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    Hello. I've posted here before to get help on questions for the various tv shows we do research for. For this one, we're interested in the physics of death.

    Certainly an unusual question.* We have a situation in which someone close to our heroes is going to die of a gunshot wound.* As he dies, we want him to maintain that he won't actually cease to exist.* In other words, we need a scientific and/or rational argument for why death isn't the end of existence.* We've only been able to come up with two so far...

    1) That since matter can neither be created nor destroyed, death isn't the end, it's just a change of form.*

    2) Our molecules are constantly dying/being replaced, yet our memories and emotions persist.* Therefore they must be exist in a form other than physical matter.*

    Hope this makes sense. Appreciate any help you can provide.

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    go for option one. its the only scientifically sound option.


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    Without getting into a major philosophical quagmire, there's at least one more option: immortality through the memory of others or through our works.
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    If time can go back , you can change , and there are nexts worlds , thanks water nosfim
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonfromtv
    Hello. I've posted here before to get help on questions for the various tv shows we do research for. For this one, we're interested in the physics of death.

    Certainly an unusual question.* We have a situation in which someone close to our heroes is going to die of a gunshot wound.* As he dies, we want him to maintain that he won't actually cease to exist.* In other words, we need a scientific and/or rational argument for why death isn't the end of existence.* We've only been able to come up with two so far...

    1) That since matter can neither be created nor destroyed, death isn't the end, it's just a change of form.*

    2) Our molecules are constantly dying/being replaced, yet our memories and emotions persist.* Therefore they must be exist in a form other than physical matter.*

    Hope this makes sense. Appreciate any help you can provide.

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    You are SOL. There is no scientific basis for life after death, or even any scientific knowledge of what it means to be alive (there are medical criteria of course used to pronounce death)..

    If you pursue the line that yoiu suggest you will utterly destroy any scientific credibilty that your show may have.

    Please tell me that won't let Isles get enmeshed in any such nonsense.
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    I think it may be better to rephrase the question as "What of these kind of beliefs might a scientist hold?" Phrased that way though, you get the full range of answers as there are plenty of (credible) scientists who are also (active) members of almost any given religion.

    If the character is specifically an atheist, it's doubtful they believe that they will continue as themselves in any meaningful way. Returning to the cycles of nature or living on in memories wouldn't be out of line with such a belief though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiMaster
    I think it may be better to rephrase the question as "What of these kind of beliefs might a scientist hold?" Phrased that way though, you get the full range of answers as there are plenty of (credible) scientists who are also (active) members of almost any given religion.

    If the character is specifically an atheist, it's doubtful they believe that they will continue as themselves in any meaningful way. Returning to the cycles of nature or living on in memories wouldn't be out of line with such a belief though.
    The question was not what religious beliefs might a scientist hold. The question asked for scientific justification for life after death. Those are two completely different things.

    There is zero evidence for life after death. Thst should not be surprising, The question of life after death is not a scientific question.

    There are scientists who are militant atheists. There are scientists who are devout. There is no contradiction. There is no overlap between science and religion either.
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    To the best of my knowledge, science currently does not possess the proper tools for answering the question of incorporeal consciousness. The best I can offer is to narrow the question too either, the next adventure or, the infinite sleep.
    Perhaps the character could, in a dramatic last breath manner, mutter something about finding the unanswerable answer, or some such.
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    For your two points:

    1: Yes matter can be destroyed and created. You're thinking of mass/energy which cannot.

    2:You're right our molecules are constantly being replaced, but so are our memories. Just ask someone who suffers from senility or Alzheimer's.

    The human lifespan is constantly being increased through drugs and medical procedures and you wonder if at a certain point its no longer worth it. Better to live a full life while you're able to do the things you enjoy than to live just for the sake of being alive and not be able to do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRocket
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiMaster
    I think it may be better to rephrase the question as "What of these kind of beliefs might a scientist hold?" Phrased that way though, you get the full range of answers as there are plenty of (credible) scientists who are also (active) members of almost any given religion.

    If the character is specifically an atheist, it's doubtful they believe that they will continue as themselves in any meaningful way. Returning to the cycles of nature or living on in memories wouldn't be out of line with such a belief though.
    The question was not what religious beliefs might a scientist hold. The question asked for scientific justification for life after death. Those are two completely different things.

    There is zero evidence for life after death. Thst should not be surprising, The question of life after death is not a scientific question.

    There are scientists who are militant atheists. There are scientists who are devout. There is no contradiction. There is no overlap between science and religion either.
    Yeah, I wouldn't argue that. Maybe rewrite would be a better term than rephrase.
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