read that when they try to quantify it they get a infinite variables that is needed to be determened. but with infinite parameters it will take forever to know them all.
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    I guess that to cover ALL main choices, there also should be a count of those who agree with both. So if you want to vote for both just post it.

    Thanks Zelos for your enlightenment, and sorry for the inconvenience.
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    its okey, and i vote for both are right, relativity/qm might need some slight changes in mathematics that gives them the possibility to coexist. string theory is a atempt to do that
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    Hey maybe I should start a poll too with these options

    1+1=2

    1x1=1

    Disagree with both of them

    They each have some quality but are both flawed

    Don't really care, one or the other, we'll figure it out in the future

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    I should point out that there is a big distinction between "relativity" and "General Relativity"!!!!!!! "Relativity" usually means "Special Relativity" and at least includes it. There is ABSOLUTELY no conflict at all between quantum mechanics and special relativity. These combine flawlessly in relativistic quantum mechanics.

    There is also no conflict per say between quantum mechanics and "General Relativity". It is only that, as Zelos alluded to, that the theory of General Relativity has never been successfully quantized (quantified is the wrong word by the way). Quantization is a process by which a classical theory of mechanics can be transformed into a quantum theory by replacing the Poisson brackets with commutators (and replacing variables with operators). It just means that physics currently has two very different and unrelated ways of looking at things. There is not neccessarily anything wrong with that. It is just that since the beginning of the science of physics, seemly different and unrelated theories have slowly been unified in more comprehensive theories. So it is natural for physicists to look for a similar advance in a unified theory which explains both gravity and particles.
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  9. #8 Re: Quantam Physics vs Relativity 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaugree

    i personally don't know which is the better since they are flawless individually but they dont work together. .
    Ths is the first I've heard of this and I see no conflict arrising myself, but some twat is bound to argue with me out of a false sense of superiority versus proper understanding of either/both.

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    e, no contradiction exists.
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    Heh, there isn't really a competition between the two anymore.
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    My understanding is the both quantum mechanics and special relativity are compatible under Quantum Electrodynamics, and its only general relativity that is causing problems when taken in conjunction with quantum mechanics.
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