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  1. #1 Late night thinking... 
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    Thought about this late the other night...
    Took a picture of my brain storming from my whiteboard.

    http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/b...e/DSC00637.jpg

    What do you think?

    *edit* red arrows are general direction of force...


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    I forgot to add that the base of this thinking began with contemplating the similarities of structure between atoms and the solar system. Atoms have their center, the nucleus which is in a sense orbited by electrons. A solar system has a star in the center(the nucleus) and is orbited by celestial bodies(the electrons). Thought then went towards other examples of this structure and then to the idea of a stone being dropped in water. A center (nucleus) and the rings emanating from that center (the electrons).

    Late night thought, but the idea of this structure being present almost everywhere one looks captivated me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordus
    Thought about this late the other night...

    What do you think?...
    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make or, conversely, what question you're trying to ask.

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    Jordus - You seem to be clinging to the Bohr model of the atom, which is not so accurate. As this is one of the central pillars of your thinking, any conclusions you draw are likely to be correct only by accident.
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    I'm not sure what you're getting at, but the spirals remind me of the Fibonacci spiral (or phi spiral). I guess it's kind of universal, as many has found fascinating, the Golden Ratio.
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    Electrons don't spiral around the nucleus of the atom. Neils Bohr (after a similar earlier version from Rutherford) proposed this in the early 1900s, but it has since been shown to be an inaccurate model of the atom.

    You're basically doing numerology with images right now, and you're not even using accurate images for some of your variables (the electron cloud is more representative).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model
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    Yes I was using Bohr's model as an example and like you said, our current understanding of the atom is that it has more of a cloud. However, orbiting does occur in a wave like state. Just because one orbits in a perfect uninterrupted circle (solar system model) and another orbits in a more eccentric way (electron cloud) doesn't mean the structure is not fundamentally the same. There is still a center and something orbiting it.


    As to why I added in the action/reaction part... it was a late night.. But I was seeing some type of connection between this structure being seen almost everywhere without any outside force or energy involved, and the structure still being seen in cases of actions and reactions caused by the force introduced by another entity. Such as a pebble being dropped in water (center, orbital like rings, wave like motion between rings and center) or the impact crater of an asteroid.

    As to what I am trying to prove exactly... I am not sure... I just can't help but think about this...
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    I just have to add that "electron cloud" does not mean "eccentric orbit". It means that the single electron forms something more like a cloud than like a planet, even an eccentric one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiMaster
    I just have to add that "electron cloud" does not mean "eccentric orbit". It means that the single electron forms something more like a cloud than like a planet, even an eccentric one.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital
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